# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935 "2019-07-05T16:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 306
**Author:** ![Jenn\_aSide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jenn_aside/32/384682_2.png) [@Jenn\_aSide](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jenn_aSide)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6178 "2019-07-12T00:11:03Z")
Yep. People get like this when they think they are about to win something or when they think someone they dislike is about to get hurt. All those people cheering on dominion sov were so short sighted that they thought they were celebrating goons and the big blocs getting screwed, when in fact they were cheering on so.ething that made goons and the b8g blocks bigger and richer… So telling someone “this will be great for you and bonus, it will screw. over those guys you hate that you blame for you misery” is a potent real world selling tool lol. Its Also stupid. I can’t say this is what will happen, but ive warmed up my laughing muscles just in case… ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Rollin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abe_rollin/32/272864_2.png) [@Abe\_Rollin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abe_Rollin)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6179 "2019-07-12T00:11:43Z")
The “Ganktards” in their systems wont have any targets either, not because they are docked up but because they are using the blackout to their advantage. Really it’s just silly speculation by both of us - you don’t know what will happen - for all you know it will be business as usual and you’re just wasting your time twiddling your thumbs in a station when you could be out carebearing the crap out of some rocks. ---
**Author:** ![Xialis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xialis/32/317767_2.png) [@Xialis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xialis)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6180 "2019-07-12T00:17:47Z")
> [@SuperBurly\_Johnson](#): > > I apologize, but I’m a new capsuleer and only been playing for a few weeks. What does this change do as I’ve seen a lot of yea’s and a lot of na’s? > > Thanks in advance! > > Super Thanks for a good question that gets us back on topic! It makes null more dangerous than high-sec. People that like risks and think null-sec is currently boring and stale applaud the change. I’m one of those who think this change is wonderful. Those that abhor risk and like things just the way they are: safe with easy and accurate intel provided by the local channel, are rather upset. I’m laughing at each of their panicked, “sky is falling”, “Eve will die” “I will unsub” whinge posts. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6181 "2019-07-12T00:19:50Z")
what stage of grief are all the carebaers on right now? i think we’re getting past the bargaining stage ---
**Author:** ![Xialis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xialis/32/317767_2.png) [@Xialis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xialis)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6182 "2019-07-12T00:23:23Z")
Haven’t seen many local restoration structure posts (bargaining 3/5) but an increase in “I’ll unsub” and “I’ll stay docked for the duration” posts so… Depression 4/5 moving towards acceptance 5/5 is my guess. ---
**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6183 "2019-07-12T00:29:13Z")
Damnit, didn’t want to weigh in on this but as both you and Maria\_Dragoon have got it wrong on one very important aspect I feel I have to. There was less than 100 more stealth bombers died in that period than mining barges and exhumers. Difference is - MANY of those stealth bombers would have been lost GANKING defenceless Freighters in highsec. When was the last time you saw a fleet of Mining barges gank a Freighter in highsec? \*I’m not agreeing with Orca in any way but had to point out the error in your “stats” ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6184 "2019-07-12T00:29:15Z")
I dunno, what we’re seeing is split between ‘who cares, light cyno’ and ‘oh, good, I get to boson idiots on gates’. But I haven’t polled the rest of null. ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6185 "2019-07-12T00:35:05Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > ‘oh, good, I get to boson idiots on gates’. Lets pray for “happy accidents” of boson hitting friendly fleet jumping in. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6186 "2019-07-12T00:39:12Z")
I’m hoping he is there bosoning on his own - And I’m in the fleet that cynos in behind him and catches him 😛 NB; Sorry Arrendis but i think that would be so much fun ---
**Author:** ![Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/circumstantial_evidence/32/399551_2.png) [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Circumstantial_Evidence)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 12:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6187 "2019-07-12T00:41:21Z")
Another comment for new readers to the topic - the blackout helps create a little more risk to the main beneficiaries of the right side of this graph. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/7/2731e784d8e286d6dd98723fea8e0f33a6eb8e06.png) ](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/7/2731e784d8e286d6dd98723fea8e0f33a6eb8e06.png) ---
**Author:** ![Xialis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xialis/32/317767_2.png) [@Xialis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xialis)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 12:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6188 "2019-07-12T00:42:38Z")
Those are both acceptance states (5/5), we were talking about where the carebears that dislike the change are on the scale, so either you’ve accepted it at the onset or have progressed through to the final stage. It also seems like you’ve missed a huge number of posts in the thread, but at 6156 posts and counting, that’s understandable. ---
**Author:** ![Iminent\_Penance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iminent_penance/32/145791_2.png) [@Iminent\_Penance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iminent_Penance)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 1:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6189 "2019-07-12T01:01:27Z")
…as opposed to hisec and lowsec ratting… which isnt even a thing? This is like saying “there are MOAR supercapitals in nullsec than WORMHOLES therefore WORMHOLES HOULD BE BUFFED TO GIVE MORE ORE” It’s not even logical. Different areas provide different things, Dumbass ---
**Author:** ![Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glornak_ironspawn/32/200497_2.png) [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glornak_Ironspawn)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6190 "2019-07-12T01:04:28Z")
Gonna need some graphs. Fairly sure the number of them used to gank freighters isn’t that high. Definitely not enough to make up for the barges not killed by bombers. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6191 "2019-07-12T01:09:24Z")
> [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](#): > > Another comment for new readers to the topic - the blackout helps create a little more risk to the main beneficiaries of the right side of this graph. It doesn’t, because they are in a super, ratting under supercap umbrella, and care not for local. All it does is decreasing risk for ganktards to 0%. ---
**Author:** ![Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/circumstantial_evidence/32/399551_2.png) [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Circumstantial_Evidence)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6192 "2019-07-12T01:11:49Z")
You don’t have to call me a dumbass to get me to consider your arguments, and you actually have one. ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Rollin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abe_rollin/32/272864_2.png) [@Abe\_Rollin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abe_Rollin)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6193 "2019-07-12T01:17:55Z")
You shouldn’t call them ganktards - really they are only opportunists picking off the low hanging fruits like you ---
**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 1:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6194 "2019-07-12T01:22:28Z")
That isn’t the comparison I was making but ok - Show me your graphs when you have them… ---
**Author:** ![Iminent\_Penance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iminent_penance/32/145791_2.png) [@Iminent\_Penance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iminent_Penance)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 1:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6195 "2019-07-12T01:30:27Z")
Honestly, fair point. Out of line on my end. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 1:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6196 "2019-07-12T01:42:25Z")
> [@Abe\_Rollin](#): > > You shouldn’t call them ganktards - really they are only opportunists picking off the low hanging fruits like you The low is their game, they won’t be anywhere near me though, because I won’t log in, and neither will anyone else who actually knows his corn. ---
**Author:** ![Maria\_Dragoon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maria_dragoon/32/176816_2.png) [@Maria\_Dragoon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maria_Dragoon)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6197 "2019-07-12T02:10:39Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > because I won’t log in, Man, that sounds like a boring eve experience. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=305) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=307)