# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935 "2019-07-05T16:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 313
**Author:** ![Kapitan\_Sparrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kapitan_sparrow/32/147757_2.png) [@Kapitan\_Sparrow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kapitan_Sparrow)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6318 "2019-07-12T06:30:10Z")
Unsuscribed 2 acc, I am most PVE player and dont like this! ---
**Author:** ![Orob\_Ninebands](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orob_ninebands/32/147732_2.png) [@Orob\_Ninebands](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orob_Ninebands)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6319 "2019-07-12T06:34:53Z")
Being a crap pvper is not the same as not understanding the game. Nice non-use of your brain. what a douche. ---
**Author:** ![plexbichest\_bitchester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/plexbichest_bitchester/32/147493_2.png) [@plexbichest\_bitchester](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/plexbichest_bitchester)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6320 "2019-07-12T06:58:28Z")
Yet the ingame map telling the shitty “pvp” groups who can only hunt the vulnerable remain. Buttercup. Poir didduns did you need big ccp to come hand you a handicap to hunt? If you wanted a fight there’s very publically known staging citadels you can siege any week and get your fights But… you don’t want that… do you? ---
**Author:** ![Rose\_Ohmiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rose_ohmiras/32/174760_2.png) [@Rose\_Ohmiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rose_Ohmiras)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6321 "2019-07-12T07:22:56Z")
Please, all people who leaving EVE send you isk to me. and don’t forget biomass you chars after that. ---
**Author:** ![Kalpel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalpel/32/186678_2.png) [@Kalpel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalpel)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6322 "2019-07-12T07:24:25Z")
> [@Sphinxx](#): > > Wow, I didn’t know you can tell my whole game history from zkillboard. First, I took a long vacation and have returned in recent months; second, I said nothing about pvp, corp play or fighting, i said I roam solo and didn’t mention I spend most of my time exploring and some time running missions. I didn’t make claims, I just said that nullsec is supposed to be dangerous. Try reading my post again, maybe slower this time. You clearly said and I quote “Null is supposed to be dangerous bro, i roam null solo, too.” Roam would imply that you hunt other players and solo would mean you do so by yourself!" nobody says let’s go on a roam for PVE targets! … now that we know the truth here that you solo Nullsec in your cloaky Astero doing carebear %$#& hoping you never get caught by PVP players we can disregard any advice you may have on Nullsec life! and those who choose to stay or leave it! ---
**Author:** ![FunGu\_Arsten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fungu_arsten/32/140752_2.png) [@FunGu\_Arsten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FunGu_Arsten)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6323 "2019-07-12T07:42:45Z")
“la burn” ---
**Author:** ![Xolanie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xolanie/32/145657_2.png) [@Xolanie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xolanie)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6324 "2019-07-12T07:50:26Z")
That’s actually not a bad idea, I’d be better off buying PLEX with the sub money instead 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sana\_Yamada](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sana_yamada/32/377691_2.png) [@Sana\_Yamada](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sana_Yamada)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6325 "2019-07-12T07:50:59Z")
So the players that abide by the rules have to suffer for the BOTS , nope I pay my Subs and this was a chicken ■■■■ excuse to crap on everyone and when the smoke or blackout is lifted you all think this will help you so called Cry baby hunters, as I have said in numerous posts I know people that went out every day and killed things, why is it you feel you can only do better in a blackout, ---
**Author:** ![Litsea\_Reticulata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/litsea_reticulata/32/328016_2.png) [@Litsea\_Reticulata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Litsea_Reticulata)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6326 "2019-07-12T07:54:24Z")
> [@Orob\_Ninebands](#): > > It takes skills and effort to operate in that environment. Woosh… ---
**Author:** ![Kalpel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalpel/32/186678_2.png) [@Kalpel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalpel)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6327 "2019-07-12T08:07:35Z")
> [@Sana\_Yamada](#): > > So the players that abide by the rules have to suffer for the BOTS , nope I pay my Subs and this was a chicken ■■■■ excuse to crap on everyone and when the smoke or blackout is lifted you all think this will help you so called Cry baby hunters, as I have said in numerous posts I know people that went out every day and killed things, why is it you feel you can only do better in a blackout, Very well said Sana Yamada, and I like you had no problem finding gf’s daily! this blackout + drifters, OP AF drifters did me in ( they never killed me) but until I can fly a station around the system to kill them I have no interest in feeding CCP $$$ because these drifters aren’t normal NPC’s with normal damage ---
**Author:** ![Imdyna\_Narestar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imdyna_narestar/32/267002_2.png) [@Imdyna\_Narestar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Imdyna_Narestar)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6328 "2019-07-12T08:11:40Z")
Wonder what all this “lol yes! null is too safe!” WH guys would say if cynos and covert cynos would work in WH space. Null has a chat. Right, but calling null safe because of that is a bit … well … The dif is, that to null you can get very easily, have cynos ready bla. You can very spontaniously say “lets roam today in XXX”, gather your buddies and off you go. Try that in WH. P.S: needless to say that imho this change is absolutly stupid. Especially for small corps. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6329 "2019-07-12T08:17:03Z")
> [@Kalpel](#): > > until I can fly a station around the system to kill them I have no interest Typical bear mentality, just crying for a bigger tankier blingier ship. ---
**Author:** ![Sana\_Yamada](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sana_yamada/32/377691_2.png) [@Sana\_Yamada](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sana_Yamada)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6330 "2019-07-12T08:18:53Z")
Well I will tell you when drifters first came out we learned to kill them and they got angry , we used Rokh’s and extreme sniping for once I thought hey here is a good use for this ship but then they made there DD weapon have unlimited range. That is still bull how do you fight something that will usually always kill you now its forced to someone drank to much at work that day. I mever said I was the one wanting the blackout , I never said I overly PVP look at my post again , what I said was to make a point, no matter when you undock from EVE your a target. SOmetimes you can avoid the hunter other times he gets you , what I’am sick of people that have to rely on a blackout to PVP more effectively. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6331 "2019-07-12T08:25:53Z")
1. Null Drifters haven’t been having their DD. 2. There are multiple ways to fight Drifters without dying. 3. “Have to rely on”? Stop being silly, obviously it’s a tool, some people will benefit, some people will lose as a result, but have to rely on is a silly statement. > [@Kalpel](#): > > these drifters aren’t normal NPC’s with normal damage Drifters have damage comparable to a player battleship, range comparable as well, no DD in null atm, far weaker tank than a fleet BS, no active reps. Just because they aren’t ten times weaker than you. ---
**Author:** ![Vazqez\_McLoud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vazqez_mcloud/32/124477_2.png) [@Vazqez\_McLoud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vazqez_McLoud)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6332 "2019-07-12T08:46:02Z")
> [@Sgt\_Ocker](#): > > Funny you know but sadly this change is likely to just fizzle out with no REAL change. > The biggest deterrent that stops people (large groups) fighting is the fear of losing. > Removing local ISN’T going to change that, all it will do is see smaller groups punished by small groups of lete PVPr’s while the bloks continue on and get richer of yet another poor decision by CCP… > > If CCP were serious about asset destruction there are better ways to force it - While the largest groups in the game can do what they do with near complete safety - The game is going to stay stagnant - WWB needs to find a way back, there are enough rich ass players out there to fund it - Just do it. Everybody dies - Everybody spends isk - Everybody wins, Even the losers. Everyone is crying or enjoying themselves. Aikt did not give a solution to this problem. And the solution exists and it is not difficult to introduce. And it does not matter if the local is there or not. It is necessary to introduce the possibility of renting CONCORD for protection. No matter where you are, CONCORD vedzie protected you at (0.5) Protection should be limited to 1 solar system. According to rule 1, you pay for one system. If someone wants to kill you there without intervening, CONCORD must declare war The amount of the fee for protection should be adequate to the number of accounts in the corporation. The more accounts, the greater the fee. Price 100 million isk per account. Protection period 7 days ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6333 "2019-07-12T08:50:30Z")
> [@Vazqez\_McLoud](#): > > It is necessary to introduce the possibility of renting CONCORD for protection. If you don’t follow the CODE, no amount of CONCORD will save you! ---
**Author:** ![Vazqez\_McLoud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vazqez_mcloud/32/124477_2.png) [@Vazqez\_McLoud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vazqez_McLoud)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6334 "2019-07-12T08:52:54Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > > It is necessary to introduce the possibility of renting CONCORD for protection. > > If you don’t follow the CODE, no amount of CONCORD will save you! read first. then understand. draw conclusions. At the end, write something wise ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6335 "2019-07-12T08:53:26Z")
Silly bear, you need to come back to high sec. I’ll keep you safe. My fee is only 10 million isk per year. ---
**Author:** ![Vazqez\_McLoud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vazqez_mcloud/32/124477_2.png) [@Vazqez\_McLoud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vazqez_McLoud)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6336 "2019-07-12T08:57:19Z")
remark irrelevant. usually bragging ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6337 "2019-07-12T09:00:26Z")
So many sad carebears in this thread. You can really see how dependent they were on an automated system telling them to dock up and switch accounts whenever someone was in 4 jumps of them. Did you idiots think CCP would never notice or do anything about it? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=312) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=314)