# Looking for mercs to teach BLACKFLAG a lesson **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [November 2, 2022, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-mercs-to-teach-blackflag-a-lesson/382740 "2022-11-02T01:54:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-mercs-to-teach-blackflag-a-lesson/382740/87 "2022-11-03T17:50:14Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > Do you always listen to what people say in local? Looks like it wasn’t BLACKFLAG that learned a lesson ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-mercs-to-teach-blackflag-a-lesson/382740/88 "2022-11-03T17:51:04Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > Looks like it wasn’t BLACKFLAG that learned a lesson Judging by this thread, i dont think he learned his lesson at all. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-mercs-to-teach-blackflag-a-lesson/382740/89 "2022-11-03T17:55:28Z")
Assuming they don’t just quit their corp but ragequit the game as well then they actually did win EVE by buying the Astra. 😉 🤭 😊 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-mercs-to-teach-blackflag-a-lesson/382740/90 "2022-11-03T17:55:52Z")
> [@Carlos\_Warren](#): > > If a citadel can do 1,000 DPS, and the attacking fleet brings enough logi to repair 2,000 DPS, the citadel will not be able to kill anything. That seems like a broken mechanic to me. Any attack on a citadel should almost certainly result in some losses for an attacker, not saying citadels should be invincible but they should be able to pack a punch and not be overwhelmed by people with stupid amounts of logi. If im in a frigate and I deal 100 DPS, and im shooting at a cap-stable battleship that can repair his sheilds for 200 DPS, I should atleast be able to bring his sheilds down to 50% before dying myself. This is literally the argument you are trying to make. Do you understand why this is a stupid argument? ---
**Author:** ![Emil\_Sebastian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emil_sebastian/32/382265_2.png) [@Emil\_Sebastian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emil_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2022, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-mercs-to-teach-blackflag-a-lesson/382740/91 "2022-11-05T21:38:16Z")
Just leaving these here: > **[Astrahus | The Sound Of Thunder | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/104440707/)** > > (The Sound Of Thunder) lost their Astrahus in Lirerim (Metropolis). Final Blow by Corin Nebulon (Commonwealth Mercenaries) flying in a Ikitursa. Total Value: 3,162,845,852.36 ISK > **[Athanor | The Sound Of Thunder | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/104441390/)** > > (The Sound Of Thunder) lost their Athanor in Diromitur (Metropolis). Final Blow by Khromius (Commonwealth Mercenaries) flying in a Ikitursa. Total Value: 1,535,662,336.29 ISK ---
**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2022, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-mercs-to-teach-blackflag-a-lesson/382740/92 "2022-11-05T21:57:30Z")
Good Times: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/7/d/e7dabf34d90c48a387eac8d93475aac00583c3f1.png) Destroyed their War HQ, decided to destroy all their structures for posting lies on their website. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2022, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-mercs-to-teach-blackflag-a-lesson/382740/93 "2022-11-05T22:11:08Z")
It was a fair fight. I offered to render assistance unto the Thunder Bears, but they tried to scam me and asked me to wage war without due compensation. When I realized that I was being asked to do this for free, I stayed my hand and declined to smite the pirates. Remember, I will destroy BLACKFLAG for a one time fee of just 999999999.99 isk, but you must pay now in order to receive your FREE victory. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 2:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-mercs-to-teach-blackflag-a-lesson/382740/94 "2022-11-06T02:47:41Z")
Very Noble of you I’m sure. Not sure who to feel sorry for in this thread ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-mercs-to-teach-blackflag-a-lesson/382740/95 "2022-11-06T09:47:08Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Not sure who to feel sorry for in this thread It was funny. the yapping scamdogs got a good spanking. ---
**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-mercs-to-teach-blackflag-a-lesson/382740/96 "2022-11-06T09:52:00Z")
Oh he is not done. We are eyeing that new structure he is dropping already. ---
**Author:** ![Banx\_Phatroll](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/banx_phatroll/32/329221_2.png) [@Banx\_Phatroll](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Banx_Phatroll)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-mercs-to-teach-blackflag-a-lesson/382740/97 "2022-11-06T10:10:58Z")
Yo Send me 3bil and I’ll deal with them. ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-mercs-to-teach-blackflag-a-lesson/382740/99 "2022-11-06T15:52:31Z")
I mean, rooting for the underdog is fun, but the guy lies… there’s more into this but I won’t disclose in the forum hahaha I found a piece of information extremely funny in the past ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-mercs-to-teach-blackflag-a-lesson/382740/100 "2022-11-06T22:32:48Z")
> [@Arya\_Yeshe](#): > > I mean, rooting for the underdog is fun People tend to say stuff like this to pay lip service to the ideal, but when it comes time to actually _do_ it, they don’t, because they want to get into the good graces of the _biggest_ dog. ---
**Author:** ![Most\_Moliko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/most_moliko/32/378698_2.png) [@Most\_Moliko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Most_Moliko)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 2:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-mercs-to-teach-blackflag-a-lesson/382740/101 "2022-11-07T02:14:43Z")
To be honest, they already have the mutual war system which is completely unused. The high sec war system has just been free money for some groups with zero challenge. All advantages go to the attacker. With cap chains and rep chains you will never be able to penetrate the Logi that was designed for null sec wars. It’s time to make a change to this system too. A good way to even the playing field and it was suggested here, that medium structures are protected by concord in high sec. Then people who want to wage war can do so with their large size structures. Edit: With a beefed up abandoned system, people could be free to attack abandoned structures of any size. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-mercs-to-teach-blackflag-a-lesson/382740/102 "2022-11-07T02:30:39Z")
> [@Most\_Moliko](#): > > A good way to even the playing field and it was suggested here, that medium structures are protected by concord in high sec. Then people who want to wage war can do so with their large size structures. LOL wut. That is a terrible idea. > [@Most\_Moliko](#): > > With cap chains and rep chains you will never be able to penetrate the Logi that was designed for null sec wars. It’s time to make a change to this system too. Course you can. Get more people 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-mercs-to-teach-blackflag-a-lesson/382740/103 "2022-11-07T04:14:12Z")
> [@Most\_Moliko](#): > > With cap chains and rep chains you will never be able to penetrate the Logi that was designed for null sec wars People in null do it all the time. How do they do it I wonder? ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 4:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-mercs-to-teach-blackflag-a-lesson/382740/104 "2022-11-07T04:20:16Z")
> [@Most\_Moliko](#): > > A good way to even the playing field and it was suggested here, that medium structures are protected by concord in high sec. Then people who want to wage war can do so with their large size structures. OK, so I put up an athanor on a moon you want. How do you kill it? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 4:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-mercs-to-teach-blackflag-a-lesson/382740/105 "2022-11-07T04:28:33Z")
> [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](#): > > People in null do it all the time. How do they do it I wonder? High-sec wars are now exclusively an N+1 game. There’s absolutely no room for any kind of maneuvering or asymmetrical warfare. The bigger group is simply able to force a fight at a structure, either destroying assets to force the surrender/destruction of the smaller group, or destroying an enemy’s war HQ (within a day, maximum two days if it’s a large structure) to forcefully end the wars of any smaller group. CCP crafted this new system _with specific intent,_ because their goal was to reduce the overall amount of wars in high-sec (which the new developers consider to be grief-play and wish they were never in the game to begin with), which has been a successful effort if you look at just how few wars get declared on average these days. In null-sec, a larger group can destroy a smaller group’s structure(s), but that in itself doesn’t completely end armed conflict, because the smaller group is still able to engage in combat. In high-sec, that’s simply not possible, because your ability to declare war goes into a two-week cooldown period when you lose your HQ. Basically, in an effort to fix the problem of high-sec mercenary groups balling up into large, unbeatable blobs that blanket-dec everything around them, CCP created a system in which the only way to survive as a high-sec mercenary group is to ball up into a large, unbeatable blob that blanket-decs everything around it. Kind of similar to how CCP is “fixing” ganking _right now_ with the intent of deterring gankers from ganking younger, easier targets by severely restricting the ability to gank anything that’s _not_ a younger, easier target. They don’t play their own game. ---
**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-mercs-to-teach-blackflag-a-lesson/382740/106 "2022-11-07T05:18:07Z")
Ooii mister self righteous. They were the aggressors. We were hired to remove their warhq and structures. ---
**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-mercs-to-teach-blackflag-a-lesson/382740/107 "2022-11-07T05:32:50Z")
They are not stopping people from ganking new players. But can we maybe not digress our friends post. There is another thread for people tirade about alphas not being able to gank or higher costs to ganking for omegas. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-mercs-to-teach-blackflag-a-lesson/382740.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-mercs-to-teach-blackflag-a-lesson/382740.md?page=6)