# Looking for current Rattlesnake fits for solo L4's

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**Created:** [December 14, 2018, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-current-rattlesnake-fits-for-solo-l4s/126910 "2018-12-14T11:07:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Junara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/junara/32/116031_2.png) [@Junara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Junara)\
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Hi long time player just returning from a few years away. Looking for some fit advice for a solo mission runner. I have high skills and I am omega. I have quite a bit of tier 2 and faction gear to choose from and a decent amount of isk if I need to buy something. Looking for a strong set up to do L4’s in, COSMOS, and other PvE oriented stuff.

Thank you for any fit advice.

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**Author:** ![Do\_Little](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/do_little/32/411571_2.png) [@Do\_Little](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Do_Little)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-current-rattlesnake-fits-for-solo-l4s/126910/2 "2018-12-14T14:47:51Z")

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My preference is to fit the Rattlesnake for long range sniping with passive tank, MJD, sentries & cruise missiles. A basic T2 fit that produces over 1000 dps with over 100K ehp at 120Km range:

[Rattlesnake, Rattlesnake fit]

Damage Control II  
Drone Damage Amplifier II  
Drone Damage Amplifier II  
Ballistic Control System II  
Ballistic Control System II  
Missile Guidance Enhancer II

Large Micro Jump Drive  
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II  
Large Shield Extender II  
Large Shield Extender II  
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script  
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script  
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile  
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile  
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile  
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile  
Drone Link Augmentor II  
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I  
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II  
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II

Warden II x2

You can go as shiny as you like and will probably clear missions a bit faster at the risk of making yourself a gank magnet

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**Author:** ![xCONFLiCTiONx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xconflictionx/32/118317_2.png) [@xCONFLiCTiONx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xCONFLiCTiONx)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-current-rattlesnake-fits-for-solo-l4s/126910/3 "2018-12-14T15:07:10Z")

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The above fit is nice but you really only need 1 DLA as you should mostly be using sentry’s anyway and DLA has no affect (that I know of) on sentry’s. You use drones for stuff that gets too close and sentry’s cannot hit.

I used to have active shield fit with 2 hardeners due to different types of missions have different resist sets so you change out the hardeners and dps for the type of mission you are doing.

I also had a AB on mine due to having to go to accel gates a lot.

EDIT: My fit wasn’t even a billion isk and I had NO problems running lvl 4’s.

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**Author:** ![Junara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/junara/32/116031_2.png) [@Junara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Junara)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-current-rattlesnake-fits-for-solo-l4s/126910/4 "2018-12-14T16:40:04Z")

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Can you share your fit or recommended fit? Thank you!

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**Author:** ![Junara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/junara/32/116031_2.png) [@Junara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Junara)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-current-rattlesnake-fits-for-solo-l4s/126910/5 "2018-12-14T16:42:47Z")

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I’m reading these are pretty good on a Rattlesnake, do you like them?

C3-X ‘Hivaa Saitsuo’ Ballistic Control System

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**Author:** ![Quor\_Dresden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quor_dresden/32/277545_2.png) [@Quor\_Dresden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quor_Dresden)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-current-rattlesnake-fits-for-solo-l4s/126910/6 "2018-12-14T17:15:30Z")

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Very nice for overall dps. Costly too. I find the tech 2 drone damage amplifiers are all I really need. Cruise missles are only good for large targets. I fire missles at something large and let the sentries do the rest. I also use a passive tank with MJD, and a MWD to keep distance or to get to gates quickly.

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**Author:** ![Do\_Little](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/do_little/32/411571_2.png) [@Do\_Little](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Do_Little)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-current-rattlesnake-fits-for-solo-l4s/126910/7 "2018-12-14T19:19:44Z")

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I don’t think the C3-X ‘Hivaa Saitsuo’ represents good value on Rattlesnake - it has plenty of low slots and there is no need to spend a lot to get a little extra capability - it doesn’t need it. For that matter, you can easily run most level 4 missions in a Gila. Guristas ships are way overpowered but nobody seems to be complaining!

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**Author:** ![Junara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/junara/32/116031_2.png) [@Junara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Junara)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-current-rattlesnake-fits-for-solo-l4s/126910/8 "2018-12-14T20:27:19Z")

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Are the cruise/ warden long range fits the current way to go? I am seeing a fair amount of older RHML fits?

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-current-rattlesnake-fits-for-solo-l4s/126910/9 "2018-12-14T20:53:39Z")

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That’s what I do. Still room for a pair of heavy drones and some lights. For quicker missions that my tank can handle I will stay in close and use mobile combat drones.

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**Author:** ![Junara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/junara/32/116031_2.png) [@Junara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Junara)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-current-rattlesnake-fits-for-solo-l4s/126910/10 "2018-12-14T21:07:14Z")

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with RHML do you still use a passive tank? is that viable, sorry this has always been the hardest part for me to come up with a fit that works for me.

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2018, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-current-rattlesnake-fits-for-solo-l4s/126910/11 "2018-12-15T19:35:55Z")

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put a signal amplifier in one of your low slots it will save you a million kicks in the nuts

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2018, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-current-rattlesnake-fits-for-solo-l4s/126910/12 "2018-12-15T21:08:56Z")

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Ok.

Any guidance on cruise missiles or RHML? And would you tank each different?

Ty

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2018, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-current-rattlesnake-fits-for-solo-l4s/126910/13 "2018-12-16T20:21:56Z")

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> [@xCONFLiCTiONx](#):
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> The above fit is nice but you really only need 1 DLA as you should mostly be using sentry’s anyway and DLA has no affect (that I know of) on sentry’s. You use drones for stuff that gets too close and sentry’s cannot hit.

with only one you can only use drones out to 84km, need a second to get up to 108km which will be very important if you are going to use an MJD. On some missions it’s also important to have 100km range as some spawns are at range. Could also use one DLA and a t2 drone range control rig that gets out to 104km. And that’s with max skills I’d assume a lot of people don’t have the drone control range skills maxed.

> [@xCONFLiCTiONx](#):
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> EDIT: My fit wasn’t even a billion isk and I had NO problems running lvl 4’s.

cheap setups work, but expensive setups work better. That said gank risk is a thing so some upgrades make more sense than others. A pithum a-type invuln lets you tank almost anything pretty easily, but it alone is enough to get you ganked. A few faction damage mods are a nice damage boost and unlikely to get you ganked.

> [@Junara](#):
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> I’m reading these are pretty good on a Rattlesnake, do you like them?
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> C3-X ‘Hivaa Saitsuo’ Ballistic Control System

they are fantastic, that said with the popularity of the gila in abyssal sites they got pretty expensive, that said you probably only need 1 or 2 so it’s not too expensive.

> [@Junara](#):
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> Are the cruise/ warden long range fits the current way to go? I am seeing a fair amount of older RHML fits?

I pretty much always carry a gecko, 2x garde 2x warden/curator/bouncer, and a flight of lights depending on what NPCs I’m up against. easy to change up the drones depending on the situation.

I think cruise are better for sustained DPS, but they have poor application and you need to use a few rig slots and a target painter to make the most of them, but they will hit out to your lock range. The RHML have better application and high burst dps, but the long reload and short range makes me not want to use them too much.

Mainly comes down to preference. can always switch fits, or even have multiple rattlers with different fits especially since you probably want different rigs for cruise vs RHML. I have 2 machs one with AC and one with Arty because it’s faster to switch ships than refit.

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**Author:** ![Junara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/junara/32/116031_2.png) [@Junara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Junara)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-current-rattlesnake-fits-for-solo-l4s/126910/14 "2018-12-17T12:42:21Z")

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Thank you for your tips. Do you have a fit you can share?

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**Author:** ![HugoRich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hugorich/32/234774_2.png) [@HugoRich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/HugoRich)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-current-rattlesnake-fits-for-solo-l4s/126910/15 "2018-12-17T16:42:52Z")

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Get to mission spot, target few bs for main caliber and frigs for small drones, fly to gates, when reach them drop mtu, when with frigs is over release gecko and shoot cruiser and bc. All u need is ab or mwd to reach gates, 2 dread guristas invul fields, x-larg shield booster, guidance comp, flare and rigor rigs, rest depend from ur isks amount, u can stay at one place and just shoot targets, theres no need of all those movements with jumping on jdrive around spot, drop/collect sentry drones, etc. I just can get why do ppl doing that 😄

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-current-rattlesnake-fits-for-solo-l4s/126910/16 "2018-12-17T20:56:40Z")

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Came up with this. resists are mission specific which I will change as I go, any good?

[Rattlesnake, Prometheus]  
Ballistic Control System II  
Republic Fleet Ballistic Control System  
Ballistic Control System II  
Drone Damage Amplifier II  
Drone Damage Amplifier II  
Damage Control II

Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster  
Dread Guristas EM Ward Field  
Dread Guristas Adaptive Invulnerability Field  
Republic Fleet Target Painter  
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery  
Large Micro Jump Drive  
Gist X-Type 500MN Microwarpdrive

Cruise Missile Launcher II  
Cruise Missile Launcher II  
Cruise Missile Launcher II  
Cruise Missile Launcher II  
Cruise Missile Launcher II  
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I  
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II  
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Warden II x2  
Garde II x2  
‘Augmented’ Hobgoblin x5  
Gecko x1

Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile x2442  
Caldari Navy Nova Cruise Missile x2944  
Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile x3000

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-current-rattlesnake-fits-for-solo-l4s/126910/17 "2018-12-17T21:11:56Z")

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I prefer the core 500 mn for cap. plus ccc rig.  
also acttive hardener are better.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-current-rattlesnake-fits-for-solo-l4s/126910/18 "2018-12-17T21:36:23Z")

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Those are active. I’ll check out the core one you suggest. I have 2 CCC rigs on there.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-current-rattlesnake-fits-for-solo-l4s/126910/19 "2018-12-17T22:45:19Z")

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> [@Junara](#):
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> Those are active.

indeed, my b.  
the core x-type 500mn has no malus on cap, making it a huge impact.

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-current-rattlesnake-fits-for-solo-l4s/126910/20 "2018-12-19T15:44:23Z")

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The Gist X-Type 500mn is same, it does not have a cap penalty either. It does have a higher activation cost though, which could make a difference.

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