# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935 "2019-07-05T16:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 285
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5751 "2019-07-11T08:31:44Z")
Im looking forward to it and hoping it stays, If it does i’ll probably start buying plex with real money to fund my pvp habit like ive done in the past. ---
**Author:** ![Chiara\_Sebi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chiara_sebi/32/147070_2.png) [@Chiara\_Sebi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chiara_Sebi)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5752 "2019-07-11T08:32:03Z")
I’ll stay in zero, but I won’t miner for now. I will already adapt. Ccp didn’t think the whole thing through! More I say not! ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5753 "2019-07-11T08:33:28Z")
You are 5487 posts late 🤣 Good advice though 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5754 "2019-07-11T08:33:53Z")
> [@Litsea\_Reticulata](#): > > Interceptor entosis was broken for months after release. Only peoples ability to deal with them was an issue, no ‘nerf’ was needed. I used to kill them as they came, easily. > [@Litsea\_Reticulata](#): > > Rorquals were nerfed multiple times. Still aint right either. ---
**Author:** ![Litsea\_Reticulata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/litsea_reticulata/32/328016_2.png) [@Litsea\_Reticulata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Litsea_Reticulata)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5755 "2019-07-11T08:33:53Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Everyone else with a backbone keeps producing. You mean a super capital backbone? ---
**Author:** ![Ni\_Neith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ni_neith/32/182183_2.png) [@Ni\_Neith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ni_Neith)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5756 "2019-07-11T08:34:51Z")
So you won’t mine, you won’t pvp…what are you going to do? Stay docked all the time? ---
**Author:** ![Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glornak_ironspawn/32/200497_2.png) [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glornak_Ironspawn)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5757 "2019-07-11T08:35:32Z")
Well said. Though CCP could easily add a “fringe” tax on sov that has little to no ADM then add a progressive tax on top of normal sov bills that goes up the higher ADMs are and the higher the average population of the system is or based on sites cleared. Meaning that smaller and/or more spread out groups will have to pay SUBSTANTIALLY less for their bills. For underutilised (Lore: Outsourcing costs for rogue asteroid clearing and pirate hunting) and overutilised (Lore: Outsource costs for helping to find the extreme amount of pirates/rocks in system needed for your group) systems alliances should be paying far far more than the puny 900 mil for TCU and I hub. Far be it from me who’s only been a leader in a 90 or man null alliance to propose a progressive tax amount that’d work though. I’m fairly sure even 5 bil for a fringe system isn’t enough to deter many. Definitely would need to make the overutilization tax scale enough to have diminishing returns in dense systems. Talking where the alliance is paying about as much as the members are making in said systems. Not talking Delve system populations either. Less than half that. ---
**Author:** ![Atin\_Adestur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/atin_adestur/32/272412_2.png) [@Atin\_Adestur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Atin_Adestur)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5758 "2019-07-11T08:35:40Z")
I’m sitting in a mining barge right now… In a wormhole. No local here and I’m still mining… Even if there may be a friendly loki sitting 40km off just in case something small decides to play. ---
**Author:** ![Litsea\_Reticulata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/litsea_reticulata/32/328016_2.png) [@Litsea\_Reticulata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Litsea_Reticulata)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5759 "2019-07-11T08:36:01Z")
> [@Leovarian\_Lavitz](#): > > Blops gang time, arise sspectre alliance, our time is now! Sorry, your FC isn’t any less likely to get awoxxed with local removed. Perhaps NPSI should be Now Piss Screening Initiates? ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5760 "2019-07-11T08:37:05Z")
What could this cloaked loki do to 50+ bomber fleet dropping on you? 🤔 (yes, i haven’t missed that you are talking about WH. but discussion itself is about null-sec) ---
**Author:** ![Litsea\_Reticulata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/litsea_reticulata/32/328016_2.png) [@Litsea\_Reticulata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Litsea_Reticulata)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5761 "2019-07-11T08:37:56Z")
> [@Jake\_Coolidge](#): > > More PVP happened when local was broken. More PvP happened because something that should have been working wasn’t. There could be infinite PvP if CCP decided to randomly disconnected people during fleets, just don’t see that as being accepted by the player base as being a good ongoing mechanism because it ‘increases’ PvP. ---
**Author:** ![Litsea\_Reticulata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/litsea_reticulata/32/328016_2.png) [@Litsea\_Reticulata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Litsea_Reticulata)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5762 "2019-07-11T08:40:35Z")
> [@Lugburz](#): > > Interceptors were not killing the game I was 1 of 6 charcals waiting on a gate. A 40 man interceptor gang jumped in. Not a one hung around to try their luck. Don’t tell me that instant warp and bubble immunity wasn’t bad for PvP. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5763 "2019-07-11T08:40:55Z")
> **[Bustard | Litsea Reticulata | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/53430394/)** > > Litsea Reticulata (Science and Trade Institute) lost their Bustard in Aunenen (Lonetrek). Final Blow by Horak Thor (TunDraGon) flying in a Stratios. Total Value: 394,968,702.30 ISK i lol’d > **[Mobile Tractor Unit | Litsea Reticulata | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/68051374/)** > > Litsea Reticulata (Science and Trade Institute) lost their Mobile Tractor Unit in Ebo (Domain). Final Blow by quietslayer (WiNGSPAN Delivery Services) flying in a Purifier. Total Value: 7,482,470.57 ISK must admit you really look like the sort of person we should all be listening too… ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5764 "2019-07-11T08:42:57Z")
bubble immunity is fine and only claws were instawarp with twi istabs besides, caracals cant catch any frigate on a gate so your point is moot. What else did you have on the gate? Was it in lowsec? Why would a 40 man gang not stop to shoot at 6 caracals… probably because you werent their target and you were sat at 0m or off the gate with no means to stop them; bubble immunity or otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Atin\_Adestur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/atin_adestur/32/272412_2.png) [@Atin\_Adestur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Atin_Adestur)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5765 "2019-07-11T08:44:43Z")
Loki’s not going to stop a 16 man T3C fleet from rolling on me either. But it’s insurance that a saber alone won’t pop my covetor without a fight. I won’t even decloak if I can’t win, I’ll just eat the loss like I have several times… Hell, I manufacture my AFK retrievers in hole along with their fitting. Like this weekend. Undock all the bait ships, cloak a fleet on grid and wait. I promise you there’ll be a small gang fleet by to kill you eventually. You might die, but your allies can make the loss hurt them more than your loss hurts you… Plus do it enough and at random and people will stop trying to gank. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5766 "2019-07-11T08:46:24Z")
prolly get some good fights too. ---
**Author:** ![Taka\_Moghashi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/taka_moghashi/32/143446_2.png) [@Taka\_Moghashi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Taka_Moghashi)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5767 "2019-07-11T08:46:35Z")
Well said! Totally true ---
**Author:** ![Atin\_Adestur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/atin_adestur/32/272412_2.png) [@Atin\_Adestur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Atin_Adestur)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5768 "2019-07-11T08:47:33Z")
Remind me that if I ever kill you I need to keep your corpse. I like you. (seriously, these guys corpses would just make my corpse hanger look dirty) ---
**Author:** ![Vazqez\_McLoud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vazqez_mcloud/32/124477_2.png) [@Vazqez\_McLoud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vazqez_McLoud)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5769 "2019-07-11T08:47:47Z")
I have been following Sayejk for a long time. Everyone is crying or enjoying themselves. Aikt did not give a solution to this problem. And the solution exists and it is not difficult to introduce. And it does not matter if the local is there or not. It is necessary to introduce the possibility of renting CONCORD for protection. No matter where you are, CONCORD will protected you at (0.5) Protection should be limited to 1 solar system. According to rule 1, you pay for one system. If someone wants to kill you there without intervening, CONCORD must declare war The amount of the fee for protection should be adequate to the number of accounts in the corporation. The more accounts, the greater the fee. Price 100 million isk per account. protection period 7 days ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5770 "2019-07-11T08:49:02Z")
He is not different than Scoots Choco for this matter. Or Ni Neith. Or 90% of Blackout supporters in this thread. That’s the purpose of this thread: to let trolls to have a party. And it succeeded! See how many “first time posters” are in here! 🥳 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=284) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=286)