# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935 "2019-07-05T16:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 264
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5329 "2019-07-10T19:42:24Z")
> [@Ms\_Steak](#): > > And raging on forums will attract even more attention for fun and salt. It’s a forum alt. The whole point of having one is I can rage and nobody of the trashes can find me. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5330 "2019-07-10T19:43:59Z")
> [@Ni\_Neith](#): > > Plenty of sane people who undock their ratting ships in wh space without local Where suddenly 50 bombers or 100 dreads cyno in on them, right? Just as the ‘If I wanted to live in WHs, I’d live in WHs’ group is wrong to equate losing local with living in a wormhole, the ‘wormholers do it fine’ group is making the same mistake. ---
**Author:** ![Stevens](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stevens/32/186556_2.png) [@Stevens](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stevens)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5331 "2019-07-10T19:44:45Z")
> [@Giddy\_McFee](#): > > You will still have intel channels no, perhaps people need to take more notice of them. just dock everything up until yur sure they are clear > [@Ni\_Neith](#): > > You still have gates where you can put your cloaky eyes one. No local does not prevent you from collecting intel, stop bullshitting. So we can’t be upset that CCP is making us put in more effort to secure our space, so small gang hunters who claim to want good fights can gank people. Anyone roaming TEST space wanting a good fight is lying because all they are going to get is dropped by caps/supers. They are roaming for free shiny kills. > [@Kavah](#): > > I like how people come on here and complain about this nullsec local comms blackout as if this is an entirely new feature to the game as a whole. Wormhole space already operates like this. If you have seen wormholers they have some of the most expensive ratting and PvP ships for their ship size. If you don’t enjoy not having local chat you now have a reason to live in Low Sec and give it some life. You also don’t have much reason to not just move to Wormhole space. This null sec blackout allows other pieces of space to become more viable and will probably help spread the number of players in all of K space. It is amusing that you say this because it goes with my point elsewhere of with this change wormhole space has become safer than nullsec. W-Space is missing cynos and static gates which means they actually have a better ability to protect themselves than nullsec does. ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Widow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_widow/32/268271_2.png) [@Black\_Widow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Widow)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5332 "2019-07-10T19:44:45Z")
any one rember when all the celebs said if trump wins im moving ? would love to see how many people actually unsub ---
**Author:** ![Kavah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kavah/32/417029_2.png) [@Kavah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kavah)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5333 "2019-07-10T19:44:51Z")
No. When suddenly a Leshak fleet lands on your 8 ratting nestors. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5334 "2019-07-10T19:45:37Z")
> [@Redart](#): > > I can see now why he’s using an alt. I would camp the hell out of this guy just for the salt if he was using anything attached to his real toon. Yeah, basement dwellers who literally got nothing better to waste their time and money on would do that. > [@Redart](#): > > Also the free killmails, because he’s made it’s obvious he doesn’t know how to defend. There is no defense - this is exactly why all the basement dwellers are so excited about, perspective of a free kill in nullsec, which is made safe for them. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5335 "2019-07-10T19:45:51Z")
Yeah, but those showed up on d-scan. The cyno ship didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5336 "2019-07-10T19:46:10Z")
@CCP_Falcon important milestone: this thread exceeded number of posts of 2 year-old “Main AFK cloaky thread” thread in only 5 days!!! 🥂 🥳 ---
**Author:** ![Ni\_Neith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ni_neith/32/182183_2.png) [@Ni\_Neith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ni_Neith)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5337 "2019-07-10T19:46:41Z")
And this is exactly the point, turdcrabs, nullsec shouldn’t be ffing SAFE. The only way we got ratting supers so far was by using spies! ---
**Author:** ![Kavah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kavah/32/417029_2.png) [@Kavah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kavah)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5338 "2019-07-10T19:47:27Z")
From experience of killing ratters in WH space they can’t respond fast enough to the 6+ Sabres that are hyperspatial rigged. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5339 "2019-07-10T19:47:35Z")
> [@Kavah](#): > > No. > When suddenly a Leshak fleet lands on your 8 ratting nestors. No. Because you would have dscan warning and it’s not like Leshaks are particularly fast at warping. cyno will be on you from cloak to dreadbomb in 3 seconds, no warning. ---
**Author:** ![Johnno\_Ormand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/johnno_ormand/32/146076_2.png) [@Johnno\_Ormand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Johnno_Ormand)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5340 "2019-07-10T19:48:10Z")
I strongly encourage all krabs to dock up for the duration of this blackout to protest against these changes. Don’t give the pvp crowd easy kills!!! ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5341 "2019-07-10T19:48:37Z")
So you’re trotting out a comparison you know to be wrong in order to make a completely different point? That makes about as much sense as most of the other things you’ve said. > [@Kavah](#): > > From experience of killing ratters in WH space they can’t respond fast enough to the 6+ Sabres that are hyperspatial rigged. How’d the Sabres get in? Sounds like someone didn’t have ears on the hole. ---
**Author:** ![Kavah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kavah/32/417029_2.png) [@Kavah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kavah)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5342 "2019-07-10T19:48:49Z")
I’m assuming you’re saying that you’re ratting in like a Super Carrier or normal Carrier? If so you shouldn’t even be ratting without FAXes on standby. So like just don’t be bad at the game lol. ---
**Author:** ![Abu\_Tarynnia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abu_tarynnia/32/145190_2.png) [@Abu\_Tarynnia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abu_Tarynnia)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5343 "2019-07-10T19:49:15Z")
> [@Ni\_Neith](#): > > You still have gates where you can put your cloaky eyes one. No local does not prevent you from collecting intel, stop bullshitting. You know Corps like Volta? They live in WHs and typically role their WH-Exits until their scout (and he has only to do some DSCan) Reports of possible targets. Then they come and rain havoc. So what does the scout at the gate gives you as info ? Nothing passed. Great. Do you think before you poste or is the lonly brain-cell too busy to fit ships for Miners ganking ? ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5344 "2019-07-10T19:49:48Z")
> [@Ni\_Neith](#): > > And this is exactly the point, turdcrabs, nullsec shouldn’t be ffing SAFE. Exactly the point. It shouldn’t be safe for ganktards either, but with this, it is. It is even with local, until we get decloaking mechanics, you can literally walk away from your PC in space and be safe, if it’s not total safety, what is it? REMOVE SAFETY. > [@Ni\_Neith](#): > > The only way we got ratting supers so far was by using spies! What you actually said there is “I’m bad at this game”. Better people do it just fine. ---
**Author:** ![Ni\_Neith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ni_neith/32/182183_2.png) [@Ni\_Neith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ni_Neith)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5345 "2019-07-10T19:50:59Z")
Krabturd, so basically you and your kind are complaining here that you are not getting an automated ALARM about a neutral while you are playing with your little dick and watching furry porn. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5346 "2019-07-10T19:51:50Z")
Here’s the fun bit: as I linked above, Mittens is out there saying ‘yeah, we like this, let’s give it a try’. Olmeca Gold, otoh, is taking to reddit to complain about how this will completely tank hunting in the long run. ---
**Author:** ![Redart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/redart/32/189641_2.png) [@Redart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Redart)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5347 "2019-07-10T19:52:17Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > until we get decloaking mechanics, you can literally walk away from your PC in space and be safe, if it’s not total safety, what is it? REMOVE SAFETY. As much as I’ve argued with you in this thread, I actually agree with you here completely. I’m really hoping cloak is going to factored into the rumored sov changes along with local. ---
**Author:** ![Scorp\_Majors](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scorp_majors/32/123732_2.png) [@Scorp\_Majors](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scorp_Majors)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5348 "2019-07-10T19:53:10Z")
Now I know what to do with all those VNI’s that are no longer worth anything… I can use them as bait in a combat anomaly and when the ganktards come flocking, a crew will undock and feast until the ganktards have no ships left… BWAHAHAHA [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=263) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=265)