# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935 "2019-07-05T16:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 289
**Author:** ![Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glornak_ironspawn/32/200497_2.png) [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glornak_Ironspawn)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5833 "2019-07-11T10:47:39Z")
Ya made me wake up my wife laughing you bastard. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5834 "2019-07-11T10:48:09Z")
> [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > The small guy’s can use strategy and tactics to overcome it thou, those who have an easy life with capitals will not grow knowledge wise but those under pressure and difficult situations will be the complete opposite. All subcap life will be eradicated with covert cyno 100% safe ganktarding. Subcap undocking is done and gone in nullsec. > [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > There is tons of way to still make a ton of isk in null and It’ll be worth a lot more now as the supply would be less. Yes, by being in a super in one of the 6 regions with supercap umbrellas. Other 27 are shafted. > [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > D-scan range will remain slightly more than 14AU And 0AU vs cynodropper, 100% useless. > [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > d-scan inhibitors are still a thing 30mil a pop, 2 hours duration, ■■■■ range, visible on dscan, NEVER USED ONCE in eve history to any relevance. > [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > bubbles on gates are still a thing Unmanageable, easily poppable, do not stop cloakies and nullified trashes, completely useless. > [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > there is some secrets I would personally not like to share Your IQ being in the lower twenties is not exactly a secret anymore. > [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > When me and a few friends tried out a sector of nullsec that sounded fun the first thing we realized when we moved in was that we where camped in by an alliance tournament alliance and even thou we where being farmed pretty much every day we still made the most of it and some how came out decently well, did end up moving out but it was fun the hardship made it even better. In other words, you got raped and liked it. I’m not gonna argue over taste, but deviations like that are clearly not for everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5835 "2019-07-11T10:52:34Z")
> [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > Each to their own, the depth you find in pvp is huge, pve content was interesting at first but after 12 years of playing this game Pve has pretty much not changed much at all, besides abyss. The depth in pvp is none. Assets get on grid, exchange fire, side with bigger SP gets to keep theirs. Literally. Zero. Depth. I agree about pve not changing - a shakeup in pve would harm bots more than this pointless blackout stupidity. Abyss, however, can go ■■■■ itself, because risking a multi-billion ship to every little internet hickup is not a gameplay I can support. ---
**Author:** ![Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glornak_ironspawn/32/200497_2.png) [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glornak_Ironspawn)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5836 "2019-07-11T10:53:56Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > 30mil a pop, 2 hours duration, ■■■■ range, visible on dscan, NEVER USED ONCE in eve history to any relevance. Never used in null because local made it irrelevant. Used in wormholes every once in a while cause it’s got good niche uses. > [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > Unmanageable, easily poppable, do not stop cloakies and nullified trashes, completely useless. It’s almost cute how you don’t know how to PvE in null/wormholes. Except your old enough to use a computer so I’d expect you to be able to ask other people or use Google and know that bubbles are incredibly important and useful when used properly or en masse. > [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > Your IQ being in the lower twenties is not exactly a secret anymore. Idiotsayswhat ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5837 "2019-07-11T10:55:41Z")
lol my IQ is none of your concern but I’m guessing your a 90 by your constant complaining, do you ever overcome a challenge or do you just complain until someone holds your hands lol… so bad. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5838 "2019-07-11T10:56:00Z")
> [@Albert\_Kring](#): > > Life in NullSec should be for the strong and fearless, not for the risk-averse. Those words exactly - there should be no risk-averse riskless ganking in nullsec for chickens who won’t even engage if they have 1% chance to lose. That’s why covert cynos must be changed first, as covert cyno ganks are already 99% safe and violate the rule of nullsec needing to be dangerous. ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5839 "2019-07-11T10:56:30Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > The depth in pvp is none. Assets get on grid, exchange fire, side with bigger SP gets to keep theirs. Literally. Zero. Depth. > I agree about pve not changing - a shakeup in pve would harm bots more than this pointless blackout stupidity. > Abyss, however, can go ■■■■ itself, because risking a multi-billion ship to every little internet hickup is not a gameplay I can support. If all people do is f1 and orbit fc while following primaries then yes that would be shallow as ■■■■ pvp :], hint there is a lot better ways to pvp and a lot more depth involved but most people don’t even get to experience that. But yes Pve wise there is a lot that can be changed that would hurt AI and CCP improving their own npc AI would help in that regard too. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5840 "2019-07-11T10:59:29Z")
> [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > there is a lot better ways to pvp. Yeah I can be a risk-averse cloaky cyno ganktard and pretend this risk-free activity is pvp. Nah mate. I tried it all, and pvp in this game is boring zero-depth activity where people who can’t do anything else fall due to how easy it is compared to the rest of the game. > [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > But yes Pve wise there is a lot that can be changed that would hurt AI and CCP improving their own npc AI would help in that regard too. They can say they did it with drifter spawns. Now if only there were any reward fighting those… ---
**Author:** ![7ohnine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/7ohnine/32/147604_2.png) [@7ohnine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/7ohnine)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5841 "2019-07-11T10:59:54Z")
Maybe its just to reduce server loads and minimise socket connections required to support large numbers of people who have nothing to say … 🤪 ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5842 "2019-07-11T11:01:23Z")
Not sure how much it would reduce server load to be honest, CCP would still need to have that data of who is in the System anyways for themselves but yea they wont have to send that data to each of the client’s which could be some what lag reducing. ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5843 "2019-07-11T11:02:30Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > Yeah I can be a risk-averse cloaky cyno ganktard and pretend this risk-free activity is pvp. > Nah mate. I tried it all, and pvp in this game is boring zero-depth activity where people who can’t do anything else fall due to how easy it is compared to the rest of the game. Cloaky cyno gangtarding is super lame boring pvp yea, again there is much better way’s to pvp. Pvp where both sides stand a chance of winning is the only true pvp in my eye’s if there is no challenge then its boring you don’t learn anything from ganging something expensive. Killboards are probably to blame for this thou, I would like to know what eve would be like if people killing expensive thing’s wasn’t recorded. Or better yet if killboards didn’t show isk lost/destroyed it only had point’s which are severely reduced if you outnumber or outship your enemy. In a way that put the most skillful people at the top point wise and the people who only gang 10-100 guys to 1 expensive kill right at the bottom. ---
**Author:** ![Spruillo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spruillo/32/399314_2.png) [@Spruillo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spruillo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5844 "2019-07-11T11:03:51Z")
What about someone like me. I am physically and constitutionally incapable of… not trolling local. ---
**Author:** ![Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glornak_ironspawn/32/200497_2.png) [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glornak_Ironspawn)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5845 "2019-07-11T11:04:21Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > The depth in pvp is none. Assets get on grid, exchange fire, side with bigger SP gets to keep theirs. Literally. Zero. Depth. Oh yea sure. That’s why EVE doesn’t have Tournaments. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_Orcanus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/paul_orcanus/32/141482_2.png) [@Paul\_Orcanus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Paul_Orcanus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5846 "2019-07-11T11:10:05Z")
Madness, if i wanted no local i would move back into Wormholes ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5847 "2019-07-11T11:14:19Z")
So where would you move now out of interest with this change, the harsh eve universe is like nature it doesn’t really care what people want, people need to adapt to the environment. If bear grill’s was stuck in a cave in the arctic and he said I don’t like this it’s unfair what would the viewers think? xD ---
**Author:** ![Guardian\_Ryu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/guardian_ryu/32/145896_2.png) [@Guardian\_Ryu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Guardian_Ryu)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5848 "2019-07-11T11:39:28Z")
I got a 6th account and plan on buying more plex for skins. The game feels alive again! ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Kindjal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_kindjal/32/141344_2.png) [@Mr\_Kindjal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Kindjal)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5849 "2019-07-11T11:41:28Z")
This will be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Ni\_Neith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ni_neith/32/182183_2.png) [@Ni\_Neith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ni_Neith)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5850 "2019-07-11T11:41:52Z")
I am collecting his quotes to make a collage. It will be called “The Anatomy of a Krab” ---
**Author:** ![Litsea\_Reticulata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/litsea_reticulata/32/328016_2.png) [@Litsea\_Reticulata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Litsea_Reticulata)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5851 "2019-07-11T11:44:19Z")
> [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > Can you imagine when high sec guys look at the prices of null sec rarities and the light shines in their eyes and say to them selves ■■■■ it! It’s risky as hell but damn I want some of that even if we have to die 100 times trying. Prices aren’t going to go up that quickly and you’ll have to wait for the hoarders to run out of stock after the first waves of cashing in. ---
**Author:** ![Hope\_Lawson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hope_lawson/32/11171_2.png) [@Hope\_Lawson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hope_Lawson)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5852 "2019-07-11T11:44:49Z")
If you remove local in nullsec space, then remove jumping to cynos too please, to make it even with wormholes. Otherwise ratting/mining in nullsec will no longer be possible thanks to perma cloaked ships in system. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=288) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=290)