# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935 "2019-07-05T16:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 288
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5813 "2019-07-11T10:15:14Z")
> [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](#): > > Jesus your just awful at all your arguments. You don’t like them because they crush your stupidity, that is obvious. > [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](#): > > They show a bit of traffic and npc info. Is that how little you know? Wow, so bad… no wonder you’re a ganktard, with that intelligence, you can only do imbecile-proof activities all right… > [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](#): > > Zkill doesn’t show ■■■■ unless your looking at a specific person Because system lookup does not exist? Literally facepalming at how pathetically dumb you are, son. > [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](#): > > As for “100% risk free ganks” no such thing. Yes, it’s only 99% safe with local, but gonna be 100% safe without it. That’s what all the cretins are excited about, no risk. > [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](#): > > Covert ops cynos change almost nothing hahahahahahahaha. Clearly you never took one to the face and simply not educated. They are the iwin button of this change, until they are changed, it’s freewin. And you can’t even see that, just how much of a noob you are? Go back to hisec. ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5814 "2019-07-11T10:17:05Z")
Would not mind a more full low sec to be honest some good fights can be had there at the moment. To be honest a black out in low-sec sounds kind of nice too, it would definitely spice things up a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glornak_ironspawn/32/200497_2.png) [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glornak_Ironspawn)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5815 "2019-07-11T10:18:31Z")
I’ll stay in wormholes thank you. Where I can continue to be more competent than you at EVE is every way. Ha. Telling me to go to hisec when you can’t deal with cloakies. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5816 "2019-07-11T10:20:24Z")
> [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](#): > > I’ll stay in wormholes thank you. Where I can continue to be more competent than you at EVE is every way. Ha. Yes, the chicken space you can isolate and be a full chicken in. > [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](#): > > Telling me to go to hisec when you can’t deal with cloakies. Dealing with cloakies who can’t drop 100 bombers on you instantly is easy, hence chickens love wormhole life. Dealing with cloakies that can is whole other matter, which you are completely new to, and refuse education. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5817 "2019-07-11T10:21:36Z")
> [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > Would not mind a more full low sec to be honest some good fights can be had there at the moment. Don’t worry, we’re not getting anywhere near lowsec. After all, it’s hard to move anywhere on an alpha character, and ■■■■ space with nothing to do in it doesn’t interest us much anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glornak_ironspawn/32/200497_2.png) [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glornak_Ironspawn)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5818 "2019-07-11T10:22:54Z")
Chickens love wormhole space? Then why do you live in null allegedly? Edit: Cause your a coward who complains about your non existent problems on a forum with your alt and calls anyone who gives you advice or doesn’t agree with you a coward cause your using an alt so they can’t hunt you down. This right here is my main. I mine in wormholes and I build in wormholes then export ore and products for isk. Don’t for a second act like you know even 20% of what I know about surviving anywhere in EVE as a primarily PvE player. ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5819 "2019-07-11T10:23:00Z")
Do you quantify the quality of space with the amount of easy isk to be made there? lol. We truly are very different in our outlooks of eve, for me great space is one with lots of pvp happening every day, lots of fun to be had :]. ---
**Author:** ![bigfatbird](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bigfatbird/32/145787_2.png) [@bigfatbird](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bigfatbird)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5820 "2019-07-11T10:26:11Z")
Yes, because dscan spaming is the very definition of fun. Hell best mechanic that was ever introduced in any game… Seriously tho, if you are part of a big powerblock then nothing will change. Still gona outblob anything thats stupid enough to tackle a rorqual or a super. Only guys who get shafted by this are the small guys who relayed on early warning intel to stay alive. ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5821 "2019-07-11T10:28:38Z")
The small guy’s can use strategy and tactics to overcome it thou, those who have an easy life with capitals will not grow knowledge wise but those under pressure and difficult situations will be the complete opposite. There is tons of way to still make a ton of isk in null and It’ll be worth a lot more now as the supply would be less. D-scan range will remain slightly more than 14AU, d-scan inhibitors are still a thing bubbles on gates are still a thing, there is some secrets I would personally not like to share that would let smaller groups be even more efficient they just have to be put into a hard situation to figure it all out. When me and a few friends tried out a sector of nullsec that sounded fun the first thing we realized when we moved in was that we where camped in by an alliance tournament alliance and even thou we where being farmed pretty much every day we still made the most of it and some how came out decently well, did end up moving out but it was fun the hardship made it even better. ---
**Author:** ![Fhaigheann\_tubasanois](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fhaigheann_tubasanois/32/139200_2.png) [@Fhaigheann\_tubasanois](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fhaigheann_tubasanois)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5822 "2019-07-11T10:30:51Z")
small guys in null? you must mean those silly renters who fill the coffers of null blocks for protection only to get shafted later as systems are left to fend for themselves as a rival alliance moves in ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Widow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_widow/32/268271_2.png) [@Black\_Widow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Widow)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5823 "2019-07-11T10:31:41Z")
https://www.youtube.com/embed/VgvM7av1o1Q?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=RDVgvM7av1o1Q ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5824 "2019-07-11T10:33:10Z")
even better, killing afk nubs isnt much fun anyway. much like having to sit in their space for over an hour whilst they try and get 30+ guys to come fight your solo nomen… ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5825 "2019-07-11T10:34:47Z")
That’s not broken, that is what CCP wants. Titans are the super awesome mega ships everyone loves to use because they are huge and powerful and compensate the fragile egos of their contemporary holder chars. CCP is forcing everyone into these ships and turns from a social experiment about the hideous, dark nature of humankind into a social experiment about how to best appease socially fragile characters so that they spent as much RL money as possible on your software… ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5826 "2019-07-11T10:35:15Z")
> [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > Do you quantify the quality of space with the amount of easy isk to be made there? lol. We truly are very different in our outlooks of eve, for me great space is one with lots of pvp happening every day, lots of fun to be had :]. pvp in eve is a niche system that is boring the living hell out of everyone with a shred of intelligence. it is no miracle nobody wants to deal with it for more than it takes to secure space. Also, I want to play in a ship bigger than destroyer. Your playstyle does not seem to offer this opportunity. ---
**Author:** ![Expendable\_Unit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/expendable_unit/32/377349_2.png) [@Expendable\_Unit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Expendable_Unit)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5827 "2019-07-11T10:35:42Z")
What a waste of time and content… Laughable. ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5828 "2019-07-11T10:39:48Z")
Each to their own, the depth you find in pvp is huge, pve content was interesting at first but after 12 years of playing this game Pve has pretty much not changed much at all, besides abyss. ---
**Author:** ![Albert\_Kring](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/albert_kring/32/443784_2.png) [@Albert\_Kring](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Albert_Kring)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5829 "2019-07-11T10:40:07Z")
Now please remove jump freighters and create a nullified DST-like transport ship. Also remove Rorquals and now that you are at it remove all capital ships, and cynos. Bring gritty gameplay back to EVE. Give NullSec to small-scale warlords instead of large-scale empires. If it becomes safer than HighSec again, don’t let it last so long and rebalance. NullSec is at the margins of civilization, where there is no rule of law. Life should be hard, ruthless, and most people going there should lose instead of make money, even when the sites pay more and there are rare ores. Money should only be made later, when you earn your place and learn the ropes. Down with the blue doughnut and rampant inflation due to NullSec commodities being cheap to extract and produce. If you want to live from safe PvE activities your only option should be HighSec, and it should be a valid way to make a (modest) living, instead of the grindfest it is today (because of inflation caused by super-safe NullSec). Life in NullSec should be for the strong and fearless, not for the risk-averse. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5830 "2019-07-11T10:41:23Z")
> [@Litsea\_Reticulata](#): > > Pretend it was in Null and there was the blackout. I was dead either way, right? no but in null your more likely to get caught; sabres cant operate in lowsec… cant do mwd trick if bubbled but you can try make it back to the gate. In essence no, you wouldnt have 100% died, thats all on you - ive had plenty of dst and the like escape my sabre even in nullsec. Blackout means DST’s, viators and so on have even more chance of escaping the net, as I cant simply watch local. ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5831 "2019-07-11T10:42:02Z")
Can you imagine when high sec guys look at the prices of null sec rarities and the light shines in their eyes and say to them selves ■■■■ it! It’s risky as hell but damn I want some of that even if we have to die 100 times trying. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5832 "2019-07-11T10:44:27Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > pvp in eve is a niche system that is boring the living hell out of everyone with a shred of intelligence. lolwut? > [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > Also, I want to play in a ship bigger than destroyer. Your playstyle does not seem to offer this opportunity. yeh rorqual i bet. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=287) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=289)