# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935>\
**Category:** Announcements\
**Tags:** feedback, official\
**Created:** [July 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935 "2019-07-05T16:28:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 79

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**Author:** ![Iron\_Breaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iron_breaker/32/506683_2.png) [@Iron\_Breaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iron_Breaker)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1587 "2019-07-05T22:30:17Z")

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Sounds like just another reason to stay in High Sec…

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**Author:** ![jaros\_mantra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaros_mantra/32/411367_2.png) [@jaros\_mantra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/jaros_mantra)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1588 "2019-07-05T22:30:24Z")

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Which brings CCP’s overall goal of this increased sales of PLEX

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**Author:** ![Loutro\_Fift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loutro_fift/32/195473_2.png) [@Loutro\_Fift](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loutro_Fift)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1589 "2019-07-05T22:30:42Z")

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> [@Etil\_DeLaFuente](#):
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> Interesting to see how many players are complaining that EvE needs more people and at the same time, laugh at people saying they quit because of this change. 👏
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> EvE will be even harder without local unless a proper change to D-Scan is done. It might have a bad effect on new players in the long term.

Brand new players will adapt if they never saw chat in null. In fact everyone who has half a brain can adapt. The others never knew how to play in the first place. Adapt or die…Darwinism at its core. Good stuff

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**Author:** ![Ailok\_Konem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ailok_konem/32/322411_2.png) [@Ailok\_Konem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ailok_Konem)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1590 "2019-07-05T22:30:45Z")

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No its not

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**Author:** ![addelee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/addelee/32/509654_2.png) [@addelee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/addelee)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1591 "2019-07-05T22:31:08Z")

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People loving this change should probably be careful what they wish for. Most will never have lived in null and think it doesn’t effect them.

If null doesn’t exist in the numbers that populate it now, who’s supplying you’re moon goo, your t2 BPC’s, your salvage for rigs, the rare minerals needed and buying your ships on mass?

This isn’t tears, I do exploration so local doesn’t effect me, but just be really careful what you wish for.

This is CCP basically not knowing how to solve a botting problem. Just like the time they didn’t know how to keep players so started selling SP for real money.

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**Author:** ![Malou\_Hashur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malou_hashur/32/394190_2.png) [@Malou\_Hashur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malou_Hashur)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1592 "2019-07-05T22:31:26Z")

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That would imply that CCP have a grain of common sense.

So.………

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1594 "2019-07-05T22:33:06Z")

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C.O.D.E. will love that! o7

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**Author:** ![Etil\_DeLaFuente](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etil_delafuente/32/130895_2.png) [@Etil\_DeLaFuente](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etil_DeLaFuente)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1595 "2019-07-05T22:35:35Z")

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You’re failing to see my point, actual players will adapt, new players won’t stay because Eve will be too hard for them. Unless of course they just buy/sell plex to fund their pvp, because well good luck farming with no local.

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**Author:** ![Murkar\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/murkar_omaristos/32/258452_2.png) [@Murkar\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Murkar_Omaristos)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1596 "2019-07-05T22:35:41Z")

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This is the best change I’ve seen since I started playing the game 🙂

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**Author:** ![Urlosin\_Aship](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/urlosin_aship/32/140691_2.png) [@Urlosin\_Aship](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Urlosin_Aship)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1597 "2019-07-05T22:36:26Z")

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There goes standard Intel Channels too.

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**Author:** ![Jackson\_Starkiller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jackson_starkiller/32/187036_2.png) [@Jackson\_Starkiller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jackson_Starkiller)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1598 "2019-07-05T22:36:44Z")

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Or you could just go fight the ones who want to pvp and leave the care bears the hell alone? how about hat? no that wont do at all will it? you have to get your revenge on ppl. in rl who treated you the way you treat care bears. It’s ok show us where the bad man touched you. Some ppl don’t want to pvp in eve, but your too much of a wussie to go fight anyone who would actually pose a challenge.

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**Author:** ![Doc\_kirsa\_Merka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/doc_kirsa_merka/32/146043_2.png) [@Doc\_kirsa\_Merka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Doc_kirsa_Merka)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1599 "2019-07-05T22:36:47Z")

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Will not pay for or login a nulsec acct without local. No use buying the carrier I’ve been training for over the last 2 months. I’m sure the pvp only people love the change, but the other 75% of ccp’s paying customers disagree. Plex prices are going to tank with the unsubbing and ccp’s revenue is going to drop, a problem that they will fix by finding another way to punish those of you who are left. Enjoy!

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**Author:** ![Murkar\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/murkar_omaristos/32/258452_2.png) [@Murkar\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Murkar_Omaristos)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1600 "2019-07-05T22:37:07Z")

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■■■■ standard intel channels. They benefit krabs and only krabs, they have been the bane of my existence and the very reason I stopped doing black ops

Don’t listen to all the ■■■■■■■ whiners CCP this is great for the game 🙂 MAKE EVE HARDCORE AGAIN

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**Author:** ![Revis\_Owen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/revis_owen/32/271190_2.png) [@Revis\_Owen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Revis_Owen)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1601 "2019-07-05T22:37:34Z")

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Good move, CCP! Space is dangerous, and each step in that direction is a step in the RIGHT direction.

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**Author:** ![Valerie\_Vynneve](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_vynneve/32/221118_2.png) [@Valerie\_Vynneve](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Vynneve)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1602 "2019-07-05T22:38:45Z")

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I think of the user list on local chat as like aircraft having transponders that are picked up by air traffic control.

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**Author:** ![Major\_Xadi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/major_xadi/32/159737_2.png) [@Major\_Xadi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Major_Xadi)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1603 "2019-07-05T22:38:57Z")

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> [@Cj\_Allyn](#):
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> CCP In “Reparations for your sick torture on a targeted demographic of players” I demand a 1 Day Highsec PURGE DAY. Where we can have no rules. No Police. No repercussions for decimating the high sec populations.

Now this, THIS, would be fun. Until they all dock up.

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**Author:** ![Iron\_Breaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iron_breaker/32/506683_2.png) [@Iron\_Breaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iron_Breaker)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1604 "2019-07-05T22:40:38Z")

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If they do this, they should give players the ability to set up some infrastructure to see who is in their space… why not let the players take over where Concord lacks?

This is supposed to be a sandbox game, but all the benefits seem to go to attackers.

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**Author:** ![Jorel\_Soren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jorel_soren/32/146027_2.png) [@Jorel\_Soren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jorel_Soren)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1605 "2019-07-05T22:40:56Z")

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Excellent news! This should be permanent and also applied to low and high sec!

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**Author:** ![Malou\_Hashur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malou_hashur/32/394190_2.png) [@Malou\_Hashur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malou_Hashur)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1606 "2019-07-05T22:41:01Z")

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You know that Dscan doesn’t show cloaked ships, right ?

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1607 "2019-07-05T22:41:26Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> In terms of operating in nullsec without local I am confident that I could do it, the real question was whether I wanted to.

Just like you are confident you could be an elite ganker bumper, if only you wanted to?

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