# Log-In Event During Thanksgiving Holiday **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 18, 2025, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/log-in-event-during-thanksgiving-holiday/501139 "2025-11-18T17:02:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Angel\_Van\_Death](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/angel_van_death/32/477684_2.png) [@Angel\_Van\_Death](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Angel_Van_Death)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/log-in-event-during-thanksgiving-holiday/501139/21 "2025-11-19T13:56:06Z")
Oh i see op is suffering from burger syndrome. How about we bann people not being able to log in on Thanksgiving? Eve ia a game of consequences. And especially burger should suffering from them ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/log-in-event-during-thanksgiving-holiday/501139/22 "2025-11-19T14:40:07Z")
> lol, dream on bud… Keep pushing those semantics if it makes you feel better about yourself. And by the way, your racist remark about the ole Red, White & Blue is just comical… Ah-ha, so along with the words _majority_ and _plurality_, we can now add _racism_ to the list of terms you don’t understand. Are you channelling a mixture of Balos and Salvos, or are you simply being you? > lol, sorry that you’re so bent on trying to prove USA doesn’t have the majority of players… The fact that you actually believe that combining all the other Nations player percentages together and then comparing that amount to the USA player percentage is proof that you’re correct… OMG 😆 That’s how majorities work in the real world. Even the dictionary definition you’re waving around says as much – which you’d know if you’d actually read it instead of doing your usual trick of cranking the outrage dial to eleven and blinding yourself with it. **TL;DR:** You’ve used a definition that supports my point, called colours a race, and insisted 25% is somehow larger than 75%. I’m afraid there aren’t enough crayons to resolve any of that through education at an appropriate level. Toodles. ---
**Author:** ![Denyial](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/denyial/32/426393_2.png) [@Denyial](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Denyial)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/log-in-event-during-thanksgiving-holiday/501139/23 "2025-11-19T15:09:53Z")
it’s not free stuff if you don’t want or need it or even use it, its kind of like the propaganda trolls use to malign peoples genuine concerns. Unwanted, though to be fair i’m sure your mom loves you more than she’d love having her basement back. ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/log-in-event-during-thanksgiving-holiday/501139/24 "2025-11-19T15:31:35Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > And just to be clear, a majority doesn’t necessarily mean an amount more than 50%… That is actually the literal definition of “majority”. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/log-in-event-during-thanksgiving-holiday/501139/25 "2025-11-19T15:38:39Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > The one Nation with the largest percentage of players, the highest amount of players, the majority of players, etc, etc, was the USA… Sigh. No….25% is not ‘the majority’. Sheesh…why does this even need explaining ? Do people not even do _basic_ maths at school any more ? ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/log-in-event-during-thanksgiving-holiday/501139/26 "2025-11-19T22:43:18Z")
I do apologize for those among my country men who are effectively illiterate, I assure you that not all of us are. Unfortunately we have a large portion of our populace who either deny reality or are just amoral liars. We simply used to call them trolls online, but I think it’s evolved to something more. ---
**Author:** ![Gealbhan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gealbhan/32/452651_2.png) [@Gealbhan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gealbhan)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/log-in-event-during-thanksgiving-holiday/501139/28 "2025-11-20T01:00:04Z")
We have these… ![lenovo-loq-15-gaming-laptop-17-4289400752](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/f/9/7f96f5450ab213398358ea67c0b0dea71960b79f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/log-in-event-during-thanksgiving-holiday/501139/29 "2025-11-20T01:13:14Z")
You are simply misunderstanding what that means, I’m afraid. Here is a source that will slow-walk you through it. > **[MAJORITY Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com](https://www.dictionary.com/browse/majority)** > > MAJORITY definition: the greater part or number; the number larger than half the total (minority ). See examples of majority used in a sentence. **noun** ### _ **plural** _ _ **majorities** _ 1. the greater part or number; **the number larger than half the total ([minority](https://www.dictionary.com/browse/minority) )**. 2. a number of voters or votes, jurors, or others in agreement, **constituting more than half of the total number.** Glad I could be of service. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/log-in-event-during-thanksgiving-holiday/501139/30 "2025-11-20T01:13:26Z")
Let’s strip away the fog, the theatrics and the endless redefining of words: 25% is still less than 50%. Repeating it, italicising it, or citing cherry-picked dictionary entries – that don’t say what you think they do – doesn’t magically turn it into a majority. Calling the largest single national slice of the pie a ‘majority’ when it’s only 25% of the whole is simply incorrect, full stop. Aggregating all other nations isn’t a dirty trick – it’s simple arithmetic and how things actually work: the rest of the players collectively are the majority. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/log-in-event-during-thanksgiving-holiday/501139/31 "2025-11-20T01:16:42Z")
> [@Namdor](#): > > You are simply understanding what that means, I’m afraid. You might want to edit ‘understanding’ to read ‘misunderstanding’ so that it makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/log-in-event-during-thanksgiving-holiday/501139/32 "2025-11-20T01:33:59Z")
Where’s the “grammar police” when you need them? 🤣 I miss the old forums. What can I say? ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/log-in-event-during-thanksgiving-holiday/501139/33 "2025-11-20T01:37:56Z")
Woop-woop, that’s the sound of da police. 🚔 ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/log-in-event-during-thanksgiving-holiday/501139/34 "2025-11-20T01:41:34Z")
I liked it because it reminded players that they had to word their posts as carefully as they flew! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/log-in-event-during-thanksgiving-holiday/501139/35 "2025-11-20T10:17:46Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > So please enlighten me as to which Nation in that Dev Presentation had 75% of the player population in Eve? > > Better yet, which Nation topped that Dev list for 20 years on having the highest percentage of player population in Eve? > [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Let’s strip away the fog, the theatrics, and the endless deflections: 25% is still less than 50%. Figured you wouldn’t answer the questions.. So instead you move the goal posts and change the numbers… 😅 > [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Your mountains of text, insults, ad hominems and ‘look how clever I am’ references don’t alter the maths – they simply showcase an apparent inability to tell plurality from majority. End of story. _Yawn…_ Pot calling Kettle, etc… > [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Given your habit of making accusations against others, may I suggest you follow the advice of Medice, cura te ipsum Nice show of hypocrisy, here’s one for you… Practice what you preach… ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/log-in-event-during-thanksgiving-holiday/501139/36 "2025-11-20T10:54:28Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Obviously your basic comprehension skills are sadly lacking… You really shouldn’t have dropped out of school… > > Of all the Nations listed in that Dev Presentation, one Nation had over double the percentage amount of players in Eve for 20 years compared to any other Nation… That Nation was USA with 25%… The next closest Nation had 12%, next was 8%, etc, etc.. > > USA had over double the amount of any other Nation on that list… So Yeah, they had the majority of players in Eve compared to any other Nation… > > Now stop combining all the other Nations into a single Nation, it only makes you look stupid… You remind me of the old Sufi saying that ‘self justification is worse than the original offence’ The _truly_ crazy thing is that your own ‘read it and weep’ _refutes_ your interpretation rather than supporting it. What part of ‘larger part’ are you failing to comprehend ?? Since when was 25% the ‘larger part’ of 100% ? You don’t seem to understand the very definition that you think you are using to refute everyone else. It actually refutes _you_ ! > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Now stop combining all the other Nations into a single Nation But that is precisely how one _defines_ majority ! Majority IS the portion of the whole. That has been its definition for 4000 years. It is precisely what ‘greater part’ in your own definition means…..the greater portion **of the whole**. That is what ‘larger part’ MEANS. Has the penny dropped yet ? Indeed, in UK elections it is often said that one party out of the 30 or so available ‘ got no majority’ if they fail to get more than 325 of the 650 seats in Parliament. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/log-in-event-during-thanksgiving-holiday/501139/37 "2025-11-20T10:57:38Z")
> So please enlighten me as to which Nation in that Dev Presentation had 75% of the player population in Eve? No single nation has 75% of the player population in Eve in that presentation. In the entire history of Eve Online, no single nation has ever accounted for anywhere even close to that number. However, the nations that are not the US do make up 75% of the player base, which makes them the collective majority against the plurality of 25% which the US accounts for. > Better yet, which Nation topped that Dev list for 20 years on having the highest percentage of player population in Eve? That isn’t actually a question – it’s an attempt to reframe the discussion and drag it back to a point that no one is disputing. Yes, the US had the largest _single_ national share. No one has claimed otherwise. However, that does not make it a _majority_, and nothing you’ve written changes the basic arithmetic. > Figured you wouldn’t answer the questions.. So instead you move the goal posts and change the numbers… 😅 I haven’t changed anything. The numbers have been the same from the start: 25% is less than 50% and therefore cannot be a majority in this context – or in virtually any other. That remains true no matter how many times you try to reposition the goal posts or redefine what a majority is. > _Yawn…_ > > Pot calling Kettle, etc… Are you suggesting that _I’ve_ used “mountains of text, insults, ad hominems and ‘look how clever I am’ references,” or that _I_ have difficulty distinguishing plurality from majority? Critiquing faulty logic is not an insult. Sarcasm is not an ad hominem. Pointing out mathematical errors is not a personal attack. By contrast, calling people “dense,” questioning their education, and misusing the term “racist” to score points _are_ ad hominems, insults and personal attacks. They target the person rather than the argument – the textbook definition. > Nice show of hypocrisy, here’s one for you… > > Practice what you preach… I’ve made no accusations or ad hominems – merely observations about historical behaviour patterns and inferences about the arguments presented. Those are not the same thing as attacking the person behind them. If nothing else, this thread is an excellent reminder that plurality and majority are not interchangeable terms – no matter how loudly one insists otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/log-in-event-during-thanksgiving-holiday/501139/38 "2025-11-20T11:09:31Z")
Lets put it in a way that is unambiguous and clear… Imagine an election and there are 3 Candidates….A, B, and C Candidate A gets 35% of the vote Candidate B gets 33% of the vote Candidate C gets 32% of the vote Candidate A may have the ‘largest single portion’ of the vote…BUT….they do not have ‘the majority’ of the vote….._as 65% of the electorate did not vote for them_. They do not have the ‘larger part’ of the vote and ‘larger part’ most definitely means out of the entire 100%. You are totally confusing ‘single largest portion’ with ‘majority’. They are NOT the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/log-in-event-during-thanksgiving-holiday/501139/39 "2025-11-20T11:55:11Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > You are totally confusing ‘single largest portion’ with ‘majority’. They are NOT the same thing. I think he always confused `most` with `majority` his entire life and now that people point it out he is the victim of his own stubbornness, uwilling to admit his error and instead doubles down, as always, while also under the delusion he is right somehow. He is unable to face any other reality out of misguided and completely baseless pride. > [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Ah-ha, so along with the words _majority_ and _plurality_, we can now add _racism_ to the list of terms you don’t understand. Also ironic he was (as he says) “`racist`” (actually nationality based discriminating) against others based on the fact they are from the EU and had no problem with his own such behavior, yet when others do something similar he plays the victim card. As a hypocrite you reap what you sow DMC, you have no moral ground to complain as you did much worse yourself, and the moderators removed your related post for that very reason, I’ve personally witnessed this. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/log-in-event-during-thanksgiving-holiday/501139/40 "2025-11-20T12:10:27Z")
His claim that my use of “looking through a red, white and blue lens” was racist is absolutely hilarious – it was merely an observation that many in the US tend to look at the outside world from a very US centric viewpoint. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/log-in-event-during-thanksgiving-holiday/501139/41 "2025-11-20T12:33:33Z")
> [@Playerbase/player count by country/location?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/playerbase-player-count-by-country-location/455610): > > I’ve been searching the internet without success. Would love to see some chart for how many players are from where. Do we have this information available? Found old forum post that was taken from an old forum post. Updated statistics available anywhere? Country Subscription % United States 38,12% United Kingdom 11,83% Germany 9,19% Canada 5,18% Russia 6,40% Australia 3,48% Netherlands 2,23% France 2,31% Sweden 1,99% Denmark 2,04% Finland 1,06% Norway 1,41% Belgium 0,73% Ukraine 1,01% Romania 0,63% Poland 0,84% Austria 0,84% Ireland 0,44% Switzerland 0,75% New Zealand 0,50% Other 9,05% So combined they are all more than u.s. but i think today even with frat, US has overall more players [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/log-in-event-during-thanksgiving-holiday/501139.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/log-in-event-during-thanksgiving-holiday/501139.md?page=3)