# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935 "2019-07-05T16:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 265
**Author:** ![Ni\_Neith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ni_neith/32/182183_2.png) [@Ni\_Neith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ni_Neith)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5349 "2019-07-10T19:53:36Z")
Nah, I am saying you are a krabturd with turd for brains. We have already established that you have no clue about PVP yet alone catching naturally stabbed capitals in nullsec. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5350 "2019-07-10T19:53:50Z")
> [@Kavah](#): > > I’m assuming you’re saying that you’re ratting in like a Super Carrier or normal Carrier? If so you shouldn’t even be ratting without FAXes on standby. So like just don’t be bad at the game lol. We have cynojammed systems, because we don’t have supercap umbrella. This means no FAX on cyno, this means no dreadbomb as well. And of course no supercarriers either. Enough blocs around are -10 to us, thus only regular caps. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5351 "2019-07-10T19:54:37Z")
> [@Redart](#): > > I’m really hoping cloak is going to factored into the rumored sov changes along with local. So far, the ‘rumored’ sov changes are just that: completely unfounded rumors. CCP’s said more than a few times that they’re not looking to re-redo sov right now, and have other parts of the game to focus on. Ideally, they’ll fix FW, which has literally gotten no love since it went in 11 years ago. Until something’s actually _on_ the updates page, don’t even bother hoping, it’s not happening. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5352 "2019-07-10T19:54:51Z")
> [@Ni\_Neith](#): > > Nah, I am saying you are a krabturd with turd for brains. We have already established that you have no clue about PVP yet alone catching naturally stabbed capitals in nullsec. calls others names. can’t use a sabre. 40 IQ wall is standing tall for ganktards… ---
**Author:** ![LogiCFX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/logicfx/32/147462_2.png) [@LogiCFX](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LogiCFX)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5353 "2019-07-10T19:55:48Z")
This is great for the predators. Bad for the hunted. I look forward to logging in this weekend to hunt all those nullsec bears. ---
**Author:** ![Ni\_Neith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ni_neith/32/182183_2.png) [@Ni\_Neith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ni_Neith)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5354 "2019-07-10T19:55:57Z")
Turdbrains without any PVP experience who relies on automated ALARM to play this game in 100% safety teaches me how to use a sabre…this is gold. ---
**Author:** ![Kavah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kavah/32/417029_2.png) [@Kavah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kavah)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5355 "2019-07-10T19:58:06Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > We have cynojammed systems, because we don’t have supercap umbrella. This means no FAX on cyno, this means no dreadbomb as well. > And of course no supercarriers either. Enough blocs around are -10 to us, thus only regular caps. So what you’re saying is that you’re a small group who cynojams systems for safety and are now upset that people bring in covert cynos without your knowledge which is a counter to your safety in a Null security space in a PvP game? Sounds like you should move to Low Sec until you can grow larger. Or just get better. ---
**Author:** ![Abu\_Tarynnia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abu_tarynnia/32/145190_2.png) [@Abu\_Tarynnia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abu_Tarynnia)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5356 "2019-07-10T19:59:10Z")
> [@Ni\_Neith](#): > > Turdbrains without any PVP experience who relies on automated ALARM to play this game in 100% safety teaches me how to use a sabre…this is gold. but he’s Right … you are the turdbrain 🙂 You complain that people work together to make the NS NOT safe for you. THAT’S the salt in here 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5357 "2019-07-10T19:59:48Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Here’s the fun bit: as I linked above, Mittens is out there saying ‘yeah, we like this, let’s give it a try’. Olmeca Gold, otoh, is taking to reddit to complain about how this will completely tank hunting in the long run. Mittens wants to keep his multi-dollar media empire, or, jokes aside, the ISK stream, so he couldn’t have said anything else. Olmeca Gold literally has nothing but ego, and calls for more capitals, because all he cares about is “muh whaling” - or at least so he told me when I talked to him before CSM election farce (name me a player who couldn’t have predicted who would be “elected” - I only missed mine by snort’s fail). ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Rollin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abe_rollin/32/272864_2.png) [@Abe\_Rollin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abe_Rollin)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5358 "2019-07-10T20:02:16Z")
Or when freighters full of ravens creep into a wormhole unseen and explode the first keepstar in wormhole space. I also remember after, the chants of “no local” made at fanfest by leaders of certain null-Sec alliances - be careful what you wish for ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5359 "2019-07-10T20:03:24Z")
> [@Kavah](#): > > So what you’re saying is that you’re a small group who cynojams systems for safety and are now upset that people bring in covert cynos without your knowledge which is a counter to your safety in a Null security space in a PvP game? Sounds like you should move to Low Sec until you can grow larger. Or just get better. Even if we uncynojam systems, and put faxes on, they will just get dreadbombed. There is no safety in nullsec even with local. What I’m saying is covert cynos will completely eradicate all subcap life, and the remaining caps would either be an easy bloc dreadbomb practice, or couldn’t get to cynojammed system - either way non-blocs are skrewed, no matter how good they are. ---
**Author:** ![Stevens](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stevens/32/186556_2.png) [@Stevens](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stevens)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5360 "2019-07-10T20:04:16Z")
You say automated alarm, I say alliance mate informing us. But go ahead and assume how it works. ---
**Author:** ![Ni\_Neith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ni_neith/32/182183_2.png) [@Ni\_Neith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ni_Neith)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5361 "2019-07-10T20:04:18Z")
It wasn’t the first keepstar…but yeah…the hypocrisy of the nullbears is just staggering > [@Stevens](#): > > You say automated alarm, I say alliance mate informing us. But go ahead and assume how it works. Everyone knows how it works. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5362 "2019-07-10T20:05:15Z")
> [@Abe\_Rollin](#): > > I also remember after, the chants of “no local” made at fanfest by leaders of certain null-Sec alliances - be careful what you wish for Because those certain nullsec alliances have supercap umbrellas for safety, they can afford to not care about local. What about 27 null regions without umbrella coverage? ---
**Author:** ![Stevens](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stevens/32/186556_2.png) [@Stevens](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stevens)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5363 "2019-07-10T20:06:40Z")
As a head admin for TEST I can tell you how it works, and it is not automated beyond a player posting into our channels that alerts the rest of us. ---
**Author:** ![Kavah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kavah/32/417029_2.png) [@Kavah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kavah)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5364 "2019-07-10T20:06:50Z")
lol again, just move to low sec dude. Also the chances of getting Blopsed on isn’t as high as you think. Just play the game and don’t fly what you can’t afford to lose. If you need to make Isk how about you find new ways to do so instead of just carrier ratting. There’s plenty of different ventures in this game that you could branch out to. How about adapt. ---
**Author:** ![Sana\_Yamada](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sana_yamada/32/377691_2.png) [@Sana\_Yamada](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sana_Yamada)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5365 "2019-07-10T20:07:56Z")
We wont be there and you hear space crickets ---
**Author:** ![Ni\_Neith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ni_neith/32/182183_2.png) [@Ni\_Neith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ni_Neith)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5366 "2019-07-10T20:09:37Z")
instead of being docked up every time a neutral is 10 jumps away…wow, we are so gonna miss you ---
**Author:** ![Sana\_Yamada](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sana_yamada/32/377691_2.png) [@Sana\_Yamada](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sana_Yamada)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5367 "2019-07-10T20:13:35Z")
I have better things to do like bait trap the so called hunters, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZJXWg1tMgA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZJXWg1tMgA) ---
**Author:** ![Smertyukovitch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/smertyukovitch/32/147465_2.png) [@Smertyukovitch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Smertyukovitch)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5368 "2019-07-10T20:17:34Z")
This reminds me so much of my own analysis of the introduction of jump fatigue. In fact the whole thread does. Same division between “cry me a river” and “please no, you’re ruining my game!”. Just as it was back then the whole thing makes me just sad. Nothing of value is being introduced, small organisations are getting screwed, a parade of people in need of mental help is happening. The game needs fundamental changes and what it gets is just a new level of old things being messed up making the envelope of viable gameplay even smaller. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=264) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=266)