# Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [July 5, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935 "2019-07-05T16:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 98
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 2:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1969 "2019-07-06T02:09:52Z")
Have we not been telling you all this time that the BIGGEST bears are in nullsec? ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1970 "2019-07-06T02:11:01Z")
Jita and Amarr are already out of Curses. Well that isn’t true I am sure there are plenty of curses in local…just not on the market. ---
**Author:** ![Ghost\_O\_Mo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ghost_o_mo/32/376789_2.png) [@Ghost\_O\_Mo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ghost_O_Mo)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1971 "2019-07-06T02:11:48Z")
They’ve been following the “ultimate grind” formula you guys love since 2012… and the game has been losing players every since. All my highsec brawler buddies quit because there was nothing left to do… game went stale. This is fresh… watch for us ugly peoples coming out of the woods. It’s bear season. ---
**Author:** ![Alexli14](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexli14/32/319570_2.png) [@Alexli14](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexli14)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 2:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1972 "2019-07-06T02:13:00Z")
Ontop of this it should be noted that just beacuse you get cought by a clokey or logoff doesent mean that you can count that clokey expended they can easaly cyno in a seprate ship to do the droping and never even be seen by the inhabitants just log back off or cloak back up and no ammount of gate camping can do anything to remove them and not having local to warn of this is a major problem ---
**Author:** ![Balrus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balrus/32/146143_2.png) [@Balrus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balrus)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 2:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1973 "2019-07-06T02:13:39Z")
Yeah I don’t need that kind of stress while trying to relax and have fun. Lived in a WH for a year, not doing that again but in Nul. I’ll unsub all my accounts and find something else to play again. ---
**Author:** ![Shai\_Hulud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shai_hulud/32/279251_2.png) [@Shai\_Hulud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shai_Hulud)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 2:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1974 "2019-07-06T02:14:30Z")
I like this move a lot by CCP. My only concern is that in the long run this will empower those that successfully use intel bots… but we can cross that bridge when we get there. Hopefully CCP takes actions to battle this coming trend between now and “then”. ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 2:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1975 "2019-07-06T02:14:35Z")
Can’t krab in high sec? That it quite literally what I do when I just want to chill. ---
**Author:** ![XxMinerxX\_X](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxminerxx_x/32/146121_2.png) [@XxMinerxX\_X](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/XxMinerxX_X)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1976 "2019-07-06T02:15:06Z")
Eve has gone through far bigger changes than this, and is still plugging along just fine. Just because the devs change one metric of the game does not mean the game is dead. Some people will leave, but this will spark renewed interest in the game for others. The fluidity of Eve’s population is something that makes it unique. Stop crying, start adapting, or feel free to leave. There’s plenty of people itching to take your place. ---
**Author:** ![Khor\_Ah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khor_ah/32/153865_2.png) [@Khor\_Ah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khor_Ah)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1977 "2019-07-06T02:15:23Z")
12+y char here BEST CHANGE EVAR!!! CCP I forgive you for ECM nerf and love you again! some points 1. EASY: Make D-Scan work only while uncloaked (Probes still work while cloaked) that should balance things a bit. 2. probably HARD: Some kind of mechanic , if finishing warp in point is within 250km , you get Dscan automatic Dscan cycle. ---
**Author:** ![Kalpel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalpel/32/186678_2.png) [@Kalpel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalpel)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1978 "2019-07-06T02:15:48Z")
> [@Balrus](#): > > Yeah I don’t need that kind of stress while trying to relax and have fun. Lived in a WH for a year, not doing that again but in Nul. I’ll unsub all my accounts and find something else to play again. There are many people that will be joining you and the ones that stay CCP can deal with when they say WTF CCP why is the game so dead? ---
**Author:** ![Senior\_Beavis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/senior_beavis/32/169662_2.png) [@Senior\_Beavis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Senior_Beavis)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1979 "2019-07-06T02:15:50Z")
I mean, they’re owned by Pearl Abyss, which is literally the asian EA. Anyone who’s experienced their other game, BDO, will tell you they’re probably worse than EA + Activision combined. ---
**Author:** ![XxMinerxX\_X](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxminerxx_x/32/146121_2.png) [@XxMinerxX\_X](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/XxMinerxX_X)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1980 "2019-07-06T02:15:56Z")
Try highsec if you don’t want stress. ---
**Author:** ![Koraeth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/koraeth/32/359798_2.png) [@Koraeth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Koraeth)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 2:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1981 "2019-07-06T02:16:10Z")
If CCP isn’t careful they are going to force all of the null-sec alliances to ban together, and then we’ll totally ■■■■ this game over and finish killing it for you. Don’t push us into a corner. ---
**Author:** ![Lillith\_Sakata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lillith_sakata/32/255593_2.png) [@Lillith\_Sakata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lillith_Sakata)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 2:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1982 "2019-07-06T02:17:11Z")
1. that will hurt people that are low skill harshly. Will reward high skill chars more, also it would completely remove the value of scouts. 2. ANY automated scanning mechanism makes the removal of local moot, and bots will go right back to using it. ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 2:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1983 "2019-07-06T02:17:35Z")
It’s called “blue donut”. You people have already been killing the game slowly. We tried to warn you. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/3/53f6ce4fcb1bd01408682c11074f40a28490590c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Demon-of-Razgriz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demon-of-razgriz/32/146113_2.png) [@Demon-of-Razgriz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Demon-of-Razgriz)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 2:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1984 "2019-07-06T02:17:42Z")
@Lillith_Sakata @Nou_Mene I won’t disagree when I rat I used 6 account two supers with constant attention two cloaky scouts a noctis salvager and a single emergency exit cyno to GTFO I never aligned out or warped off if it appeared on grid I was ready to jump at moment notice plus I was always fit for full out combat not the ratting fits. But the point is before you could manage the risk see there’s a person you can’t find any remnant of then do your due diligence watch the surrounding systems see the activity do research on the cloaky camper find what they normally drop or do determine if it’s a threat worth the time then and only then act on it. It was the only way to counter the cloaky campers that I found to be successful. Now I will stress that due to IRL being a dick with several family deaths I haven’t been able to play and removed myself and assets from null till I could this still has me concerned about the future. Concerned enough to express my concern but I don’t have a crystal ball nor can I see future. Therefore I will do as I stated in my first post and sit on sidelines and hope this works better than I think it will. ---
**Author:** ![Lillith\_Sakata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lillith_sakata/32/255593_2.png) [@Lillith\_Sakata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lillith_Sakata)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1985 "2019-07-06T02:18:02Z")
oh hell yeah. Please, let the whiney bitchy ones all “banned” together and biomass. Please. ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1986 "2019-07-06T02:18:09Z")
You act as if there are no isk faucets in low or even high. I have no issue making tons of isk on low skill toons. Nothing says that every newbro must immidiately trudge off to null sec. ---
**Author:** ![Kalpel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalpel/32/186678_2.png) [@Kalpel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalpel)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1987 "2019-07-06T02:18:21Z")
> [@Senior\_Beavis](#): > > I mean, they’re owned by Pearl Abyss, which is literally the asian EA. Anyone who’s experienced their other game, BDO, will tell you they’re probably worse than EA + Activision combined. The thing is PB games aren’t good at all, I played the free trial of BDO it sucked and it’s already been remastered LOL! ---
**Author:** ![Diarmait\_Hannigan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diarmait_hannigan/32/278544_2.png) [@Diarmait\_Hannigan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diarmait_Hannigan)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/1988 "2019-07-06T02:18:51Z")
tbh i dont care, it could be a fun change, or it could be a horrible one, bring it on [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=97) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935.md?page=99)