# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935 "2019-07-05T16:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 513
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 12:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/10432 "2019-07-13T00:37:20Z")
It’s rumoured that the Chinese refer to things like this as interesting times. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/10433 "2019-07-13T03:12:02Z")
> [@NULL SEC = WORMHOLES](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-sec-wormholes/174442/1): > > i dont plex my accounts When someone says something like this they reveal that they don’t understand the very basic concept of how CCP gets real money from eve players PLEXing their accounts (and actually more than a sub) and often think that they are somehow morally superior. …Happens so surprisingly often yet always strange… [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/4/3/64315bfd630c23986021bb1f2e81d648c000ca30.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/removed.png) ---
**Author:** ![Loki\_Orkund](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loki_orkund/32/146159_2.png) [@Loki\_Orkund](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loki_Orkund)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 4:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/10434 "2019-07-13T04:51:06Z")
> this move only beneifits gankers, no body else Even if this were true, so what? PvP is just as legitimate a role as mining or anything else. Eve is perhaps the only MMO which was designed to have unsolicited PvP be a legitimate role. Nullsec was always supposed to be the most dangerous space. It should have had ‘opt-in local’ from the start. You’ve been getting nullsec rewards in the equivalent of hisec space. You’re lucky CCP aren’t taking two-thirds of your ISK away. But it’s not true that it only benefits gankers. The safety of nullsec is part of the reason there are too many Titans, Keepstars et al. It’s a big reason that the game has inflation. I agree that CCP should look to allow smaller nullsec corps to compete. Somebody must have made a decent suggestion in the last decade or so? ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/10435 "2019-07-13T05:28:49Z")
> [@NULL SEC = WORMHOLES](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-sec-wormholes/174442/12): > > Null was dangerou, and players cooparated t make it safe. Local fascilitated this cooperation. Dscan might work in empty systems (something null will soon be too), but in busy systems since you cant separate friend from foe. Players can still co-operate they just need to pay more attention. If you can’t identify friend form foe that is your issue there are ways around that. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/10436 "2019-07-13T06:19:29Z")
> [@NULL SEC = WORMHOLES](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-sec-wormholes/174442/1): > > Star Citzen is looking very good 🤣🤣🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/10437 "2019-07-13T06:54:10Z")
> [@NULL SEC = WORMHOLES](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-sec-wormholes/174442/1): > > have treid worm holes didnt like They aren’t for everyone. > [@NULL SEC = WORMHOLES](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-sec-wormholes/174442/1): > > but CCP if u check i unsubbed 3 paid accounts, They did. Straight away. They’re all very upset. > [@NULL SEC = WORMHOLES](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-sec-wormholes/174442/1): > > i dodnt think u can comprehend which equals why u are a ganker. ![RHrLj-1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/8/78186c3d752e00edee3609bcfed5301aaec35435.png) > [@NULL SEC = WORMHOLES](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-sec-wormholes/174442/1): > > not enough null space Amazing considering there are supposedly fewer players now… but space hasn’t shrunk. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/10438 "2019-07-13T07:26:09Z")
> [@NULL SEC = WORMHOLES](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-sec-wormholes/174442/1): > > Star Citzen is looking very good well yeh i suppose it ‘‘looks good’’… but thats about it… ---
**Author:** ![Soldier\_Forrester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/soldier_forrester/32/404576_2.png) [@Soldier\_Forrester](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Soldier_Forrester)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/10439 "2019-07-13T08:26:49Z")
you have multiple accounts but are incapable of positioning one on the entrance of your pocket as your eyes, so you can continue crabbing in complete savety? adapt or die ---
**Author:** ![WinterTrap](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wintertrap/32/148096_2.png) [@WinterTrap](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/WinterTrap)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/10440 "2019-07-13T08:47:49Z")
It is a pity, but it is not possible to play now. See all you in Star Citizen ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/10441 "2019-07-13T08:52:29Z")
Lots of hand holding SC…enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![Videles\_Silenthunter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/videles_silenthunter/32/474024_2.png) [@Videles\_Silenthunter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Videles_Silenthunter)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/10442 "2019-07-13T08:52:56Z")
> [@NULL SEC = WORMHOLES](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-sec-wormholes/174442/14): > > ave a ton of people in the system, but you can’t tell who are good guys or Looking at the 24.5k players peak and the 28k peak before blackout, it seems more people are unsubbing or not logging then do. I think all these nerfs and chages are bad and are a lack of creative ideas. I’m just plexing instead of paying for my two accounts. I did play in wormholes and i liked it. But null already has tons of different dangers looming no need to make that even worse. For me its eve survival of the fittest now. I like it, you seem to like it but be fair not everyone will like this and if people quitte you also have less people to hunt. ---
**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/10443 "2019-07-13T09:08:22Z")
> [@NULL SEC = WORMHOLES](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-sec-wormholes/174442/27): > > > [@NULL SEC = WORMHOLES](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-sec-wormholes/174442/1): > > > > but CCP if u check i unsubbed 3 paid accounts, > > They did. Straight away. They’re all very upset. Thank you for that - sums-up the self-deluding _“take that CCP, you’ll die without me”_ crowd perfectly - Bravo ! 👏 ---
**Author:** ![Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abruzzi_oskold/32/279259_2.png) [@Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abruzzi_Oskold)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/10444 "2019-07-13T18:39:25Z")
Its amazing how much HTFU comments you see about Hi Sec players from **some portions** of the player base, yet when something like this happens they all fall silent. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/10445 "2019-07-13T18:57:34Z")
> [@NULL SEC = WORMHOLES](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-sec-wormholes/174442/30): > > See all you in Star Citizen No, you wont. ---
**Author:** ![Agondray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agondray/32/414989_2.png) [@Agondray](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agondray)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/10446 "2019-07-13T19:08:25Z")
> [@NULL SEC = WORMHOLES](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-sec-wormholes/174442/1): > > Star Citzen is looking very good, thats not even out yet or near being out, maybe by 2030 we will have another space game. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/10447 "2019-07-13T21:07:31Z")
> [@NULL SEC = WORMHOLES](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-sec-wormholes/174442/36): > > maybe by 2130 FTFY. ---
**Author:** ![zander\_exvirus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zander_exvirus/32/189470_2.png) [@zander\_exvirus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zander_exvirus)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/10448 "2019-07-13T21:30:26Z")
The real question is can I have your stuff? ---
**Author:** ![DunDaDun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dundadun/32/149377_2.png) [@DunDaDun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DunDaDun)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/10449 "2019-07-18T13:27:24Z")
I love how this makes you all cry… “waaah… they took away my easy ‘iwin’ button… waaaah” …It’s a good change. ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Falcon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_falcon/32/143229_2.png) [@CCP\_Falcon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Falcon)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/10450 "2019-07-18T19:54:43Z")
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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/10451 "2019-07-18T19:54:43Z")
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