# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935>\
**Category:** Announcements\
**Tags:** feedback, official\
**Created:** [July 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935 "2019-07-05T16:28:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Skilled\_Bitch\_Midumulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skilled_bitch_midumulf/32/146897_2.png) [@Skilled\_Bitch\_Midumulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skilled_Bitch_Midumulf)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5771 "2019-07-11T08:49:11Z")

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CCP succeded then …

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**Author:** ![Atin\_Adestur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/atin_adestur/32/272412_2.png) [@Atin\_Adestur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Atin_Adestur)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5772 "2019-07-11T08:52:19Z")

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Most of the blackout supporters seem to be wormholers that understand how no local works and realize it’s not that big a deal.  
Me, I’m just mostly explaining it on my main waiting and hoping for ingame bounties that haven’t happened. (Seriously, show some displeasure by bountying me, make someone’s day!)

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**Author:** ![Litsea\_Reticulata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/litsea_reticulata/32/328016_2.png) [@Litsea\_Reticulata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Litsea_Reticulata)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5773 "2019-07-11T08:52:40Z")

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> [@Lugburz](#):
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> i lol’d

Bought a scorpion that happened to be in a High security island. Got the bustard in one way, waited until after downtime. Ran into elite PvP after downtime in the form of a single Phobos, who had friends.

How would have removing local helped with this situation when they obviously had people in system, ready to go?

> [@Lugburz](#):
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> must admit you really look like the sort of person we should all be listening too

What, because two bombers blowing up a MTU is elite PvP ? I bet it took more torpedo’s to kill than a retriever.

Come into high security space, you can PvP me as much as you want, but I’ll bet concord kills you every time.

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5774 "2019-07-11T08:53:01Z")

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They sure have this month if their intention was to bring back the pvp that makes the game fun and get rid of the freeloading carebears that want bubblewrapped pods and isk handed to them on easy mode.

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5775 "2019-07-11T08:55:30Z")

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> [@Litsea\_Reticulata](#):
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> Come into high security space

Why are you here bitching about whats happening in nullsec?

> [@Litsea\_Reticulata](#):
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> Ran into elite PvP after downtime in the form of a single Phobos, who had friends

nothing you say really seems to make much sense atm…

> [@Litsea\_Reticulata](#):
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> How would have removing local helped with this situation when they obviously had people in system, ready to go?

In lowsec?  
what?

> [@Litsea\_Reticulata](#):
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> What, because two bombers blowing up a MTU is elite PvP ? I bet it took more torpedo’s to kill than a retriever.

Yeh two bombers, could have easily killed them with one of them caracals you apparently fly…

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**Author:** ![Atin\_Adestur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/atin_adestur/32/272412_2.png) [@Atin\_Adestur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Atin_Adestur)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5776 "2019-07-11T08:58:59Z")

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Scout the gate next time. That was an easily avoided loss.

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**Author:** ![Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bellanea_rajanir/32/130836_2.png) [@Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bellanea_Rajanir)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5777 "2019-07-11T09:02:56Z")

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The mechanisms of null were unsustainable for CCP in long run, they had to change it.

You had years and years of time to accumulate wealth, now you will have to use that wealth. If you still want to own wealth, there are still better options than grind, its PLEX.  
Thats what CCP cares about too. Amount of PLEX sold.

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5778 "2019-07-11T09:03:10Z")

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no prop mod or cloak either, and yet this is the type of player that insists on having things their way… wonder why…

inb4 they reply with a ‘‘its a dst theres no point fitting a cloak’’ lol

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**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5779 "2019-07-11T09:10:31Z")

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The problem is not just you have to react like a ninja bot to it, but you’re dead regarless, and you cyno is down, anyone arriving to it is tossed to the sun, and you’re achieving nothing, making this 100% safe for the ganktard.

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**Author:** ![Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glornak_ironspawn/32/200497_2.png) [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glornak_Ironspawn)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5781 "2019-07-11T09:13:14Z")

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Oh well then? It’s a barge. In wormholes we just brush off the loss. Then proceed to kill, run off or bait the intruders. Null is capable of doing that much better than us.

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**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5782 "2019-07-11T09:14:46Z")

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> [@Hammer\_Bell](#):
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> Also, as they don’t, I suspect the real truth is that something is going wrong in the 64-bit client involving processor or memory loads because of local, and this “experiment” is a cover for that. It wouldn’t be the first time CCP was having issues with local chat. Just a thought…

Don’t think. The client is the client, it has entirely to do with display and rendering. It should have little to no affect on the servers.

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**Author:** ![Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glornak_ironspawn/32/200497_2.png) [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glornak_Ironspawn)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5783 "2019-07-11T09:15:47Z")

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You must mean 90% of blackout detractors are trolls right? Nearly all of them just say “ugh CCP your stoopid, unsubbing X number of accounts” while at least more than a quarter of the supporters at least state why they think it’s good for the game.

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**Author:** ![Litsea\_Reticulata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/litsea_reticulata/32/328016_2.png) [@Litsea\_Reticulata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Litsea_Reticulata)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5784 "2019-07-11T09:16:07Z")

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> [@Lugburz](#):
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> Why are you here bitching about whats happening in nullsec?

My first character was in 0.0 after our corporation was greifed by war declarations.

> [@Lugburz](#):
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> nothing you say really seems to make much sense atm

Therein lies the problem when good PvP can’t be seen any different to seal clubbing.

> [@Lugburz](#):
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> In lowsec?  
> what?

Pretend it was in Null and there was the blackout. I was dead either way, right? So what is this change going to do for people who do what I did wrong? Nothing.

> [@Lugburz](#):
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> Yeh two bombers, could have easily killed them with one of them caracals you apparently fly…

Not while sleeping. Sucks when you get up to take a dump and next thing you know you wake up and your MTU is gone.

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**Author:** ![Ni\_Neith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ni_neith/32/182183_2.png) [@Ni\_Neith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ni_Neith)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5785 "2019-07-11T09:16:40Z")

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You don’t understand. He is complaining that he can’t afk mine/rat in 100% safety. And I am not even talking about watching porn/netflix while tabbed out. Those people are literally AFK outside doing gardening or something else.

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**Author:** ![Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glornak_ironspawn/32/200497_2.png) [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glornak_Ironspawn)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5786 "2019-07-11T09:22:16Z")

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Oh don’t worry I know. He’s just nearly the 40th person I’ve argued with in this thread alone and I’m still dedicated enough to give him a unique response.

Fun fact. I can watch Netflix on my other screen and play on my phone and STILL NOT SUCK AND DIE while mining with no local in wormholes. Dscan can only be refreshed every 3 seconds anyway. Course nullbears aren’t gonna be happy til local is back up and/or dscan is constant and doesn’t need to be pulsed.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5787 "2019-07-11T09:22:24Z")

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> [@Ni\_Neith](#):
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> You don’t understand. He is complaining that he can’t afk mine/rat in 100% safety.

There is your comprehension issue right there.

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**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5788 "2019-07-11T09:23:52Z")

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> [@Abe\_Rollin](#):
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> I find it astounding that so many of your scouts are red/blue colour blind

I find it astounding that you seriously propose 100% attention 23/7 gate watching every gate as a viable gameplay for humans.

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**Author:** ![Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glornak_ironspawn/32/200497_2.png) [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glornak_Ironspawn)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5789 "2019-07-11T09:24:58Z")

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It currently is. Don’t know why no local will make it harder. Beyond the fact that 100% safety should be impossible anyway.

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**Author:** ![Ni\_Neith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ni_neith/32/182183_2.png) [@Ni\_Neith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ni_Neith)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5790 "2019-07-11T09:25:09Z")

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Here we go again. A botter is complaining that his automated ALARM won’t gonna work anymore.

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**Author:** ![H4zz4rd](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/h4zz4rd/32/298606_2.png) [@H4zz4rd](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/H4zz4rd)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5791 "2019-07-11T09:25:28Z")

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I have the feeling that CCP is thinking that this event will change null sec to push more pvp into it. Making null sec harder to live in. I would bet that we will see the lowest number of eve dudes online this weekend. Null sec players are not jumping onto this train with ccp, they are going offline and start playing other games during this “test” phase.

PVPlers will only find other pvplers in null. All carebears will be offline. xD

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