# Loss of ship when internet crashes **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 25, 2021, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/loss-of-ship-when-internet-crashes/329682 "2021-09-25T11:54:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 2:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/loss-of-ship-when-internet-crashes/329682/21 "2021-09-26T02:20:26Z")
guess what, you are not required to fly expensive ships… fly whatever your little snowflake heart desires to fly… I don’t fly anything that i’m not prepared to lose… i know anytime i undock, boom, there goes my shippy ship… oh well, ship happens. ---
**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/loss-of-ship-when-internet-crashes/329682/22 "2021-09-26T10:45:25Z")
To be honest I don’t think CCP should reimburse ANYTHING unless it is very definitely their server that craps out. It sets a bad precident and creates friction when some things are given back and others not. It can feel like favouritism. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/loss-of-ship-when-internet-crashes/329682/23 "2021-09-26T11:24:32Z")
If your internet is unstable, use ships you can afford randomly losing until you get better internet. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Skarlet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/captain_skarlet/32/292113_2.png) [@Captain\_Skarlet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Captain_Skarlet)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/loss-of-ship-when-internet-crashes/329682/24 "2021-10-11T22:09:44Z")
This arogance is what loses players, as not every player is cash rich and have to work the game to get what they want, if there internet goes down it’s not there fault either…! So if you lose your ship through no fault of your own, why shouldn’t you at least get your ship returned to you…? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Skarlet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/captain_skarlet/32/292113_2.png) [@Captain\_Skarlet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Captain_Skarlet)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/loss-of-ship-when-internet-crashes/329682/25 "2021-10-11T22:11:27Z")
Another "I’m alright jack! reply…!! ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/loss-of-ship-when-internet-crashes/329682/26 "2021-10-11T22:29:10Z")
> [@Captain\_Skarlet](#): > > This arogance is what loses players, as not every player is cash rich and have to work the game to get what they want Didn’t you know? A _great community_ is also part of the NPE. Here you have a great example of how that community behaves. We want to keep the new players, just… shut them up and make sure they can be used for target practice. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/loss-of-ship-when-internet-crashes/329682/27 "2021-10-12T00:50:20Z")
> [@Captain\_Skarlet](#): > > So if you lose your ship through no fault of your own, why shouldn’t you at least get your ship returned to you…? And why _should_ you get it returned, a lost ship is a lost ship and CCP have no way to verify its because you DC’d and not because you unplugged your router to avoid a loss Losing a ship because your internet died sucks but thats life ---
**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/loss-of-ship-when-internet-crashes/329682/28 "2021-10-12T08:12:32Z")
> [@Captain\_Skarlet](#): > > Another "I’m alright jack! reply…!! I’ve lost ships to disconnections and bad internet, its one of those things. Some of them have hurt, a lot (looking at you several bill isk abyss runner) but I have never petitioned for them back. First rule of Eve is **“Don’t fly what you can’t afford to lose”** ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/loss-of-ship-when-internet-crashes/329682/29 "2021-10-12T08:42:05Z")
> [@Captain\_Skarlet](#): > > not every player is cash rich and have to work the game to get what they want And conversely not every player finds gathering isk without using a credit card difficult. Neither do players find it hard to fly within their means. If you cant afford to replace your bling chariot, dont fly a bling chariot. Its not rocket surgery. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/loss-of-ship-when-internet-crashes/329682/30 "2021-10-12T08:43:33Z")
> [@Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](#): > > One member lost a Vargur yesterday due to an internet provider crash. Don’t fly a ship you can’t afford to lose. ---
**Author:** ![Von\_DeMoreno](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/von_demoreno/32/491525_2.png) [@Von\_DeMoreno](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Von_DeMoreno)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/loss-of-ship-when-internet-crashes/329682/31 "2021-10-12T09:35:21Z")
I lost a ship due to a disconnect and CCP replaced it. A member in my former alliance lost three, on separate occasions, and had them replaced. It’s my understanding CCP doesn’t want people abusing such replacements, so they make it “a one-time thing, wink wink.” They do need to address whatever it is that causes so many disconnects, but as others have pointed out, they also can’t replace every ship lost by a “disconnect.” As the saying goes, “Don’t undock what you can’t afford to lose,” in whatever way it might be lost. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/loss-of-ship-when-internet-crashes/329682/32 "2021-10-12T09:50:47Z")
CCP needs to stop reimbursing people. It only rewards whiners who cry, and penalizes people who don’t beg for replacements. ---
**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/loss-of-ship-when-internet-crashes/329682/33 "2021-10-12T10:05:01Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > CCP needs to stop reimbursing people. Gods and Spirits CCP, thats the second time you have made me agree with the Princess. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/loss-of-ship-when-internet-crashes/329682/34 "2021-10-12T10:54:34Z")
This means you are now ready to buy Aiko’s mining permit, it is good investment too… you know you want to. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/loss-of-ship-when-internet-crashes/329682/35 "2021-10-12T14:40:04Z")
Back over a decade ago I lost a HAC in null-sec after undocking to scout because the station just wouldn’t let me dock. The message was literally something like “the station is unable to process your docking request” so there were obviously server entries that they could see. I got hot-dropped and killed, and then when I filed a petition, they denied it and said there would be no further discussion. And now CCP is now reimbursing carebear marauder losses on a whim? Good to know. > [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](#): > > Had a guy in a hs Corp back in 2011-2012ish. Who would regularly put in tickets for ships he lost to ganks or war decs and he always got them reimbursed for everything that didn’t drop. Always worth the same message script with mention of it being an exception for this one incident. I believe it. When I did wars, I remember one guy from some random corporation bragging to me in local that no matter how many times I’d kill him, CCP would always give him his stuff back. ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/loss-of-ship-when-internet-crashes/329682/36 "2021-10-12T15:04:10Z")
It all comes down to how many tickets you submit and how annoying you are. As soon as the customer support decides is easier to give in you get your ship back. People blame parents but this is why we have so many Karens. They do generally get what they want more often than not. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/loss-of-ship-when-internet-crashes/329682/37 "2022-01-10T15:04:13Z")
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