# Local is Trash

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-is-trash/320825>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [July 22, 2021, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-is-trash/320825 "2021-07-22T00:47:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-is-trash/320825/145 "2021-07-22T11:46:13Z")

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Yup. Just easier for me. There’s nothing unhealthy about the majority of lowsec players docking up when local n+1s.

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**Author:** ![Moriar\_theChosen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moriar_thechosen/32/368191_2.png) [@Moriar\_theChosen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moriar_theChosen)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-is-trash/320825/146 "2021-07-22T11:48:49Z")

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Everyone knows the big names, IBeast, etc. But there are a lot of good solo people that are less famous.

> **[Grunt Kado](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7rx1i0VMqBVBtHBemFUaIA?app=desktop)**

> **[Twitch](https://m.twitch.tv/auraus_porcaleus)**
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> Twitch is the world's leading video platform and community for gamers.

Auraus Porcaleus^^^^

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-is-trash/320825/147 "2021-07-22T11:50:52Z")

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Do you just throw yourself into every fight that can come your way. As you seem to fly T3C’s I guess the answer is no. People take stock see what is there and then setup for it.

In my experience there is no value in bothering with a fleet of T3C’s for example because they run or hide and you cannot just probe them down to force a fight.

Also in most cases people will see a fleet that can fight them and run away as they did not want a fight, they wanted a kill. And there is a difference.

@Moriar_theChosen thanks for linking that, I am always surprised at people who cannot be bothered to search and learn. I am not his mother or teacher, hopefully he learns from it.

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-is-trash/320825/148 "2021-07-22T11:51:47Z")

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He didn’t link anything about gate camps, he just linked some good pvp players.

He didn’t do your job for you, that job is still undone.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-is-trash/320825/149 "2021-07-22T11:52:11Z")

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So the tactics and strategies don’t apply? Wow…

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-is-trash/320825/150 "2021-07-22T11:52:52Z")

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Not for breaking a 10+man gate camp with 3 people, no they do not.

Did you think they did? Wow…

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-is-trash/320825/151 "2021-07-22T11:53:16Z")

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Don’t waste your time. Dracvlad hasn’t undocked in years. He has no relevant opinions or experience of any kind whatsoever.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-is-trash/320825/152 "2021-07-22T11:55:13Z")

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It is easy enough to find them.

@Aiko_Danuja 9 months becomes years, you are never accurate in any thing you post.  
I do not update killboards either…

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-is-trash/320825/153 "2021-07-22T11:55:41Z")

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If they are easy to find how come you haven’t found one yet?

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-is-trash/320825/154 "2021-07-22T11:56:38Z")

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I am not looking for them, if you want to learn how to do it then you should. I know how to do it.

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-is-trash/320825/155 "2021-07-22T11:57:21Z")

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So you can’t spend 2 minutes looking on youtube for ‘something easy to find’ to prove your point, but you can spend 5-10 minutes on a forum explaining why you don’t need to.

Got it 👍

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-is-trash/320825/156 "2021-07-22T11:58:18Z")

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Even when Dracvlad did undock, years ago, he was never considered competent or knowledgeable about basic game mechanics. He has long since become nothing more than a forum ‘warrior’, who has gone on record stating that his goal is to remove PvP from the game entirely, and seeks to do so via endless crossposting. The best thing to do, when you see his name, is just scroll ahead to see if anyone else had anything to say.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-is-trash/320825/157 "2021-07-22T11:58:34Z")

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Deflection 101, you moan about a mechanic and then can’t improve yourself and your mates by looking at video’s on a perfectly good suggestion because you want to make a point on a forum. You won! 👍

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-is-trash/320825/158 "2021-07-22T11:59:03Z")

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Wrong again.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-is-trash/320825/159 "2021-07-22T11:59:46Z")

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Just watch Dracvlad, in no time at all Arcturen will learn to ignore you, and all your power here will dissipate like a faded moment.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-is-trash/320825/160 "2021-07-22T12:00:07Z")

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You seem a bit upset, calm down ganker. Haven’t you got some noob Ventures to gank somewhere? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-is-trash/320825/161 "2021-07-22T12:00:17Z")

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Sorry if the miners aren’t in the mood to dress up like sheep and lemming into camps for YOUR content. Maybe make some effort eh?

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-is-trash/320825/162 "2021-07-22T12:01:11Z")

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Yup, because its only miners I’m referring to, no one else docks up, certainly not people ratting.

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**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-is-trash/320825/163 "2021-07-22T12:01:45Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> Just watch Dracvlad, in no time at all Arcturen will learn to ignore you, and all your power here will dissipate like a faded moment.

What you call power is a noxious gas and what you call fading is actually opening the window.

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-is-trash/320825/164 "2021-07-22T12:04:44Z")

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Oh look another one who hasn’t undocked in over a year!

> **[Rekindle | Character](https://zkillboard.com/character/1179982954/)**
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> Rekindle: 146 ships destroyed and 131 ships lost.

Is this forum just full of wash-outs?

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