# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** official, feedback\ **Created:** [July 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935 "2019-07-05T16:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 342
**Author:** ![Litsea\_Reticulata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/litsea_reticulata/32/328016_2.png) [@Litsea\_Reticulata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Litsea_Reticulata)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6902 "2019-07-12T17:35:24Z")
> [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](#): > > It’s not a mythical intel tool like you incorrectly think it is. It is if used right. ---
**Author:** ![Jita\_Shakiel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jita_shakiel/32/141955_2.png) [@Jita\_Shakiel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jita_Shakiel)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6903 "2019-07-12T17:35:47Z")
They have been sold already … ---
**Author:** ![Baaldor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/baaldor/32/461993_2.png) [@Baaldor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Baaldor)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6904 "2019-07-12T17:35:51Z")
bahahaha you have no business in NULL hahahahahaha. or this game actually if yo cant figure out the game play. ---
**Author:** ![AnatanD\_Airin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anatand_airin/32/383830_2.png) [@AnatanD\_Airin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AnatanD_Airin)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6905 "2019-07-12T17:35:58Z")
I wonder what we agreed with? ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6906 "2019-07-12T17:36:21Z")
> [@Maria\_Dragoon](#): > > when the logistical of the otherside surpasses 15 bombers, the other side has declared unofficial war upon you good sir. Or it’s just Bombers’ Bar, yoloing around with 80-100 bombers from all over the game. ---
**Author:** ![Jita\_Shakiel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jita_shakiel/32/141955_2.png) [@Jita\_Shakiel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jita_Shakiel)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6907 "2019-07-12T17:36:57Z")
We agree that we’re gay. ---
**Author:** ![AnatanD\_Airin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anatand_airin/32/383830_2.png) [@AnatanD\_Airin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AnatanD_Airin)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6908 "2019-07-12T17:38:26Z")
And what the hell is the difference, unofficial or official war, if I lose a ship that costs my game in half a year? ---
**Author:** ![Maria\_Dragoon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maria_dragoon/32/176816_2.png) [@Maria\_Dragoon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maria_Dragoon)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6909 "2019-07-12T17:38:28Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Or it’s just Bombers’ Bar, yoloing around with 80-100 bombers from all over the game. Yeah, I count them, like I count faction warfare peeps. They are basically an ingame version of a natural disaster =p (No insult intended, they keep people on their toes) ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6910 "2019-07-12T17:39:23Z")
> [@Liandri\_Acami](#): > > You accept that by mining in 0.0 there are threats and risks the the mining barge you’re flying. Always did. As if it was EVER safe. > [@Liandri\_Acami](#): > > Knowing your options Know them all, none stop the covert cyno risk-free skill-free effort-free ganktarding. > [@Liandri\_Acami](#): > > find a way to defend yourself by having a fleet We have been over this 100 times already. If it’s not 100% safe, ganktards don’t jump, and you’re just sitting there getting peanuts. If it’s 100% safe, your fleet is irrelevant, as it can’t save your ship nor it can catch any risk-averse chicken ganktards. > [@Liandri\_Acami](#): > > accepting an amount of loss Some amount of loss is inevitable, what I am not willing to accept is how this change was made, and how incredibly safe nullsec becomes for ganktards, who cried at 99% safety before and given 100% safety now. I am not undocking into a nullsec like this, safe for people who don’t even live there, and I’m not paying for it. > [@Liandri\_Acami](#): > > going back to high sec where you can see the ganks coming and can’t do anything about them because they are protected by concord until they fire, at which moment the gank is pretty much guaranteed. No thanks, that was why I left hisec in the first place, into a space where such cowardice was not the norm… until now. ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6911 "2019-07-12T17:41:18Z")
> [@Litsea\_Reticulata](#): > > It is if used right. Been telling him that for a while now, but he does not get it, even when being told which buttons to press and how to read. > [@Baaldor](#): > > you have no business in NULL Then neither is any risk-averse ganktard who only subbed for 100% safety I never had. You can remove me after you remove them. If you dare, chicken. ---
**Author:** ![Lee\_Longpigmen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lee_longpigmen/32/357332_2.png) [@Lee\_Longpigmen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lee_Longpigmen)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6912 "2019-07-12T17:42:07Z")
Bye bye ---
**Author:** ![plexbichest\_bitchester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/plexbichest_bitchester/32/147493_2.png) [@plexbichest\_bitchester](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/plexbichest_bitchester)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6913 "2019-07-12T17:43:12Z")
Have you been paying attention? If it hurt the hunters they wouldn’t have spammed the forums and reddit and everywhere with “YAYYYY FREE KRAB KILLS HERE I COME KEABS HAHAHAHA IT ISNT SAFE FOR YOU” Clearly, you are joking when you say it “affects them too” because they are VERY loudly and proudly proclaiming how this benefits them. ---
**Author:** ![Lee\_Longpigmen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lee_longpigmen/32/357332_2.png) [@Lee\_Longpigmen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lee_Longpigmen)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6914 "2019-07-12T17:43:55Z")
Dude you will be missed bye bye ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Spirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/machine_spirit/32/147936_2.png) [@Machine\_Spirit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Machine_Spirit)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6915 "2019-07-12T17:44:39Z")
Thanks to the CCP for their armlessness! For the disorderly attitude towards the players !!! For a long time I have not seen such “stupid and paid for” ideas !!! Just merge all the NULL !!! If it were a brain, then the developer should have banned the capture of systems … And this is a purely paid share of capturing NULL! If it were not for the responsibility to the players of the corporation, I would go offline and forget about this “slag” for a long time! ---
**Author:** ![Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glornak_ironspawn/32/200497_2.png) [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glornak_Ironspawn)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6916 "2019-07-12T17:44:43Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > Ok, tell me. You have 3 recons sitting cloaked as a super effective way to deal with anything. Cloaked recons? What the hell are you talking about. They’re Dscan immune. They just sit there uncloaked cause hunters can’t use probes without revealing themselves. > [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > Actually, 4, but one is asleep after 5 hours of incredibly fun gameplay of watching a barge. Not my fault your alliance sucks at baiting. If there’s no hunters in the area you don’t need protection. If there are then you get guys to use you as bait. Pretty simple. Hunters can easily be spotted as they move between your systems. > [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > cyno lights up, 10-150 bombers bombers appear, your barge is instapopped At that point the hunters are completely wasting their time and frankly deserve the crappy kill. In real life though 10 bombers is the realistic amount someone will drop on a barge/exumer cause theres no point in risking more to a however unlikely trap. > [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > Answer seriously for once: How would you deal with it? Seriously? 150 bombers on a single barge doesn’t happen. Maybe maybe 150 if they’re dropping on a dozen or two barges at the same time. If we’re being serious there’s 10 or so. In which case the Force Recon(s) just off grid warp in and decimate the bombers. If your not part of a trap and you got caught by more than several bombers you should be dead in a mining ship. No ifs ands or buts. ---
**Author:** ![Kenada686](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kenada686/32/146863_2.png) [@Kenada686](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kenada686)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6917 "2019-07-12T17:47:18Z")
And suddenly SOOOO MANY PPL HAVE SOOOO MANY ACCOUNTS PLS STOP THE POLAR CAPS ARE MELTING BECAUSE SO MUCH SALT IN THE WATER! ---
**Author:** ![Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glornak_ironspawn/32/200497_2.png) [@Glornak\_Ironspawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glornak_Ironspawn)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6918 "2019-07-12T17:47:21Z")
Not at all. It can be used to guess the fitting of another person and know what died in an area in the past which is surely useful. HE claims it’s an omnipotent tool that will show how many people are in space at all times and if they are PvE or PvP. ---
**Author:** ![Liandri\_Acami](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/liandri_acami/32/147869_2.png) [@Liandri\_Acami](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Liandri_Acami)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6919 "2019-07-12T17:47:28Z")
A ratter sees a nuet in local. He docks instantly knowing exactly where his citadel is… The Hunter enters local. Has 1/x change of hitting the correct anom and another chance that the ratter has already left when he lands. No local forces the ratter to use less perfect information. The hunter still has to do the same thing… End result. The hunter gets a few extra times where the ratter doesnt see him coming… More if the ratter is AFK drone ratting in a VNI. PVPers are celebrating because finally the difference in intel tools by the attacker and defender have been brought closer together. ---
**Author:** ![Maria\_Dragoon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maria_dragoon/32/176816_2.png) [@Maria\_Dragoon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maria_Dragoon)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6920 "2019-07-12T17:48:01Z")
> [@plexbichest\_bitchester](#): > > If it hurt the hunters they wouldn’t have spammed the forums and reddit and everywhere with “YAYYYY FREE KRAB KILLS HERE I COME KEABS HAHAHAHA IT ISNT SAFE FOR YOU” The only ones that have been really saying that, are either memers, who are loving the reaction you are giving…And the ‘pvers’ who are conjuring up an false reality. Most people who are excited for this are looking forward for null sec being shook up, and new opportunities for them to make isk, be it stealing it from the big blocks, are destroying those that are completely unwilling to adapt to the situation. Also, I am sure you will find that a good chunk of PVPers (The ones you call ganktards) will be destroyed as factions start to set up stronger gate camps in their high profit systems. Also it gives a glimmer of hope for medium alliances who want to kill some Player own structures without one of the large blocks memeing them out of existence because ‘Hey guys, there some reds/neuts in this system, lets kill them.’ ---
**Author:** ![Lee\_Longpigmen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lee_longpigmen/32/357332_2.png) [@Lee\_Longpigmen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lee_Longpigmen)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/6921 "2019-07-12T17:48:22Z")
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