# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935 "2019-07-05T16:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 303
**Author:** ![plexbichest\_bitchester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/plexbichest_bitchester/32/147493_2.png) [@plexbichest\_bitchester](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/plexbichest_bitchester)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6118 "2019-07-11T22:54:19Z")
Frigates did when suicide ganking things worth 1000x their value? Fml nerf everything it’s the only way ---
**Author:** ![Loutro\_Fift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loutro_fift/32/195473_2.png) [@Loutro\_Fift](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loutro_Fift)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6119 "2019-07-11T22:56:25Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > > [@Dutch\_Motsu](#): > > > > As I’ve said in previous posts, the first week of blackout is going to be nuts with fights > > Opposite. Idiots who didn’t get the memo would get educated, bears would take a break. > > > [@Dutch\_Motsu](#): > > > > fit a proc for comba > > Discussed, has no chance to work, has chance to give free kills, will not undock. > > > [@Dutch\_Motsu](#): > > > > You can escape the cyno / covert cyno > > Lie won’t get you anywhere, those are unescapable and 100% safe. > > > [@Dutch\_Motsu](#): > > > > bring in a destroyer and kill their cyno > > Would still take over 10 second even for a no-tank bomber, won’t work. > > > [@Dutch\_Motsu](#): > > > > ratting in fast ships > > will get alphaed, won’t work. > > > [@Dutch\_Motsu](#): > > > > Blackout isnt the last step in the changes coming this year, it’s the first of many while they focus on making Nullsec better and more engaging for everyone. > > The way it is coming, unannounced, undiscussed, treating me as an entertainer for people not intellectually fit to serve hamburgers, is unacceptable. I do not care what their next step would be until they promise steps like this will no longer be a thing. Promises? You want promises? Hahahahaha Grow tfu We’re not in elementary school. Didn’t you quit Eve already? Tired of reading your whining posts. Promise me you’ll just dock up and fade away. Or is that something that “wont work”? This is real life. Change happens. ---
**Author:** ![Maria\_Dragoon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maria_dragoon/32/176816_2.png) [@Maria\_Dragoon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maria_Dragoon)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6120 "2019-07-11T22:57:13Z")
And your claim is I should include every death with a idiotic build as a pver, and not write it off as player error. You claimed pve ships. Mining barges and exhumers are pve ships. Your claim was thousands of pvers dye everyday. I displayed data that a certain subset of ships are actually safer than a ship subset you claim we should fear, now you you want me to do the leg work for you. Dude, you are the one making the outrageous claim. Provide me some outrageous data to back it up, that doesn’t take a 10 minute search on zkillboard on my phone to disprove you. ---
**Author:** ![Loutro\_Fift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loutro_fift/32/195473_2.png) [@Loutro\_Fift](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loutro_Fift)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6121 "2019-07-11T22:58:07Z")
He doesn’t use data, just his pure emotional claims cuz he just lost Eve ---
**Author:** ![Kalpel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalpel/32/186678_2.png) [@Kalpel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalpel)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6122 "2019-07-11T23:01:00Z")
> [@Sphinxx](#): > > Null is supposed to be dangerous bro, i roam null solo, too. Its not like people are going to flood to null because of the comms blackout, cmon. There will still be huge chunks of empty space. I’m worried about the stealth bombers while exploring, tho. Otherwise, nullsec is going to become a lot more exciting. Your killboard says you favor lowsec and have zero kills in Nullsec solo or in fleet, you talk the talk, but never walked the walk!.. ---
**Author:** ![Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glornak_ironspawn/32/200497_2.png) [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glornak_Ironspawn)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6123 "2019-07-11T23:03:34Z")
I linked both sites and proved your full of ■■■■. Just stop. ---
**Author:** ![Yrgrasil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yrgrasil/32/267896_2.png) [@Yrgrasil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yrgrasil)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6124 "2019-07-11T23:06:28Z")
> [@Kalpel](#): > > Your killboard says you favor lowsec and have zero kills in Nullsec solo or in fleet, you talk the talk, but never walked the walk!.. i did the walk and also think null will be more exciting for those who stay. So what now? ---
**Author:** ![Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glornak_ironspawn/32/200497_2.png) [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glornak_Ironspawn)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6125 "2019-07-11T23:07:09Z")
So how is it when more “ganktards” die than their targets on a weekly basis it’s somehow “99% safe for ganktards” before blackout? ---
**Author:** ![Loutro\_Fift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loutro_fift/32/195473_2.png) [@Loutro\_Fift](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loutro_Fift)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6126 "2019-07-11T23:09:36Z")
That is indeed some bad logic ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6127 "2019-07-11T23:09:38Z")
> [@Maria\_Dragoon](#): > > And your claim is I should include every death with a idiotic build as a pver, and not write it off as player error. You claimed pve ships. Mining barges and exhumers are pve ships. Your claim was thousands of pvers dye everyday. I displayed data that a certain subset of ships are actually safer than a ship subset you claim we should fear, now you you want me to do the leg work for you. Dude, you are the one making the outrageous claim. Provide me some outrageous data to back it up, that doesn’t take a 10 minute search on zkillboard on my phone to disprove you. You failed your attempt to disprove anything. You arbitrary narrowed down one subset to a lesser one. You ignored the common knowledge that people suicide gank in stealth bombers. So far all data you found has been in line with this claim, and you still complain. ---
**Author:** ![Ni\_Neith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ni_neith/32/182183_2.png) [@Ni\_Neith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ni_Neith)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6128 "2019-07-11T23:09:50Z")
I have it right before my inner eye: CCP finance and develop staff are sitting together and discuss how they have to revert everything back because Orca\_Platypus threw a tantrum on the forums. Maybe they will throw some cherries on top, like give him back his permabubbles so he can bubblefuck the region. ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6129 "2019-07-11T23:10:17Z")
> [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](#): > > I linked both sites and proved your full of ■■■■. Just stop. I get it you are mad. You are also wrong, DOTLAN will show Jumps Jumps 24h kills kills 24h NPC kills NPC kills delta NPC kills 24h In addition to a kill feed all delayed on ESI update (think wallet ticks) This is 101 stuff, the ingame map has every MORE data in that it who you cyno’s as well. ---
**Author:** ![Loutro\_Fift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loutro_fift/32/195473_2.png) [@Loutro\_Fift](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loutro_Fift)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6130 "2019-07-11T23:10:44Z")
> [@Ni\_Neith](#): > > I have it right before my inner eye: CCP finance and develop staff are sitting together and discuss how they have to revert everything back because Orca\_Platypus threw a tantrum on the forums. Maybe they will throw some cherries on top, like give him back his permabubbles so he can bubblefuck the region. Nah just kill his account, all 30 of them. He lost Eve already ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6131 "2019-07-11T23:11:23Z")
> [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](#): > > So how is it when more “ganktards” die than their targets on a weekly basis it’s somehow “99% safe for ganktards” before blackout? Once more, for people who are incredibly stupid: stealth bomber deaths in ganks are very very rare. Stealth bomber deaths in fleet engagements are common. Stealth bomber deaths because people suicide gank in them are VERY common. Being in a stealth bomber does not equal being a ganktard, which is where you try to twist the narrative. ---
**Author:** ![Yrgrasil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yrgrasil/32/267896_2.png) [@Yrgrasil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yrgrasil)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6132 "2019-07-11T23:11:27Z")
you are not even providing data with sources, just imaginary values you have in your head. I pretend i’m a unicorn sometimes. Doesn’t make it true, but makes me feel better ---
**Author:** ![Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glornak_ironspawn/32/200497_2.png) [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glornak_Ironspawn)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6133 "2019-07-11T23:12:24Z")
Right. It doesn’t show system population whatsoever. Which is what local is needed for. Without local covert groups will need to do legwork to make sure there’s no response fleets ready for them or counter drops docked and ready nearby. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6134 "2019-07-11T23:12:44Z")
That is still not everything dotlan shows, there are some more hidden stuff in there. But ganktards are surprisingly bad with essential intel tools. ---
**Author:** ![Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glornak_ironspawn/32/200497_2.png) [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glornak_Ironspawn)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6135 "2019-07-11T23:13:31Z")
So rare that it happens more often than not on a weekly basis? Huh. Didn’t know that’s how statistics worked. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6136 "2019-07-11T23:13:32Z")
> [@Yrgrasil](#): > > you are not even providing data with sources, just imaginary values you have in your head. > > I pretend i’m a unicorn sometimes. Doesn’t make it true, but makes me feel better The salt you’re giving by not being able to dismiss my 100% correct claim is hilarious, keep going. ---
**Author:** ![Yrgrasil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yrgrasil/32/267896_2.png) [@Yrgrasil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yrgrasil)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2019, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6137 "2019-07-11T23:14:29Z")
ah right you are also sure that covops is now 100% safe gank, but i increase and say thats 110% not true. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=302) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=304)