# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935 "2019-07-05T16:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 277
**Author:** ![Tace\_Orlenard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tace_orlenard/32/147523_2.png) [@Tace\_Orlenard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tace_Orlenard)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5589 "2019-07-11T01:09:26Z")
Eve is a game where no matter where you are, you should only be safe when docked. No matter what security space you’re in, High, low, null, wh… Period. For a long time, null sec groups have effectively turned themselves into afk krab hordes who will shamelessly drop titans and supers on little 5-10 man fleets because they are so undeniably content-averse, risk-averse wussies. Not all, but the majority I feel. If a fight isn’t going to be a faceroll, they stay docked. If they can’t cyno a mack truck to kill an ant, they run. If you are threatening to quit, usub 5, 10, 15 accounts, good. We need less people who play this game just to login and run sites or shoot rocks. We need more people who will actually play with others, instead of people who multibox their own 20 man mining fleet, then cry themselves to sleep while watching “Best of Chumlee” on youtube because that’s what sad depressed people watch on youtube. Good riddance. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 1:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5590 "2019-07-11T01:10:05Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > You _can_ make it dangerous, you’re just choosing not to because instead of fitting modules to defend yourself, you’re just fitting for maximum yield. No, I can’t, you’re just dumb as wood, and pretend to not understand that even if I fit NO YIELD at all, 40k alpha would still crunch just as good. I do not approve nullsec being made 100% safe for people not intellectually fit to serve hamburgers - like you. ---
**Author:** ![Kojee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kojee/32/458662_2.png) [@Kojee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kojee)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5591 "2019-07-11T01:11:45Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > I do not approve nullsec being made 100% safe for people not intellectually fit to serve hamburgers - like you. I find it ironic how you’re actually talking about yourself. It’s real damn easy to put scouts on gates and hit dscan. Get good. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5592 "2019-07-11T01:12:30Z")
> [@Tace\_Orlenard](#): > > content-averse, risk-averse wussies You just described ganktards who would run from every response crying like babies about “blobbing” and “counters”. If you are threatening to sub only when ganking is being made 100% safe, then you are worse than any krab, chicken. ---
**Author:** ![Jayden\_Thomas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayden_thomas/32/407936_2.png) [@Jayden\_Thomas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayden_Thomas)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5593 "2019-07-11T01:13:17Z")
I like this. A lot. ---
**Author:** ![Kojee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kojee/32/458662_2.png) [@Kojee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kojee)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5594 "2019-07-11T01:14:17Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > If you are threatening to sub only when ganking is being made 100% safe, then you are worse than any krab, chicken. You are implying unsub because your shitty version of “content” ISN’T 100% safe. ---
**Author:** ![Tace\_Orlenard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tace_orlenard/32/147523_2.png) [@Tace\_Orlenard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tace_Orlenard)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5595 "2019-07-11T01:14:38Z")
Keep crying, null sec is NULL security. If you feel safe there, then something’s wrong. Undock and die a little. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 1:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5596 "2019-07-11T01:15:16Z")
> [@Kojee](#): > > I find it ironic how you’re actually talking about yourself. It’s real damn easy to put scouts on gates and hit dscan. Get good. How more stupid can you get? You’ve been educated by me 2 times already and still can’t sum up two points. Are you a dog, by any chance, or mentally handicapped? 3500 jumps in 24 hours from passing light blues make it impossible to scout gates. Not to mention only a bot could have 23/7 gatecamp at full attention, and we don’t bot. dscan does not catch the one and only threat that is making nullsec too easy for ganktards - cyno stealth bomber. Make it so you can’t cloak if you have cyno equipped, we’ll talk. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5597 "2019-07-11T01:16:31Z")
> [@Tace\_Orlenard](#): > > If you feel safe there, then something’s wrong. ganktard can literally leave the game running and walk off from his PC for the whole day, and be safe. Nullsec was never safe for the krab, but it is being made 100% safe for the ganktard. Remove safety from all please. ---
**Author:** ![Tace\_Orlenard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tace_orlenard/32/147523_2.png) [@Tace\_Orlenard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tace_Orlenard)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5598 "2019-07-11T01:17:40Z")
You call me a ganktard, I call you a poddedtard. Come back at me with a real argument. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5599 "2019-07-11T01:18:53Z")
> [@Kojee](#): > > You are implying unsub because your shitty version of “content” ISN’T 100% safe. I am implying that everyone subbing for blackout are lame chickens, who, despite pvp being readily available to them in eve, unsubbed from it, and only subbed back when CCP dangled free uncounterable 100% safe kills in front of them. And yes, krabbing in eve was never safe in any space, it just took a bit over 40 IQ to catch people - apparently neither you nor them have that much, proved by how slow you are on the uptake in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Kojee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kojee/32/458662_2.png) [@Kojee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kojee)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 1:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5600 "2019-07-11T01:19:59Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > 3500 jumps in 24 hours from passing light blues Get them to help your sorry ass? Fix your overview? Bottom line, you’re a ■■■■■■■ terrible scout if this is a problem. > [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > only a bot could have 23/7 gatecamp You don’t need it scouted 23/7 you dumb ■■■■ - only scouted when you’re playing. Which, with what I assume is one of the 30 accounts you plex for, is really just an economies of scale problem (none at all). > [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > cyno stealth bomber That’s what a scout is for. You can easily see gate flash and the dude uncloak/cloak when getting into system. Easy peezy. > [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > Make it so you can’t cloak if you have cyno equipped, we’ll talk. So… you need to make it MORE safe for you to play? I’m glad you’re leaving. Can I have your stuff? ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 1:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5601 "2019-07-11T01:21:36Z")
It’s better you just leave and stop talking about it. the game has been too easy for too long. From a role players perspective I’m loving this, they have tied in game events to mechanic changes which is a great because it makes us part of the story. This is a great new way to manage a game I’m really on the edge of my seat here with all the excitement. Eve has been opened up to a more interactive type of play and perhaps this is the start. perhaps null sec agents will offer missions fighting the drifters and we could all contribute to pushing them back to where ever they are from, or we could assist in securing the materials needed for null sec communications against drifter attack. ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 1:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5602 "2019-07-11T01:22:10Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > And if adaption meant you had to kiss someone’s reproduction organ or waste disposal orifice, would you be proud of doing it? There’s websites for that… 😮 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/c/acccfdad74708c73183c3259e9eced68eabe68b5.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5603 "2019-07-11T01:26:16Z")
> [@Kojee](#): > > Get them to help your sorry ass? For the fourth time, it takes 6 seconds for 2 40k damage alphas to arrive, popping any subcap tank. NOTHING, even if it was already in warp, would land in time. It’s literally grade math, get your kid to help you solve it. > [@Kojee](#): > > Fix your overview? How does fixing your overview prevent anything when you are dead before anything is even locked? > [@Kojee](#): > > You don’t need it scouted 23/7 Yes you do - you miss one ganktard in a cloaky cyno ship, and that’s it - the uncounterable blops drop gets the free kill. Only 23/7 100% attention camp with no right to miss a second between breaking cloak and cloaking - only bots can do it. > [@Kojee](#): > > That’s what a scout is for. You can easily see gate flash and the dude uncloak/cloak when getting into system. if it got into a system, you already lost the system. Knowing it doesn’t change anything, you can safely assume he’s already there with no local. Not to mention it is humanely impossible to camp a gate 23/7 and not to miss a single second of 3500 gate flashes it generates per day. Why are you so stupid you can’t even see the obvious? > [@Kojee](#): > > So… you need to make it MORE safe for you to play? I need to make it less than 100% safe for YOU to play. But you seem to be unable to play unless it’s 100% safe for you, but judge me for your own sins, chicken hypocrite. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5604 "2019-07-11T01:27:26Z")
> [@Aaron](#): > > It’s better you just leave and stop talking about it. the game has been too easy for too long. It’s being made even easier for the ganktard. Yay? > [@Aaron](#): > > From a role players perspective I’m loving this, they have tied in game events to mechanic changes which is a great because it makes us part of the story. This is a great new way to manage a game I’m really on the edge of my seat here with all the excitement. You’re roleplaying a braindead moron fascinated with killing the game? Interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Luralei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luralei/32/147527_2.png) [@Luralei](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luralei)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5605 "2019-07-11T01:28:44Z")
I have been playing since 2005, and this… Is the best thing ever. It brings new meaning to recon / scouting. These roles will be critical in any fleet now. This should have been done way earlier. This opens up so much more tactical decisions and things that the FC’s have to take into account. Just think about it… you can actually do a surprise attack … ---
**Author:** ![Tace\_Orlenard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tace_orlenard/32/147523_2.png) [@Tace\_Orlenard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tace_Orlenard)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5606 "2019-07-11T01:29:13Z")
You’re acting like delayed local in null means you’re the only person who can die now, and everyone is coming for you… You have some very irrational fears over a video game. Everyone else’s local is gone too. They can be bringing a fleet to come hunt, just 2 jumps away from you mining or running sites, and get dropped on by the same thing you’re so afraid of. You sound delusional. Maybe you should quit the game. ---
**Author:** ![Kojee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kojee/32/458662_2.png) [@Kojee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kojee)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5607 "2019-07-11T01:29:58Z")
Can I have your stuff? Your salt tastes soooo good. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5608 "2019-07-11T01:31:04Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > And man it 23/7 cuz maybe they’ll bite somewhere within the next 120 hours. Or maybe not, it only takes 40 IQ to leave obvious traps be, while a number of people losing their time manning it. No, that won’t work without local at all. Ah, so there it is. You want to be safe 24/7 while you can be greedy and mine a bunch WITHOUT any of the drawbacks. Looks like you don’t have the skin for EVE. I’d ask if I can have your stuff, but a couple of mining barges and some rocks is no more than trash, so you can keep it. Thanks for all the salt, won’t miss you when you’re gone! 🍿 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=276) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=278)