# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935 "2019-07-05T16:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 92
**Author:** ![Teddy\_KGB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teddy_kgb/32/186819_2.png) [@Teddy\_KGB](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teddy_KGB)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1849 "2019-07-06T00:50:23Z")
#MakeEveGreatAgain ---
**Author:** ![Hi\_ThereAgain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hi_thereagain/32/82182_2.png) [@Hi\_ThereAgain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hi_ThereAgain)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1850 "2019-07-06T00:50:39Z")
I suggest going further: - remove all out of game API links (disable: dotlan, killboards, character information) - remove all NPC stations from null and low (keep just few stations for agents in starter systems) - remove local in all space - remove mass limits on WHs - extend WHs lifespan to 100+ hours - remove asset safety from all player owned structures - limit dscan to 1 AU - give fuel bay to cloak module if CCP wants to change things up … this is the way, turn the whole game upside down. but then again … this is CCP. partial not thought trough plans are what they are best at ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Szadek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/count_szadek/32/413008_2.png) [@Count\_Szadek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Count_Szadek)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1851 "2019-07-06T00:50:58Z")
With moon ming and abc ores being in hi sec, main need of null and wh is mercoxit. I see many deep core prospect ninja mining in the future. ---
**Author:** ![Naga\_Zin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naga_zin/32/146106_2.png) [@Naga\_Zin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naga_Zin)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1852 "2019-07-06T00:52:43Z")
I like the idea! Null should be dangerous! ---
**Author:** ![Daedalus\_Prometheus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daedalus_prometheus/32/273725_2.png) [@Daedalus\_Prometheus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daedalus_Prometheus)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 12:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1853 "2019-07-06T00:54:49Z")
This is widely being discussed as a reason to unsubscribe. First the nerfing to all the capital sized ratting, Nerfs to Rorqual mining, Nerfs to ratting site reproduction rate, and now we are going to get rid of local in null sec. Huge win to WH people and those like bomber’s bar, but when does the nullsec people stop getting nerfed? ---
**Author:** ![Pavel\_Legit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pavel_legit/32/146109_2.png) [@Pavel\_Legit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pavel_Legit)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1854 "2019-07-06T00:55:06Z")
Well boys, Krabbing income is gone ---
**Author:** ![Oberdon\_Shadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oberdon_shadow/32/146059_2.png) [@Oberdon\_Shadow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oberdon_Shadow)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1855 "2019-07-06T00:55:26Z")
Just because you say it does not make it true. We have recently been camped by goons. We were unable to undock anything bigger than a procurer without Goons cynoing in 60 people. When fighting, we would be outgunned 20 to 80. If we attempted to fight, we would get overwhelmed. These are hard facts of the game today. This is how it will be without local. Noone will be building anything, anywhere in nullsec and if you have a structure, you’ll get war dec’ed by 20 corps in highsec and find it very difficult to even get to Jita. The only way to play will be to be in a large corp, consolidated in a system in highsec without any structures, or in J-Space. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Artorius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/i_artorius/32/318312_2.png) [@I\_Artorius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/I_Artorius)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1856 "2019-07-06T00:55:28Z")
Goons and affiliates. So much salt cause your overlord tells you to come here and dump your salt. Bunch of childish shits. This change doesnt ruin the game. Just your game. See you soon ---
**Author:** ![USS\_Serenity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uss_serenity/32/146101_2.png) [@USS\_Serenity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/USS_Serenity)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1857 "2019-07-06T00:55:48Z")
it was people adaped made safer know people say too safe they wont do more make loss more frequent ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1858 "2019-07-06T00:56:10Z")
> [@Daedalus\_Prometheus](#): > > when does the nullsec people stop getting nerfed? All those things you mentioned as getting nerfed, got way too buffed before any nerfs. Rebalancing the whole thing is good, because it’s all become way too safe right now. ---
**Author:** ![Scorp\_Majors](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scorp_majors/32/123732_2.png) [@Scorp\_Majors](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scorp_Majors)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 12:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1859 "2019-07-06T00:57:41Z")
> [@Xelios](#): > > Big change like this always brings a wave of people “unsubbing all their accounts”, few weeks later everything has settled down into a new normal and the game chugs on. Yeah with several thousand fewer accounts. The ones that stay will be forced to join huge mega corporations that will make for even bigger alliances… this is going to kill pvp in null except for huge coalitions running right over the top of all the little guys. Small PvP alliances will pay the price first, then who knows? ---
**Author:** ![Siebmordan\_Hur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siebmordan_hur/32/411383_2.png) [@Siebmordan\_Hur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Siebmordan_Hur)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1860 "2019-07-06T01:00:07Z")
well, now AFK cloakers are out of work… hahahaha! ---
**Author:** ![Oberdon\_Shadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oberdon_shadow/32/146059_2.png) [@Oberdon\_Shadow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oberdon_Shadow)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1861 "2019-07-06T01:00:25Z")
Goons only make up a part of Nullsec, there are many more who are not goons. ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1862 "2019-07-06T01:00:56Z")
Nah if you say something in local you will show When you show as a neutral you will be able to watch them scatter like cockroaches. ---
**Author:** ![Jagati\_Khan81](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jagati_khan81/32/139190_2.png) [@Jagati\_Khan81](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jagati_Khan81)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 1:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1863 "2019-07-06T01:01:57Z")
I will apologise for the insult that was uncalled for. But I 100% stand by the rest. As for your war with goons that is nothing to do with no local 2bh. And both sides would be dealing with the same thing find ways to take advantage of it yourself. And if they are already camping u in station then I really don’t see your point at all. Your issue is you don’t have a way to deal with goons. Forgot to mention goons also build and sell stuff eh. ---
**Author:** ![Oberdon\_Shadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oberdon_shadow/32/146059_2.png) [@Oberdon\_Shadow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oberdon_Shadow)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1864 "2019-07-06T01:03:31Z")
Issue is no way to deal with cloaky campers. With no local, it’s essentially worse because then you won’t know if they are in system and Dscan doesn’t show a CovertOps Cloaked ship that has a CovertOps Cyno. You guys should spend more time in Nullsec and really see what we deal with. ---
**Author:** ![Lillith\_Sakata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lillith_sakata/32/255593_2.png) [@Lillith\_Sakata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lillith_Sakata)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1865 "2019-07-06T01:05:17Z")
Man, really liking that kool-aid, and parroting the ■■■■, aren’t ya? Cap ratting needed to be nerfed and needs even more nerf. Make rats immune to boson. This ■■■■ I keep seeing titans doing is not even funny and rewards complacent laziness. Rorqual mining was well out of hand. If you had a rorqual, gone was your need to sub, ever again. Things still make damned good ISK **solo** … I think they need more nerf to self-mining and more fleet boosting. WH people also got hit by the reduction in respawns. Don’t be a numpty and please use both of those brain cells. Maybe rub em together, generate a spark and make more… As far as local going poof, yeah I was actually in your camp for a long time. Then i decided to **allow** my balls to drop, and tried out Jspace. Guess what? I learned, adapted, and now I know just how ■■■■■■■ cancerous local is. Maybe if you tried it out more than just a daytrip, you’d understand. But you’d rather turtle up and keep being a lazy twat. – Or maybe you’re secretly a botter/RMTer and CCP just kicked your wallet in the balls? Also, WH duders and bombers bar would still have to hunt for people, and with no local hunting is even harder. Take off the blinders and look from the other side and you’ll see just how much the removal of local will **benefit** you – if you actually play the game and not some AFK-miner or botter. ---
**Author:** ![Oberdon\_Shadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oberdon_shadow/32/146059_2.png) [@Oberdon\_Shadow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oberdon_Shadow)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1866 "2019-07-06T01:05:35Z")
CovertOps Cloak, CovertOps Cyno can get right up near you and cyno in 200 people, no dscan will show this, no probes will either. This is part of the game now but atleast we knew they were in system, now, we won’t even know until we’re surrounded by 200 people and dead. No chance to fight back, nothing. This game is dead. ---
**Author:** ![Jagati\_Khan81](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jagati_khan81/32/139190_2.png) [@Jagati\_Khan81](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jagati_Khan81)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 1:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1867 "2019-07-06T01:06:23Z")
No local goes both ways if you are being camped and you know it you shouldn’t be trying to mine anyway. Get in some cloaky ships yourself fight back when and where u can. Find allies move if u have to etc this is EvE online you are supposed to fight and defend what is yours. ---
**Author:** ![USS\_Serenity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uss_serenity/32/146101_2.png) [@USS\_Serenity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/USS_Serenity)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 1:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1868 "2019-07-06T01:06:39Z")
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