# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935>\
**Category:** Announcements\
**Tags:** feedback, official\
**Created:** [July 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935 "2019-07-05T16:28:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![vextorious](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vextorious/32/147336_2.png) [@vextorious](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/vextorious)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4927 "2019-07-10T13:43:27Z")

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Cancelled my subs. Cancel yours too! Dont log on for the duration!

This is so stupid someone needs to be fired. You just can’t get disconnected from the userbase and keep your job…

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**Author:** ![j0c1f3r](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/j0c1f3r/32/147312_2.png) [@j0c1f3r](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/j0c1f3r)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4928 "2019-07-10T13:43:45Z")

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Cool, thank you sir…

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**Author:** ![Diskordya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diskordya/32/137607_2.png) [@Diskordya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diskordya)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4929 "2019-07-10T13:44:06Z")

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Only fact that i sense with this change is the increased threat of cov ops ships.

If im not wrong no counter mechanic will be added against this feature (at least none specific one).

Almost true invisibility.

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**Author:** ![Nastasjjia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nastasjjia/32/147292_2.png) [@Nastasjjia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nastasjjia)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4930 "2019-07-10T13:45:07Z")

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LOL!!!

It’s hilarious watching all the null-bears cry!!!

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**Author:** ![Ni\_Neith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ni_neith/32/182183_2.png) [@Ni\_Neith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ni_Neith)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4931 "2019-07-10T13:45:45Z")

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You and your shitty safe care bears are getting fired. Never come back, please.

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4932 "2019-07-10T13:45:53Z")

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> [@Mega\_Face](#):
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> Drifters:  
> CCP we’re pvpers we don’t consent to forced PVE!  
> No-Local:  
> C-…CP we’re pvers we don’t consent to forced PVP!

Yep, basically.

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**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4933 "2019-07-10T13:46:28Z")

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> [@bucktooth](#):
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> To be honest I can’t wait for more TiDifests because nullblocks will be more willing to commit.

I don’t see why. Can you explain?

> [@vextorious](#):
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> Cancelled my subs. Cancel yours too! Dont log on for the duration!
> 
> This is so stupid someone needs to be fired. You just can’t get disconnected from the userbase and keep your job…

See a few posts above on how to pause your subscription to avoid paying for this bs.

> [@Diskordya](#):
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> Only fact that i sense with this change is the increased threat of cov ops ships.
> 
> If im not wrong no counter mechanic will be added against this feature (at least none specific one).
> 
> Almost true invisibility.

No, it’s not increased threat. They were always the same threat.  
What decreased is risk for covops ships. They are now much much safer. That’s why all the risk-averse chickens are resubbing, it’s no risk kills - the true “pvp” of eve.

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**Author:** ![CoRrUpTiGe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corruptige/32/178725_2.png) [@CoRrUpTiGe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CoRrUpTiGe)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4934 "2019-07-10T13:46:55Z")

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Sorry goon scum, you’re now on the block to be “chopped”

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**Author:** ![bucktooth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bucktooth/32/404034_2.png) [@bucktooth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bucktooth)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4935 "2019-07-10T13:49:01Z")

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> [@Orca\_Platypus](#):
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> > To be honest I can’t wait for more TiDifests because nullblocks will be more willing to commit.
> 
> I don’t see why. Can you explain?

If you’re ever part of a max CTA in a null block one side nearly always stands down because they are outnumbered. If they can’t see what the opposition has either no one is ever going to do anything (which would create a stale game and everyone would quit) or engagements will happen more often…

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**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4936 "2019-07-10T13:50:35Z")

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> [@CoRrUpTiGe](#):
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> Sorry goon scum, you’re now on the block to be “chopped”

Sadly goons have supercap umbrella, which is their main safety mechanic, meaning they are the least affected.

It’s all the nullsec without umbrella which gets its last defense removed.

pve was always a risk, especially with big ships, what this changes is removing all the risk from ganking, that’s why they are subbing - because they have no interest in pvp, only free killboard padding.

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4937 "2019-07-10T13:51:51Z")

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> [@Morten\_Balle\_Petersen](#):
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> Sad to see so many people leave the game because of this… I get that solo guys think its fun to not be seen before they start shooting stuff. But it might be a bit boring to go around nullsec to see all systems empty except a few that are filled with people. That will for sure be how the bigger alliances will defend members…

So what your saying is that lots of pvpers will be flying around… but they wont see anyone because they wont be there…  
which is it, people will be flying around or wont? you literally cant have it both ways.

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**Author:** ![Ni\_Neith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ni_neith/32/182183_2.png) [@Ni\_Neith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ni_Neith)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4938 "2019-07-10T13:52:48Z")

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Stop embarrassing yourself already.

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**Author:** ![CoRrUpTiGe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corruptige/32/178725_2.png) [@CoRrUpTiGe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CoRrUpTiGe)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4939 "2019-07-10T13:52:54Z")

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It wouldn’t have come to this if CCP wouldnt have nerfed supers to hell and back. The idea that “beeeg, scary things”(solo pwn-mobiles was what the panty sniffing crew call them as they argued for nerf after nerf) operated by a lone assassin if you will are actually GOOD for eve was never understood. Now instead of having ONE of me here or there, every system could contain a shark. GG HF…

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4940 "2019-07-10T13:53:45Z")

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> [@bucktooth](#):
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> If you’re ever part of a max CTA in a null block

you should have a scout cloaked off the other folks main staging, this is standard practice. Few groups that are used to such operations dont do this but in any case, nothing will have changed.

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**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4941 "2019-07-10T13:54:30Z")

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> [@Lugburz](#):
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> So what your saying is that lots of pvpers will be flying around… but they wont see anyone because they wont be there…  
> which is it, people will be flying around or wont? you literally cant have it both ways.

They are not pvpers - if they subbed only when it became safe to gank, they are just more risk-averse than krabs ever were. They are zero content to each other, because of being risk-averse, they will not engage unless it’s 100% safe to do, like engaging a krab forced into pve ship to be able to do pve.  
That’s why there will be people flying around looking for krabs, but the only chance they ever meet is by accidentally dropping on the same bear at the same time, thinking the other side is the response, and running away in fear from “response” like they usually do.

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4942 "2019-07-10T13:54:52Z")

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> [@Ni\_Neith](#):
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> Stop embarrassing yourself already.

srsly take this advice mate.

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**Author:** ![Raven\_Annages](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raven_annages/32/217050_2.png) [@Raven\_Annages](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raven_Annages)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4943 "2019-07-10T13:55:29Z")

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Great! Just keep it permanent (One of the major tactical elements in space combat is the inabillity to see opponents until they are in sensor range)

Also CCPlease add nebulas in which one can hide fleets and stuff.

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**Author:** ![bucktooth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bucktooth/32/404034_2.png) [@bucktooth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bucktooth)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4944 "2019-07-10T13:55:40Z")

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Not if you could now just put your dread bomb in a deepsafe rather than having it docked and no one would ever know 😉

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4945 "2019-07-10T13:56:45Z")

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scouts usually arrive in system long before any movement but i like your style of thinking 😃

SEE, its all getting more interesting already!!

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**Author:** ![Pikk\_Ax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pikk_ax/32/281921_2.png) [@Pikk\_Ax](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pikk_Ax)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4946 "2019-07-10T13:57:13Z")

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I love the “I’m gonna unsub crowd”.  
Do you really think that hasn’t been calculated?  
“you don’t know what you’re doing”  
They’ve created a game where thousands upon thousands of people have poured countless hours of their lives and imaginations.  
I don’t know where this is going but the ride has been fun so far.  
I pity your small minds and short sight.  
Get out of your rut and adapt.

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