# Looking To Do Missions in empire while skilling up that wont destroy my standings with the pirate corporations **URL:** \ **Category:** Missions\ **Created:** [February 4, 2020, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-to-do-missions-in-empire-while-skilling-up-that-wont-destroy-my-standings-with-the-pirate-corporations/217131 "2020-02-04T13:49:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Neutron\_Dreams](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neutron_dreams/32/273613_2.png) [@Neutron\_Dreams](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neutron_Dreams)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2020, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-to-do-missions-in-empire-while-skilling-up-that-wont-destroy-my-standings-with-the-pirate-corporations/217131/1 "2020-02-04T13:49:03Z")
Ok so what I am looking for information regarding is standings, I want to start a new character and skill it up in empire space while raising factional standings, not going negative to anyone, and especially Not ruining standings with the pirate corporations for when I wander out to null with it. I would actually like to run missions for pirate factions eventually, something I was not able to do in the past with my other toons due to doing way too many kill missions for empire factions. I know that raising some factions has a equal negative connotation for other factions but I would like to have my cake, and later down the road be able to eat it too. I thought maybe soe, or interbus and I guess distribution missions? but I am unsure and would like some input on the best ways to achieve my potentially unobtainable goal. Any help would be wonderful. Neut. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2020, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-to-do-missions-in-empire-while-skilling-up-that-wont-destroy-my-standings-with-the-pirate-corporations/217131/2 "2020-02-04T13:53:37Z")
only standing increase that don’t have derived is epic. So, reach 5 standing with the corporations for the epics L4, also the epics pirates, then only do epic arcs. ---
**Author:** ![Neutron\_Dreams](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neutron_dreams/32/273613_2.png) [@Neutron\_Dreams](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neutron_Dreams)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2020, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-to-do-missions-in-empire-while-skilling-up-that-wont-destroy-my-standings-with-the-pirate-corporations/217131/3 "2020-02-04T13:58:02Z")
thank you ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2020, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-to-do-missions-in-empire-while-skilling-up-that-wont-destroy-my-standings-with-the-pirate-corporations/217131/4 "2020-02-04T15:23:53Z")
> [@Neutron\_Dreams](#): > > I would actually like to run missions for pirate factions ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/5/a57a3a25d4d012cb07faa097656c9298fc5e44c8.png) ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2020, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-to-do-missions-in-empire-while-skilling-up-that-wont-destroy-my-standings-with-the-pirate-corporations/217131/5 "2020-02-04T18:05:13Z")
Check out ‘The Plan’, it can help you achieve your goal. > [@FACTION STANDING REPAIR PLAN aka 'The Plan'](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-standing-repair-plan-aka-the-plan/8008): > > New Eden Capsuleer’s If you’re looking to travel safely through unfriendly Empire Faction space then look no further. ‘The Plan’ will help all Capsuleers to quickly gain Faction Standing with one or all Empire Factions. ‘The Plan’ [FACTION STANDING REPAIR PLAN](http://web.archive.org/web/20160225230203/https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Faction_Standing_Repair_Plan) (Right Click Link And Select ‘Open Link In New Tab’) NOTE ‘The Wayback Machine’ is used to access info contained in the discontinued Evelopedia. Skip Redirect Browser Add-on’s need to be disabled. After the ‘Faction Standing Repair Pl… ---
**Author:** ![Hamad\_ul-Shattan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hamad_ul-shattan/32/166336_2.png) [@Hamad\_ul-Shattan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hamad_ul-Shattan)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2020, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-to-do-missions-in-empire-while-skilling-up-that-wont-destroy-my-standings-with-the-pirate-corporations/217131/6 "2020-02-05T21:56:32Z")
Only accept security missions against drones and mercenaries, Not PvE by definition, but do all the mining and distribution missions you can manage. ---
**Author:** ![Neutron\_Dreams](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neutron_dreams/32/273613_2.png) [@Neutron\_Dreams](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neutron_Dreams)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2020, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-to-do-missions-in-empire-while-skilling-up-that-wont-destroy-my-standings-with-the-pirate-corporations/217131/7 "2020-02-05T22:27:22Z")
Nice warhammer 40k artwork there. ---
**Author:** ![Neutron\_Dreams](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neutron_dreams/32/273613_2.png) [@Neutron\_Dreams](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neutron_Dreams)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2020, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-to-do-missions-in-empire-while-skilling-up-that-wont-destroy-my-standings-with-the-pirate-corporations/217131/8 "2020-02-05T22:27:51Z")
Thank you ---
**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-to-do-missions-in-empire-while-skilling-up-that-wont-destroy-my-standings-with-the-pirate-corporations/217131/9 "2020-02-13T05:12:34Z")
Just do the soe epic arc… and rotate the ending to a different faction and finally… do the empire epic arcs… dont do anything else unless its maxing out social skills ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 5:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-to-do-missions-in-empire-while-skilling-up-that-wont-destroy-my-standings-with-the-pirate-corporations/217131/10 "2020-02-13T05:30:54Z")
It takes a while, but it’s possible to do. I have a toon that has only positive standing with 19 factions and 139 NPC corporations. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-to-do-missions-in-empire-while-skilling-up-that-wont-destroy-my-standings-with-the-pirate-corporations/217131/11 "2020-02-13T07:07:43Z")
I wanted to ping you into this thread … … but you beat me to it. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-to-do-missions-in-empire-while-skilling-up-that-wont-destroy-my-standings-with-the-pirate-corporations/217131/12 "2020-02-14T17:03:16Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > It takes a while, but it’s possible to do. I have a toon that has only positive standing with 19 factions and 139 NPC corporations. Wow, positive with 19 Factions and 139 NPC Corps, that’s impressive. I’m positive with 16 Factions, soon will be 18 Factions. I have all Empire, Thukker, Angel and Guristas at positive, currently working on Sansha and The Syndicate. Unfortunately Blood Raiders and Serpentis are negative, I could raise them but that will make my Concord standing go negative and only give me 19 positive. Since I don’t want to make Concord Assembly negative, I’ll just settle with having 18 Factions positive. Rogue Drones, Drifters and Triglavians are all neutral. I haven’t counted how many NPC Corps are positive, will definitely have to check that out the next time I log in. > [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > I wanted to ping you into this thread … > … but you beat me to it. lol, might be a day or few before I see it, probably easier to just link ‘The Plan’ thread. Anyway, thanks for the thought. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-to-do-missions-in-empire-while-skilling-up-that-wont-destroy-my-standings-with-the-pirate-corporations/217131/13 "2020-02-14T23:26:06Z")
Unfortunately, 19 factions is all you can get. Well, technically 20 if you have an older toon that already had positive faction with Concord, but you can no longer do missions for Concord. And the other 3 are neutral. I’m currently working on increasing that 139 corporations to 157. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-to-do-missions-in-empire-while-skilling-up-that-wont-destroy-my-standings-with-the-pirate-corporations/217131/14 "2020-02-15T16:29:14Z")
Yeah, I got positive standing with Concord years before the security status / Concord Faction standing split was implemented. When I recently started working on raising Serpentis standing to positive, I received a couple of negative hits to Concord Faction standing so I stopped. Basically in order for me to keep Concord Faction positive, all I can get is 18 Factions positive. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-to-do-missions-in-empire-while-skilling-up-that-wont-destroy-my-standings-with-the-pirate-corporations/217131/15 "2020-02-15T16:32:47Z")
you can get serpentis standing (up to 3) by working with Thukker Tribe. They have 0 concord standing. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-to-do-missions-in-empire-while-skilling-up-that-wont-destroy-my-standings-with-the-pirate-corporations/217131/16 "2020-02-15T16:46:08Z")
Unfortunately doing that will incur derived standing hits to almost all Empire Factions Also I believe Thukker and Serpentis are neutral to each other. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-to-do-missions-in-empire-while-skilling-up-that-wont-destroy-my-standings-with-the-pirate-corporations/217131/17 "2020-02-15T16:51:04Z")
+3 according to [https://web.archive.org/web/20180318042341/http://newedenlibrary.net:80/eon/faction\_standings.shtml](https://web.archive.org/web/20180318042341/http://newedenlibrary.net:80/eon/faction_standings.shtml) You can still get all the faction standing back with epics. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-to-do-missions-in-empire-while-skilling-up-that-wont-destroy-my-standings-with-the-pirate-corporations/217131/18 "2020-02-15T17:12:20Z")
Yeah, that ‘New Eden Library’ graph is incorrect. I checked this ‘Evewiki’ Graph in the game and it has the correct standings listed. [http://web.archive.org/web/20130310042624/http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Standings#Standing\_Relationships](http://web.archive.org/web/20130310042624/http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Standings#Standing_Relationships) The ‘In-Game Inter-Faction Relationships’ graph is read from the top down and the ‘Derived Inter-Faction Standing Modifier’ graph is read from left to right. ---
**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-to-do-missions-in-empire-while-skilling-up-that-wont-destroy-my-standings-with-the-pirate-corporations/217131/19 "2020-02-29T22:30:51Z")
max out your social skills thats as best as you can do… do not shoot any npc’s ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-to-do-missions-in-empire-while-skilling-up-that-wont-destroy-my-standings-with-the-pirate-corporations/217131/20 "2020-05-29T22:31:01Z")
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