# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935 "2019-07-05T16:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 247
**Author:** ![6eCeH0K\_Kaai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/6eceh0k_kaai/32/181135_2.png) [@6eCeH0K\_Kaai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/6eCeH0K_Kaai)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4987 "2019-07-10T14:24:42Z")
Holy molly… ---
**Author:** ![Cassandra\_Frazier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cassandra_frazier/32/414927_2.png) [@Cassandra\_Frazier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cassandra_Frazier)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4988 "2019-07-10T14:26:47Z")
> Implying gangs use highsec ---
**Author:** ![MrsDonttalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mrsdonttalk/32/147361_2.png) [@MrsDonttalk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MrsDonttalk)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4989 "2019-07-10T14:28:38Z")
While your at it, stop Asset Safety and warp to zero. Asset safety, what is this, WoW? ---
**Author:** ![bucktooth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bucktooth/32/404034_2.png) [@bucktooth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bucktooth)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4990 "2019-07-10T14:29:41Z")
Remove the dock button. This is online and not single player. Docking is like using the pause button. (Sorry NC) ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4991 "2019-07-10T14:30:36Z")
gank != gang. Two different words mate. And yes, everyone who’s subbing for this belongs in a hisec, because he’s only subbing for safe ganks, assuming he was unsubbed when ganks were not 100% safe, thus generating less content than the least of krabs who actually undocked. What makes you think that trash will generaet any content, when he’s so risk averse he only subs when ganking is made safe? What will he do when it ends and we’re back to 99% safe ganking, will he unsub again? ---
**Author:** ![Skilled\_Bitch\_Midumulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skilled_bitch_midumulf/32/146897_2.png) [@Skilled\_Bitch\_Midumulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skilled_Bitch_Midumulf)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4992 "2019-07-10T14:31:31Z")
no killboard would be a good start. i sign this. ---
**Author:** ![Devoros\_Vyndiver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/devoros_vyndiver/32/168959_2.png) [@Devoros\_Vyndiver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Devoros_Vyndiver)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4993 "2019-07-10T14:32:02Z")
So, can’t say I’m totally thrilled about this. My pvp side is kind of excited, but my pve side is not happy about this at all. If I wanted WH style gameplay, I’d go live in that part of space. I’m willing to give this a chance and see how things go. But one thing is for sure, R.I.P. my wallet for however long this lasts. Doesn’t look like I’ll be doing much mining or ratting for a while ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Balrus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balrus/32/146143_2.png) [@Balrus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balrus)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4994 "2019-07-10T14:33:38Z")
■■■■ all to do in high sec, I build capitals and ships for the guys to PVP in and rat when I need a break. Hard to do that in high sec. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4995 "2019-07-10T14:34:16Z")
What is happening to NPC null, does this apply to them too? I am assuming all nullsec applies to NPC nullsec too. ---
**Author:** ![bucktooth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bucktooth/32/404034_2.png) [@bucktooth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bucktooth)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4996 "2019-07-10T14:35:37Z")
PVEers - Too much risk I will stop. PVPers - Far less risk, im going to do more. = more pvpers, no pveers Seems like the pvpers in this thread are PVE hunters and not looking for pvp vs pvp - so are happy. In the end the only one who will seemingly be left are those who want pvp vs pvp. ---
**Author:** ![Mega\_Face](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mega_face/32/359765_2.png) [@Mega\_Face](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mega_Face)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4997 "2019-07-10T14:35:59Z")
I like how all this could’ve been avoided if CCP just added a total player count to local instead of portraits/player info. Friend or Foe would just show up as a number, that way bears can feel relatively safe and gankers could feel like they a chance to catch something without alerting every krab within a 20 system distance the minute they jump into local. ---
**Author:** ![Stevens](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stevens/32/186556_2.png) [@Stevens](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stevens)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4998 "2019-07-10T14:37:54Z")
Asset safety exists to deal with people who take breaks from games to not lose all their stuff. Also stations always had some level of asset safety before which is why citadels have them now. We don’t need every wormhole mechanic in nullsec. ---
**Author:** ![Xelios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xelios/32/192236_2.png) [@Xelios](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xelios)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/4999 "2019-07-10T14:38:40Z")
There was a dev blog from 2004 talking about exactly that. They were going to put local in “delayed mode” as they call it now but the total number of characters in system would still show up in the local tab. Here it is: > **[Local chat and pilots in space map information | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/article/local-chat-and-pilots-in-space-map-information)** > > I wrote up drafts for the system scanning and we almost have ready the log-on traps/log-off escape design revision. They are now up for internal review, I'll then publish them here for your review shortly. This should allow you to do full system... ---
**Author:** ![Chupa-Chups\_Haginen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chupa-chups_haginen/32/265908_2.png) [@Chupa-Chups\_Haginen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chupa-Chups_Haginen)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5000 "2019-07-10T14:40:17Z")
CCP workers are you completely crazy? Nullsec is not WH You will lose a lot of people and money. Do not go crazy, do not damage an established system ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5001 "2019-07-10T14:42:08Z")
> [@Xelios](#): > > total number of characters in system would still show up in the local tab. That is honestly even worse - still free intel for ganktards entering system, while locals cannot identify if that’s a ganktard or just somebody logging in - totally one sided 100% accurate intel indicator which I’m being told is bad. ---
**Author:** ![cpu939](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cpu939/32/515586_2.png) [@cpu939](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/cpu939)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5002 "2019-07-10T14:44:27Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > > [@Xelios](#): > > > > total number of characters in system would still show up in the local tab. > > That is honestly even worse - still free intel for ganktards entering system, while locals cannot identify if that’s a ganktard or just somebody logging in - totally one sided 100% accurate intel indicator which I’m being told is bad. i agree it is 100% free intel, that shouldn’t be. ---
**Author:** ![Nastasjjia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nastasjjia/32/147292_2.png) [@Nastasjjia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nastasjjia)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5003 "2019-07-10T14:45:44Z")
For all the null-bears now flooding recruit chat and running to high-sec… I’d like to take this moment and remind you: Do you have your mining permit? ---
**Author:** ![Skilled\_Bitch\_Midumulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skilled_bitch_midumulf/32/146897_2.png) [@Skilled\_Bitch\_Midumulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skilled_Bitch_Midumulf)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5004 "2019-07-10T14:47:32Z")
you got a recruit permit? ---
**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5005 "2019-07-10T14:48:14Z")
Flagged for off topic , another CODE desperate recruit attempt. ---
**Author:** ![Hairdresser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hairdresser/32/273636_2.png) [@Hairdresser](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hairdresser)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5006 "2019-07-10T14:48:32Z")
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