# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935 "2019-07-05T16:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 400
**Author:** ![Maria\_Dragoon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maria_dragoon/32/176816_2.png) [@Maria\_Dragoon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maria_Dragoon)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 2:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/8084 "2019-07-14T02:21:04Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > see above, already answered on that one. Insults don’t count as an answer; have you quit yet? ---
**Author:** ![Crockett\_Manning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/crockett_manning/32/272906_2.png) [@Crockett\_Manning](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Crockett_Manning)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 2:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/8085 "2019-07-14T02:24:29Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > Just because you’re terrible at your game doesn’t mean everyone else is What is wrong with you? Why do you feel the need to insult people? ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 2:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/8086 "2019-07-14T02:26:20Z")
> [@Maria\_Dragoon](#): > > Insults don’t count as an answer; have you quit yet? Until this nonsense is over, I’m not gonna log in. If CCP thinks it was a good idea, I’m not paying to stupids. If we get things done right, like CCP apology, then I’m back. > [@Crockett\_Manning](#): > > What is wrong with you? Why do you feel the need to insult people? Maybe because it hurts them, and pain is very educational. God be my witness, some of them were in dire need of both education and pain. ---
**Author:** ![Ophelia\_Dallocort](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ophelia_dallocort/32/138260_2.png) [@Ophelia\_Dallocort](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ophelia_Dallocort)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 2:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/8087 "2019-07-14T02:26:35Z")
I’m from Louisiana; we also play eve. ---
**Author:** ![Maria\_Dragoon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maria_dragoon/32/176816_2.png) [@Maria\_Dragoon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maria_Dragoon)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 2:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/8088 "2019-07-14T02:27:00Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > Until this nonsense is over, I’m not gonna log in. Bye, literally no one will miss you. ---
**Author:** ![Haulie\_Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haulie_berry/32/388021_2.png) [@Haulie\_Berry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haulie_Berry)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/8090 "2019-07-14T02:29:38Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > And yet that’s what ganktards require from people in nullsec to “keep themselves safe”. I’m… pretty sure nobody has said that at all? Lots of people have given you just as many suggestions for remaining safe. The problem is, they don’t provide 100% safety, and any possibility of losing a ship is unacceptable to you, so you reject them out of hand because even if you do them, you still _might_ die in certain circumstances. Meanwhile, there are a _lot_ of people out in nullsec gainfully krabbing _right now_, despite the seeming impossibility of doing so without local. It’s true! And by virtue of the fact that people are doing it, we know it’s possible to do. So that being the case, one might get the idea that possibly, perhaps, the thing that is most holding you back is the fact that you’re… you. ---
**Author:** ![Crockett\_Manning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/crockett_manning/32/272906_2.png) [@Crockett\_Manning](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Crockett_Manning)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/8091 "2019-07-14T02:29:41Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > education and pain you are truly a narcissist, no one cares about your “pain” inflicted within a video game forum. This is a first world problem if I ever saw one. The niche of a niche. This is so insignificant of a problem that your tears fall silent in the void of your login absence. ---
**Author:** ![Maria\_Dragoon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maria_dragoon/32/176816_2.png) [@Maria\_Dragoon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maria_Dragoon)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/8092 "2019-07-14T02:35:29Z")
> [@Crockett\_Manning](#): > > no one cares about your “pain” inflicted within a video game forum. No no, he right on the money. Every time I read one of his posts…I literally feel my brain cells die. ---
**Author:** ![Zeta\_Trild](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zeta_trild/32/145975_2.png) [@Zeta\_Trild](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zeta_Trild)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 2:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/8093 "2019-07-14T02:44:49Z")
Конченые дебилы! ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/8095 "2019-07-14T02:53:29Z")
> [@Crockett\_Manning](#): > > you are truly a narcissist, no one cares about your “pain” inflicted within a video game forum. This is a first world problem if I ever saw one. The niche of a niche. This is so insignificant of a problem that your tears fall silent in the void of your login absence. See, you’re trying that too, but meh, will take you years to get on my level. Also, them not caring is factually wrong, they are desperate to defend their little crutch mechanics, and feel threatened by its disappearance in the near future, to the point where they are ready to jump in fear on anyone endangering it. One might say they are asking to be hurt… ---
**Author:** ![Mojira](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mojira/32/148321_2.png) [@Mojira](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mojira)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 3:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/8098 "2019-07-14T03:05:50Z")
First time posting, I took a 9 year break and back, finally moved to null about 3 weeks ago and all this happened lol. I’m glad for the enthusiasm going on with the changes. I like to pve, mine and industry. I’m glad ccp is trying new stuff out. I only have 1 acct and have tons of fun regardless. I don’t bot or use near2 and used intel channel to try and be safe. This just happened and need to give it more time. I’m still playing cuz I like the game a lot and glad people are having fun even if it’s not my style of play. Plenty to do in eve and there’s too much butthurt over just a game. Let’s see what happens, I’m glad that null has more excitement atm even if it’s not how I play. So many arguments are cyclical at this point and let’s go have fun and get blown up or blow others up but damn lighten up… anyways no salt from me and honestly I just had a 6b lesson”from one of the nicest guys I’ve met in the game recently… if this game is making you this upset maybe go outside , read a book or play something else. Hope everyone has fun and lightens up. o7 cya in space! (Sorry to ppl who like salt, I don’t have any for ya!) Ps I was just trying to post and not reply to anyone specifically ---
**Author:** ![DRIFTER\_FEDERATION](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drifter_federation/32/243323_2.png) [@DRIFTER\_FEDERATION](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DRIFTER_FEDERATION)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 3:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/8100 "2019-07-14T03:15:07Z")
change the game unexpectedly without posting release notes. players unsub some resub some dont like it ( most from reading so far ) high sec in game queries resulted in we are in high sec we are not effected by this change an now all the random players whom would never make it into null arrive for the first time in null without experience. The sandbox is operated by people an therefore each to their own is the content desired, I pvp for 4 an half hours today in null an it was really a very lazy experience for without local random neutrals were coming through the star gates as if the flood gates opened up. Too easy… Now later in the evetime of the gameplay there is no one around other than the same typical roamers we seen when local worked as it was before the blackout… The blackout changed nothing in null. What players that are not fond of the null blackout is how CCP breaks the trust of the players for the payment of the services an goods with all the NPC Overkill AI it is for some players who are not able to sit at a PC 24/7 cycles an only play video games do not have the free time to be this involved in a forced type of content. I am uneffected by the blackout myself as a player in eve however when a group of my friends in eve simply unsubbed will not log in which are 16 years into the game as myself live in null for a very long time the enjoyment level of experience then have also changed. Not for nor against the change however it have made PVP in null way too easy. sat on a gate with bubbles for 4.5 hours on a choke point in the game an then landed many kills over an over an over. not much of a challenge. take it or leave it… CCP have created an even greater level of content item called TIMEWASTER TECH III no real complaints here have an objective point of view all players in eve are a part of the game which creates the environment of the sandbox again there is not a right wrong within the sandbox of eve. the blackout is like using dialup internet to connect to a high-speed multiplayer game… very slow an mind numbing also note that after 4.5 hours there was nothing left for 1 hour of waiting. then 3 hours later nothing happened. blackout rating negative 5 stars… ---
**Author:** ![Ophelia\_Dallocort](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ophelia_dallocort/32/138260_2.png) [@Ophelia\_Dallocort](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ophelia_Dallocort)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 3:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/8102 "2019-07-14T03:37:13Z")
that translates to “F\*ck you” ---
**Author:** ![MagnumP\_Eye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/magnump_eye/32/148323_2.png) [@MagnumP\_Eye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MagnumP_Eye)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 3:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/8103 "2019-07-14T03:38:21Z")
It’s not a complete blackout, the in-game map still shows pilots in space in the past 30 minutes, ships destroyed, jumps, etc. So if you log in and see pilots in the past 30 minutes, it may give you pause if you are trying to avoid a spanking 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 3:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/8105 "2019-07-14T03:47:47Z")
When you look at those reports - 1. Did you happen to pay attention to “where” the wealth is constantly being amassed? 2. In all honesty do you think for one second the blackout is going to change that for the better OR worse? Yes there is far too much isk being made/hoarded in the game BUT this change will have little to no affect on the group/s that have it. What it will do is help them to further solidify their holding on everything Eve - How the poor old developer who thought this up wasn’t made aware of it by the economic team is beyond me. Of course there is also the age old conspiracy theory - Mittens runs Eve and controls development hence another change that can only benefit Goons. ---
**Author:** ![Zeta\_Trild](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zeta_trild/32/145975_2.png) [@Zeta\_Trild](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zeta_Trild)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 3:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/8106 "2019-07-14T03:51:06Z")
Yep о7 ---
**Author:** ![Ezeliek\_forever](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ezeliek_forever/32/148329_2.png) [@Ezeliek\_forever](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ezeliek_forever)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/8107 "2019-07-14T04:22:44Z")
I do not like. I’m not paying any more. ---
**Author:** ![AnatanD\_Airin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anatand_airin/32/383830_2.png) [@AnatanD\_Airin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AnatanD_Airin)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 4:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/8108 "2019-07-14T04:38:35Z")
I read a lot here about the fact that Intel is a prog that players should not have initially used and it undermines the atmosphericity of the game. Then what the hell is there data on the killing of NPS by systems and their number? In a region where players must initially be present? Do you want atmospheric? Kill this cheat program and fly across the galaxy, looking for their victims. ---
**Author:** ![AnatanD\_Airin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anatand_airin/32/383830_2.png) [@AnatanD\_Airin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AnatanD_Airin)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 4:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/8109 "2019-07-14T04:42:31Z")
I would introduce to increase the fan pvp event of disconnecting Concorde in the empire for a certain period. He also introduced structures that are installed in wormholes leading to VH, which increased the ship’s permeability both in mass and in size. Such a wormhole cannot be closed until it closes by itself. ---
**Author:** ![AnLann\_Imeal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anlann_imeal/32/439942_2.png) [@AnLann\_Imeal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AnLann_Imeal)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 4:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/8110 "2019-07-14T04:43:07Z")
I’m sure that this has been stated over and over “If I wanted to live in a wormhole I would have moved to one”. Leave Nul local alone because there is a place for people who like a blacked out local. Nul needs more work on things like sov mechanics and clokie camper detection to build content and stop chasing off new people. There are plenty of PVPrs who have the skills to kill hard core ratters and Rorqs that can’t run. I feel this change will only stroke the plex market on the company side and cripple the ability for already paying new and old players to make isk and pvp in the few hours a day that they have time to play. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=399) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=401)