# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935 "2019-07-05T16:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 290
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5853 "2019-07-11T11:47:56Z")
Very True I guess I’m thinking maybe one year maybe one and a half years into the future, curse prices are going to crash very fast thou as people have way overpriced them lol and everyone and their grand mom’s are swapping to producing t2 recon’s, wouldn’t be surprised if they crash to 150mil within the next 2 months. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5854 "2019-07-11T11:50:14Z")
> [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](#): > > Oh yea sure. That’s why EVE doesn’t have Tournaments. And those tournaments totally don’t have a fuckton of rules, regulations, and limitations, which normal pvp does not have, to ensure decision mean something. Never watched one anyway, snorefests aren’t my thing. ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5855 "2019-07-11T11:52:00Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > snorefests aren’t my thing. Then why are you against blackout? It’ll lead to less “snorefests” that are afk mining and ratting activities. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5856 "2019-07-11T11:52:41Z")
> [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > If bear grill’s was stuck in a cave in the arctic and he said I don’t like this it’s unfair what would the viewers think? xD I bet if bear grills was forcibly moved into said cave without warning and preparation, he would’ve died for real. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5857 "2019-07-11T11:53:37Z")
> [@Guardian\_Ryu](#): > > I got a 6th account and plan on buying more plex for skins. The game feels alive again! Another chicken who subs only when ganks are made 100% safe, risk-averse trash who would go back to hisec once ganks are back to 99% safe, creating less content than a krab. ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5858 "2019-07-11T11:54:25Z")
But people in nullsec are not forced to stay in nullsec they can move where ever they want, no one told them this is the new nullsec now you have to stay in it, even if you don’t like it. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5859 "2019-07-11T11:55:14Z")
> [@Ms\_Steak](#): > > Then why are you against blackout? It’ll lead to less “snorefests” that are afk mining and ratting activities. Because it’ll throw the baby out with the bathwater by also leading to less no-snorefest activities, and remove risk from ganktarding, making nullsec too safe. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5860 "2019-07-11T11:56:04Z")
So you are the goblok whining that removing local will make nullsec too safe? ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5861 "2019-07-11T11:56:58Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > So you are the goblok whining that removing local will make nullsec too safe? Yep, it will make blops gank, which is already imbecile-proof and 99% safe, to become 100% safe. We don’t want safe nullsec, do we? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5862 "2019-07-11T12:00:07Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > it will make blops gank, which is already imbecile-proof and 99% safe, to become 100% safe. Let me guess, you got shot by a black ops ship, and you’ve never flown one? Link the killmail? ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5863 "2019-07-11T12:01:17Z")
> [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > no one told them this is the new nullsec That is exactly what’s being told. > [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > now you have to stay in it even if you don’t like it. Have I been given time to evac? Not even the first Athanor has unanchored yet - and who needs an Athanor you can’t mine because the only valid way to mine is now rorqblob with bozon already on grid? Not to mention it’s hard to move when your sub is paused and you’re alpha, because you’re not paying to entertain the ganktards (already got logoffs, remember?). And there have been literally ZERO discussion or communication from CCP about this, meaning it’s being shoved down on players. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5864 "2019-07-11T12:02:46Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > Have I been given time to evac? Yes sir, you’ve had plenty of time to pack up your ■■■■ and get out. I suggest you immediately set course for the Halaima ice belt, where your local CODE. agents will welcome you to high sec. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5865 "2019-07-11T12:03:28Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Let me guess, you got shot by a black ops ship, and you’ve never flown one? I was never shot by one (my friends did get caught on a few occasions however), and I’ve flown one and ganked krabs, most recent experience is anti-bot campaign in Perrigen Falls last year - bots were harder to catch (but still totally possible) while catching players was piss-easy, everyone complaining it’s hard must be terrible at this game. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Link the killmail? OPSEC. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5866 "2019-07-11T12:05:05Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Yes sir, you’ve had plenty of time to pack up your ■■■■ and get out. Not. Even. First. Athanor. Has. Unanchored. Yet. Literally not given enough time to pack up anything. Oh well, if all you pack is your destroyer and abysmal IQ, you really won’t have much luggage. ---
**Author:** ![Ni\_Neith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ni_neith/32/182183_2.png) [@Ni\_Neith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ni_Neith)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5867 "2019-07-11T12:05:06Z")
prior to the 48h warning you had a whole week. Furthermore you do not need to evac because of the asset safety. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5868 "2019-07-11T12:07:32Z")
> [@Ni\_Neith](#): > > prior to the 48h warning you had a whole week. Would you be so nice to ■■■■ off to google and check how long does it take to unanchor a structure before embarrasing yourself? > [@Ni\_Neith](#): > > Furthermore you do not need to evac because of the asset safety. 15% tax on that would make me pay a few orders of magnitude more ISK than you made in your entire eve life. if you’re willing to shoulder my expenses, I’m up to it. ---
**Author:** ![Erasmus\_Grant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erasmus_grant/32/469687_2.png) [@Erasmus\_Grant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erasmus_Grant)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5869 "2019-07-11T12:08:12Z")
Make it where NullSec Ice/Ore anomalies have to be probed down again. Its a benefit of our IHub and ADMs. Neutrals should not be able to instantly warp to a site that is the benefit of our groups hardwork and expense. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5870 "2019-07-11T12:08:40Z")
So you anchored an athanor in a region with no security, and apparently no friends, and now you are crying because you don’t have enough security? ---
**Author:** ![Ni\_Neith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ni_neith/32/182183_2.png) [@Ni\_Neith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ni_Neith)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5871 "2019-07-11T12:10:21Z")
I am so sorry to inform you that I am not the only one who gives zero fucks about your convenience. Also it has been established that you are a lying ■■■■. I am coming from one of the 2-0-5 whs and I haunted capitals for a living. Anything you say about ratters being easy to catch/ especially supers/ is a ■■■■■■■ lie. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/5872 "2019-07-11T12:11:35Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > So you anchored an athanor in a region with no security I anchored a bunch of athanors in a constellation I fought for. And now that security is being made meaningless because all risk is getting removed from ganktarding, making me unable to mine it, as I don’t have a fleet of rorqs and boson on field, which is the only counterplay to covops cyno ganktarding. Therefore the counterplay is to unanchor all structures I can no longer use with the coming changes, and I wasn’t given time to do that, forcing me into a cynodropable wormhole I have no interest to live in. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=289) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=291)