# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935 "2019-07-05T16:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 253
**Author:** ![Pantela\_von\_Neusatz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pantela_von_neusatz/32/146814_2.png) [@Pantela\_von\_Neusatz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pantela_von_Neusatz)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5108 "2019-07-10T16:35:56Z")
When money stops to flow in a lot of things change. EA changed SW Battlefront 2 mechanics because of drop in sales and boycot. And its big EA, what do you think will happend to smaller developer like CCP. ---
**Author:** ![Holy\_Shizznit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/holy_shizznit/32/409978_2.png) [@Holy\_Shizznit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Holy_Shizznit)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5109 "2019-07-10T16:37:42Z")
Its hard to say… they are human after all… unpredictable… ---
**Author:** ![Pantela\_von\_Neusatz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pantela_von_neusatz/32/146814_2.png) [@Pantela\_von\_Neusatz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pantela_von_Neusatz)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5111 "2019-07-10T16:42:23Z")
So you think that PvP is when group of PvP fitted ships attack PvE fitted carrier without chance for defending… Or you are not competent enough to catch someone unless game literally puts a sitting duck in asteroid belt or anomaly. Go to WH space if you want to have “more fun”, or learn to fight. ---
**Author:** ![Stevens](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stevens/32/186556_2.png) [@Stevens](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stevens)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5112 "2019-07-10T16:44:00Z")
That is what I am saying. ---
**Author:** ![Ic3man1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ic3man1/32/147406_2.png) [@Ic3man1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ic3man1)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5113 "2019-07-10T16:46:00Z")
i have ran wh if they whant to make it like a wh with no local at least bring some more $$$ in to null sec also more stuff to shoot like ppl that rat ---
**Author:** ![Pantela\_von\_Neusatz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pantela_von_neusatz/32/146814_2.png) [@Pantela\_von\_Neusatz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pantela_von_Neusatz)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5114 "2019-07-10T16:48:08Z")
C’mon they are making new updates and still work on game for their pleasure or because they like fans and players. They do it because of money. Simple as that. I can understand their logic in some far placed part of my mind but its stupid. I bet they are thinking like" Ok if null is not safe at all now so much more ships will be destroyed and there will not be not nearly enough minerals to replenish the losses, prices will go up, players will not make isk by ratting or mining in null so they will buy plex and sell it to have some isk for spending.’’ ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5115 "2019-07-10T16:48:33Z")
PvP fit it, mines capable of pvp and pve, thats the way its built. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5116 "2019-07-10T16:49:15Z")
class 1 and class 2 sleeper sites arent really worth a lot, c3’s are ok but again, i digress as clearly you have never ran wh sites. ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Rollin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abe_rollin/32/272864_2.png) [@Abe\_Rollin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abe_Rollin)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5117 "2019-07-10T16:53:27Z")
A regular pattern of D-scan activation becomes a signifier of a bot in action. Add a random number to the pattern to avoid looking like a bot, If the random number confines the activation to a tight time range this would also signify a bot. Reproduce how a human activates D-scan & every so often, like human players, you will get caught out. CCP = win/win ---
**Author:** ![Katie\_Pickle\_Tickler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katie_pickle_tickler/32/150796_2.png) [@Katie\_Pickle\_Tickler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katie_Pickle_Tickler)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5118 "2019-07-10T16:53:59Z")
you can petition to get your remainng game time refunded back to you ---
**Author:** ![Stevens](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stevens/32/186556_2.png) [@Stevens](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stevens)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5119 "2019-07-10T16:55:36Z")
What a great mechanic to add, if I want to PVE in nullsec I need to press V every second to protect myself. ---
**Author:** ![Xelios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xelios/32/192236_2.png) [@Xelios](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xelios)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5120 "2019-07-10T16:56:29Z")
Don’t bother, tacklers will be flying covops ships. ---
**Author:** ![Drake\_Razgriz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drake_razgriz/32/311357_2.png) [@Drake\_Razgriz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drake_Razgriz)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5121 "2019-07-10T16:56:44Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/6/f6b97a89d3590e06a8430aa6730ffab5160781d4.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5122 "2019-07-10T16:56:57Z")
> [@Lugburz](#): > > you know people got on just mining before and in every other place, wtf is it you types of players want extra extra safety in the most dangerous area of space? Local is not extra safety, all extra safety (bubbles and gravimetric sigs) was already removed from miners. It’s ganktards who are getting 100% safe ganks, mining with local was never safe. > [@Lugburz](#): > > why dont you mind with a bubble and a cyno inhib up already? Because neither of those stop covert cynos. > [@Lugburz](#): > > why dont you mine in a pipe system with scouts out? Because cloaky campers are already in. > [@Lugburz](#): > > there are so many ways to ensure extra safety net but local chat is not one that is needed or particularly good for the game at this point. It is the last one, however good or bad it is, point of risk for the ganktards - now there’s none, ganking in null is as safe as in hisec. > [@Lugburz](#): > > Its players such as yourself that is leading to stagnation in eve, you make it boring by trying to make it super safe - its supposed to be a game of wits, not tics. This change makes it super safe for ganktards - which is why it is a bad change. ---
**Author:** ![Pantela\_von\_Neusatz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pantela_von_neusatz/32/146814_2.png) [@Pantela\_von\_Neusatz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pantela_von_Neusatz)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5123 "2019-07-10T16:58:12Z")
Bro your accaunt is from 2011 and you have recorded 3 loses on Kill board and nothing else. People should be afraid of whom, You… Give me a break. There are only 2 explanations one is that this is not your main (that i doubt) or that you live in high sec and havent pvped for 8 years almost. ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Rollin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abe_rollin/32/272864_2.png) [@Abe\_Rollin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abe_Rollin)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5124 "2019-07-10T16:59:06Z")
I know - Maybe they could add something to the game and call it “ECM”, if the miner is tackled they would have a way to “jam” the tackler that would “break” the target lock and get away. I can’t see it being introduced though, as it would cause to many problems with carrier fighters being jammed out & it would break the 1v1 abyssal combat zone. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5125 "2019-07-10T16:59:13Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > Local is not extra safety, all extra safety (bubbles and gravimetric sigs) was already removed from miners. i stopped reading there, your clearly full of ■■■■ and really REALLY dont understand even the basics, tbvh im pretty sure now you probably havent even played for years. Hint for your plebian mind to comprehend; neither of those things have been removed. ---
**Author:** ![Tau\_Phoenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tau_phoenix/32/440375_2.png) [@Tau\_Phoenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tau_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5126 "2019-07-10T17:01:20Z")
Well, this announcement has certainly stimulated the community’s interest. Looks like it’s time to surf the wave of change 🏄‍♂️ or drown crying 😭 ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Stoffel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lance_stoffel/32/145832_2.png) [@Lance\_Stoffel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lance_Stoffel)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5127 "2019-07-10T17:02:39Z")
But all your targets just unsubbed, who’s gunna do anything without a massive guard now? We’re generally short on people as it is, this just makes it harder. Good luck hunting targets that don’t exist. You’ll get bored soon enough. Lol ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5128 "2019-07-10T17:02:52Z")
> [@Lugburz](#): > > i stopped reading there, your clearly full of ■■■■ and really REALLY dont understand even the basics, tbvh im pretty sure now you probably havent even played for years. When your hisec opinion will be necessary we’ll ask you. For now, shoo. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=252) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=254)