# Lost about what to do next (newbro frustration?)

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 25, 2024, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-about-what-to-do-next-newbro-frustration/437332 "2024-01-25T15:10:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-about-what-to-do-next-newbro-frustration/437332/41 "2024-01-28T23:20:59Z")

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If you’re going to share something embarrassing about yourself, that’s a willing act of self-deprecation, and it’s irrational to get upset if someone makes fun of it. If you don’t want anyone to make fun of you for it, then don’t share.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-about-what-to-do-next-newbro-frustration/437332/42 "2024-01-28T23:23:03Z")

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When I need your advice on any aspect of Eve, or even life itself, I’ll ask.

Have a nice day.

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**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-about-what-to-do-next-newbro-frustration/437332/43 "2024-01-28T23:23:33Z")

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> [@Ryan\_Arbee](#):
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> Don’t mind me.  
> 🕶 🍿

So now you have another thing on your list of “what to do nexts”. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Ryan\_Arbee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ryan_arbee/32/408802_2.png) [@Ryan\_Arbee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ryan_Arbee)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-about-what-to-do-next-newbro-frustration/437332/44 "2024-01-28T23:28:18Z")

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> [@Corey\_Fumimasa](#):
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> o/ Ryan Arbee.
> 
> Revenge is an important motivator in New Eden. You should keep a journal, noting all the people who have ever ganked you or slighted you in any way. Research these people a bit, their corp history and preferred locations, and record it so you don’t forget any of them.
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> Get your Trig and Edencom standing sorted so you don’t get blapped moving your stuffs to market. [Getting positive Triglavian and EDENCOM standings - EVE University Wiki](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Getting_positive_Triglavian_and_EDENCOM_standings)
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> Shoot a bill board and run away. Do this in lowsec.
> 
> Scan down and shoot a Mobile Tractor Unit. Do this in highsec.
> 
> Find people who are passionate about something on the forums. Then tell them they are wrong and copy paste a few arguments about why from old forum posts. The older the better.
> 
> What do you do in RL when you are board? Watch Netflix? Drink Beer? Play Bloons Tower defense V? All these things are even better when you are also logged into Eve!
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> Go to Uedama when Kusion or someone is ganking freighters. See if you can get on the kill mails. Shoot either the gankers or the bunny, or some of each! Although you will get Concordekinded if you shoot at the freighter so be prepared for that.
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> Try and steal some of the loot from said freighter before the gankers can get it. You’ll have to set your overview up properly for this.
> 
> Scan your way into a wormhole chain and see if you can hack any of the data/relic sites there. You’ll probably get blown up, but you’ll learn, and just maybe you make it out with a Billion ISK BP or something sweet!
> 
> Slowboat out to the great farmlands in 0.0 space and loiter there, for hours! Null bears love the company and will be happy for the conversation in local.
> 
> Learn the cloak / MWD trick and see if you can make it through Ahbazon, Gonditsa, and the like.
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> Make your pilgrimage to the Eve gate.
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> Go on a Spectre fleet roam. The FC should ask if anyone is a complete noob, if they don’t then by all means mention it. They’ll help you out.
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> Start cataloging the nebula. See if you can get screenshots of all of them from various locations and record your observations in a blog or just send them to people who have never played Eve. Its a great way to start conversion.
> 
> See if you can visit a local prison and speak with some of the inmates there. They might have some good ideas about scams you can run in Eve.
> 
> Watch Clear Skies, Tank CEO and Daakkon (I saw Tank just today, he is still in the game), Adhocracy, Dr.Ogres Let’s Play Eve, and more recently Eve a Nomad tale. Lots of great material in all those videos.
> 
> Listen to the Eve Chronicles Podcast. That guy does an amazing job vocalizing all those stories.
> 
> I wish I could wrap this up in a neat bow, but the list just goes on and on. Best of luck in your journeys and adventures Ryan!
> 
> CFM

Thanks so much for all of the suggestions!

It’s kind of wild how much advice varies between here and rookie chat. I was advised to just forget about gankers and move on, contrary to what I thought would have been more fun, which is keep a revenge list.

I did end up taking a frigate into null sec via a filament yesterday. Seems like a whole different game out there. However the combat sites are all level 4. I’m still just scraping at level 3 combat sites (when I was trying them anyways). So just going to wait around.

Although I think I might have used the wrong filament heading back, and got dropped into Triglavian space. So tonight’s fun will be “how to make it back to high sec while in a capsule”. A least gives me something to do. lol.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-about-what-to-do-next-newbro-frustration/437332/45 "2024-01-28T23:42:24Z")

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> [@Ryan\_Arbee](#):
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> It’s kind of wild how much advice varies between here and rookie chat. I was advised to just forget about gankers and move on, contrary to what I thought would have been more fun, which is keep a revenge list.

Revenge is initially a really good motivator. I think even CCP recognise that when they say being ganked actually makes people _more_ likely to stay in the game.

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**Author:** ![sambo\_Inkura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sambo_inkura/32/382651_2.png) [@sambo\_Inkura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/sambo_Inkura)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-about-what-to-do-next-newbro-frustration/437332/46 "2024-01-29T00:12:03Z")

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You don’t want me to start down this kind of e-peen measuring contest, do you?

All of those are examples that you would be expected to win given the ship matchups. A cruiser would be expected to kill a destroyer.

Although credit where due, nice catch on the Pacifier.

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**Author:** ![Tirador69](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tirador69/32/399615_2.png) [@Tirador69](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tirador69)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-about-what-to-do-next-newbro-frustration/437332/47 "2024-01-29T11:26:26Z")

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you see, thats the issue you guys have

i never intended to flex, i simply showed some kills that arent ventures because i got “attacked” for doing that aswell

also i just noticed i posted the wrong paci kill, the one i linked was explo fit not pvp fit

> **[Pacifier | Evarra woogelt | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/114082255/)**
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> Evarra woogelt (League of the Shieldy) lost their Pacifier in Q-GICU (The Kalevala Expanse) Total Value: 317,703,113.12 ISK

but then again, killing a pacifier in an astero isnt really impressive aswell, since they have about 0 counterplay if i use double webs and they just never get into dmg range

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**Author:** ![Tirador69](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tirador69/32/399615_2.png) [@Tirador69](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tirador69)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-about-what-to-do-next-newbro-frustration/437332/48 "2024-01-29T12:13:02Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> I merely presented it as a story…it was Tirador _and yourself_ who then mocked it. Yet now, according to you…

well, i wouldnt even care, if you didnt continuessly call me dumb for no reason, just to show who is lacking in that regard after.

btw i think people dont give Destiny enough credit  
thats some intelligent, high quality content right there and you dont even appreciate it

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**Author:** ![sambo\_Inkura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sambo_inkura/32/382651_2.png) [@sambo\_Inkura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/sambo_Inkura)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-about-what-to-do-next-newbro-frustration/437332/49 "2024-01-29T12:30:27Z")

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> [@Tirador69](#):
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> i never intended to flex,

except you _did_ flex. someone called you out and you just had to jump in and flex.

Here’s the thing about killboards: the less you care about them, the more fun you’ll have.

Am I ‘proud’ of my KB? Yeah, it’s not bad. Do I give a [redacted] about my KB? Not in the slightest. You’ll meet people in EVE who will refuse to fly X or Y ship because “if it dies, it’ll look bad on my KB”. I’ve always found such people to be tedious in the extreme.

And finally, try the dual rep/cap injector Astero fit. works a charm. you’ll tank until you run out of capsticks.

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**Author:** ![Tirador69](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tirador69/32/399615_2.png) [@Tirador69](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tirador69)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-about-what-to-do-next-newbro-frustration/437332/50 "2024-01-29T12:43:08Z")

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> [@sambo\_Inkura](#):
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> except you _did_ flex. someone called you out and you just had to jump in and flex.

not really, no. i simply put things in the right perspective.  
my killboard is infact looking terrible and i dont care, i ll yeet stuff into null just to have some fun and improve. i could make it green if i never took the slightest risk, but thats just boring imo.

> [@sambo\_Inkura](#):
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> And finally, try the dual rep/cap injector Astero fit. works a charm. you’ll tank until you run out of capsticks.

yes, the fit i used for the astero is not meant as an exclusive pvp fit tho, since i would lose to another astero with higher skills anyway. i agree the dual rep is very good, but i intended to just shoot some explorers (mainly ones that take my cans and have little to no means to defend themself) while exploring myself, since the loot fairy hates me 😕

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**Author:** ![Ryan\_Arbee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ryan_arbee/32/408802_2.png) [@Ryan\_Arbee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ryan_Arbee)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-about-what-to-do-next-newbro-frustration/437332/51 "2024-01-29T12:48:03Z")

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While everyone is still around (lol), how long does it take to generally get approved from a corp?

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-about-what-to-do-next-newbro-frustration/437332/52 "2024-01-29T12:50:06Z")

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> [@Tirador69](#):
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> if you didnt continuessly call me dumb for no reason

Hey…I’m not the one who made the ‘shrink the systems’ suggestion…which has almost universally been regarded as one of the silliest suggestions ever made.

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**Author:** ![sambo\_Inkura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sambo_inkura/32/382651_2.png) [@sambo\_Inkura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/sambo_Inkura)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-about-what-to-do-next-newbro-frustration/437332/53 "2024-01-29T12:52:24Z")

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> [@Ryan\_Arbee](#):
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> While everyone is still around (lol), how long does it take to generally get approved from a corp?

depends on the corp, their recruitment policy and how busy their corp officers are.  
if you haven’t heard anything back in a couple of days, then poke them to find out what’s up.

> [@Tirador69](#):
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> not really, no. i simply put things in the right perspective.

my dude. you flexed. you got called out and you flexed.

and your flex-fu was pretty weak as I’ve already pointed out. I’d absolutely expect a Stabber to beat a Bellicose. Especially a RLML fit Bellicose as but one example.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-about-what-to-do-next-newbro-frustration/437332/54 "2024-01-29T12:54:12Z")

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> [@Ryan\_Arbee](#):
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> how long does it take to generally get approved from a corp?

Anywhere from minutes to several days. You don’t really want a corp that will accept you in 2 seconds…as they’re clearly desperate for members and not checking who joins. On the other hand, some corps way overdo the paranoia over spies.

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-about-what-to-do-next-newbro-frustration/437332/55 "2024-01-29T16:25:03Z")

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> [@Corey\_Fumimasa](#):
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> Find people who are passionate about something on the forums. Then tell them they are wrong and copy paste a few arguments about why from old forum posts. The older the better.

😃

> [@Ryan\_Arbee](#):
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> fit recommendations to join in on some PVP

As others have mentioned, I definitely recommend faction warfare. There are some great new player friendly corps in all of the militias, but Minmatar and Caldari probably have the the best experience for new player on boarding. (Amarr and Gallente probably have higher skilled pilots, but they seem to be a bit more elitist. At least from an outside perspective.)

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**Author:** ![Ryan\_Arbee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ryan_arbee/32/408802_2.png) [@Ryan\_Arbee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ryan_Arbee)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-about-what-to-do-next-newbro-frustration/437332/56 "2024-01-29T20:41:14Z")

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Dang. My application to KarmaFleet was rejected. 🤷‍♂️

Not to sound salty, but that’s kind of annoying. I wonder if it’s because I was pretty vague with my answer of “what do you want to do in Eve”, which imo, is a hard question to answer if you don’t know many people, and you don’t even know what roles there are in eve.

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**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-about-what-to-do-next-newbro-frustration/437332/57 "2024-01-29T21:21:15Z")

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> [@Ryan\_Arbee](#):
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> My application to KarmaFleet was rejected.

I’ve seen multiple newbros mention they got declined by Karmafleet over the last 3 or 4 years. Karmafleet doesn’t provide reasons or feedback although sometimes you might get a bit more info if you (politely) message/mail one of their recruiter types.

Newbro-friendly doesn’t mean “accepts all”, and of course null corps etc. do have some concerns about spies etc. Still, they’re not the only option, so just keep looking and it’s Karmafleet’s loss.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-about-what-to-do-next-newbro-frustration/437332/58 "2024-01-29T21:42:35Z")

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Try to make friends and ask for a referral letter.

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**Author:** ![Tirador69](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tirador69/32/399615_2.png) [@Tirador69](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tirador69)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-about-what-to-do-next-newbro-frustration/437332/59 "2024-01-29T22:34:23Z")

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> [@sambo\_Inkura](#):
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> my dude. you flexed. you got called out and you flexed.

“you only eat apples!” no i eat watermelons too  
that a flex to you?

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**Author:** ![Mephiztopheleze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mephiztopheleze/32/381036_2.png) [@Mephiztopheleze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mephiztopheleze)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-about-what-to-do-next-newbro-frustration/437332/60 "2024-01-29T23:13:36Z")

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No, it’s simply an annoying and pointless analogy to try and make.  
How old are you? You’re coming across as a whiny teenager. Please bear in mind that the average eve player is ~30-40+

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