# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935>\
**Category:** Announcements\
**Tags:** feedback, official\
**Created:** [July 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935 "2019-07-05T16:28:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 241

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**Author:** ![Randolph\_Jackson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/randolph_jackson/32/180036_2.png) [@Randolph\_Jackson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Randolph_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4866 "2019-07-10T13:02:46Z")

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nonono keep those remove local and the party is real!

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**Author:** ![addelee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/addelee/32/509654_2.png) [@addelee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/addelee)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4867 "2019-07-10T13:03:06Z")

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> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#):
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> You guys really want to destroy this game, don’t you.

Try not to think of it like that.

This pushes moon goo up in price, pushes the price of t2 production up and minerals. Invest any isk and you’ll make a killing.

Also, pirate faction BPC’s are going to go up.

Hopefully will kill off a lot of t2 things. like who doesn’t want to fly a rifter forever.

Edit: : Look at Morphite prices. already gone up 2k per unit so you should already have made a significant profit

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**Author:** ![j0c1f3r](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/j0c1f3r/32/147312_2.png) [@j0c1f3r](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/j0c1f3r)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4868 "2019-07-10T13:03:45Z")

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Lets hope…😉

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**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4869 "2019-07-10T13:05:49Z")

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PSA: with support ticket, you can pause your subscription to not waste any omega time on this bs. This will effectively let you “unsub” faster and have some time for 6 months later when this bs is history.

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**Author:** ![AntientSphinx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/antientsphinx/32/473457_2.png) [@AntientSphinx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AntientSphinx)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4870 "2019-07-10T13:06:00Z")

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I love how it always begins with denial and rejection but than a week later we adapt like we always do. If you like the game you will stay with chat or without chat. Yes removing local will make null sec more dangerous than wormholes but so be it adapt and overcome or be the weak link and quit. In my opinion the more they remove the tools that help people analyze behavior without interaction with the game the better.

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**Author:** ![Testi\_Hyesti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/testi_hyesti/32/218935_2.png) [@Testi\_Hyesti](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Testi_Hyesti)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4871 "2019-07-10T13:06:49Z")

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srsly?  
and how long will it last? just not clear, activate the subscription now, or wait for a couple of months until this ■■■■ is turned off?

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**Author:** ![Francis\_McLean](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/francis_mclean/32/285785_2.png) [@Francis\_McLean](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Francis_McLean)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4872 "2019-07-10T13:07:07Z")

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> [@Orca\_Platypus](#):
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> PSA: with support ticket, you can pause your subscription to not waste any omega time on this bs. This will effectively let you “unsub” faster and have some time for 6 months later when this bs is history.

why not just play another game that doesn’t involve PVP if you’re such a risk averse carebear?

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**Author:** ![bucktooth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bucktooth/32/404034_2.png) [@bucktooth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bucktooth)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4873 "2019-07-10T13:07:29Z")

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All PVP players resub, all pve player unsub creating no content for pvp players who after a month unsub.

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**Author:** ![Randolph\_Jackson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/randolph_jackson/32/180036_2.png) [@Randolph\_Jackson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Randolph_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4874 "2019-07-10T13:08:32Z")

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or you finally find roaming gangs to fight instead of ganking stupid afk botting vnis

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**Author:** ![Duckslayer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duckslayer/32/172307_2.png) [@Duckslayer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duckslayer)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4875 "2019-07-10T13:08:39Z")

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roaming gangs of pvpers? THEY WILL FIGHT!

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4876 "2019-07-10T13:08:53Z")

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Woop WOOOP

subbing two accounts now 😃

THANK YOU CCP!!

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**Author:** ![BlastRep\_Forbidden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blastrep_forbidden/32/147317_2.png) [@BlastRep\_Forbidden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BlastRep_Forbidden)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4877 "2019-07-10T13:09:15Z")

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I will not login to the game during this time in objection to what CCP is doing. I hope all of you do the same. CCP has done some really stupid things through the years but this takes the cake. If this becomes a permanent I am leaving the game.

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**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4878 "2019-07-10T13:09:17Z")

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> [@Francis\_McLean](#):
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> why not just play another game that doesn’t involve PVP if you’re such a risk averse carebear?

risk-averse is the word for chickens that are subbing for this to hunt carebears - they can’t do it unless the bear is served to them for free. If it’s regular pvp they were interested in, it was always there, no need to sub for this. But no, only when nullsec is becoming 100% safe to gank, they come, and I’m the risk averse carebear?

I’ll play some real pvp game in the meantime, not pve with spectators like blopsing bears is gonna be.

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**Author:** ![AntientSphinx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/antientsphinx/32/473457_2.png) [@AntientSphinx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AntientSphinx)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4879 "2019-07-10T13:09:36Z")

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Statements of this type are stupid my friend. PVE is what drives this game PVP is a result of people doing PVE to create assets to use in PVP unless you like to turn this game into a online shop that sells ships for PVP for real money.

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**Author:** ![bucktooth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bucktooth/32/404034_2.png) [@bucktooth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bucktooth)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4880 "2019-07-10T13:09:56Z")

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On a massive alliance / coalition scale I can see more brawls because of the unknown but I don’t see how this will help the small pve/pvp backgrounds

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**Author:** ![uhnboy\_ghost](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uhnboy_ghost/32/426135_2.png) [@uhnboy\_ghost](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/uhnboy_ghost)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4881 "2019-07-10T13:10:09Z")

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unsubbed all accounts yesterday, see you when local comes back

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**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4882 "2019-07-10T13:10:28Z")

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> [@BlastRep\_Forbidden](#):
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> I will not login to the game during this time in objection to what CCP is doing. I hope all of you do the same. CCP has done some really stupid things through the years but this takes the cake. If this becomes a permanent I am leaving the game.

You can pause your sub with a ticket mate, see my PSA above.

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**Author:** ![addelee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/addelee/32/509654_2.png) [@addelee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/addelee)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4883 "2019-07-10T13:10:55Z")

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> [@AntientSphinx](#):
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> Statements of this type are stupid my friend. PVE is what drives this game PVP is a result of people doing PVE to create assets to use in PVP unless you like to turn this game into a online shop that sells ships for PVP for real money.

Exactly, so reducing pve will reduce pvp. which is what is happening,

I’ve not unsubbed so to speak. I have cancelled and I’ll plex from now on as exploration is still silly money and can do it in under 5 hours

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**Author:** ![Rainus\_Max](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rainus_max/32/444844_2.png) [@Rainus\_Max](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rainus_Max)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4884 "2019-07-10T13:12:19Z")

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So nearly 5,000 comments later and not a single repsinse from CCP to acknowledge, let alone address, any of the concerns raised (regardless if you agree or not).

Not to mention the initial annoucement right before a weekend and now go live on a Friday, it all sorta smacks of the “don’t care what you think” attitude (which as a developer they have the right to do). But CCP you’ve done this before and it went badly wrong.

13 years I’ve played (90% in null) I’ll keep playing after this and see how it pans out but if it’s a major disaster you better back it out or address any issues fast and not take your usual years to fix things

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**Author:** ![Francis\_McLean](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/francis_mclean/32/285785_2.png) [@Francis\_McLean](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Francis_McLean)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4885 "2019-07-10T13:13:35Z")

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> [@Orca\_Platypus](#):
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> > [@Francis\_McLean](#):
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> > why not just play another game that doesn’t involve PVP if you’re such a risk averse carebear?
> 
> risk-averse is the word for chickens that are subbing for this to hunt carebears - they can’t do it unless the bear is served to them for free. If it’s regular pvp they were interested in, it was always there, no need to sub for this. But no, only when nullsec is becoming 100% safe to gank, they come, and I’m the risk averse carebear?
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> I’ll play some real pvp game in the meantime, not pve with spectators like blopsing bears is gonna be.

said like a true idiot who has no idea what they’re talking about, you know that it is literally impossible to catch someone PVEing as long as they are paying attention and doing the correct things (without a blue scout) unless its a rorq in which case the super umbrella will just save them if they’re paying attention and doing the right thing.

You’ll do some real PVP like what? skirm FCs welping inconsequential t1 cruisers against another blob alliance in an arranged fight? shooting an astrahaus in buttfuck nowhere? l m a o

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