# Lost everythng in a system that fell to Trigs? WTF!

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 19, 2020, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-everythng-in-a-system-that-fell-to-trigs-wtf/274537 "2020-10-19T02:29:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Succulent\_Succubi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/succulent_succubi/32/242516_2.png) [@Succulent\_Succubi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Succulent_Succubi)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-everythng-in-a-system-that-fell-to-trigs-wtf/274537/63 "2020-10-20T10:21:53Z")

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> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> I’ve made billions from those …  
> … together with my corpmate.
> 
> So did many, many others.
> 
> Why didn’t you?

Good for you. Doesn’t change the fact that its still complete crap game design.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-everythng-in-a-system-that-fell-to-trigs-wtf/274537/64 "2020-10-20T10:24:28Z")

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So you did not make billions, or likely any money at all.  
Why did you not shoot even one?

There were plenty for everyone!

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**Author:** ![Succulent\_Succubi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/succulent_succubi/32/242516_2.png) [@Succulent\_Succubi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Succulent_Succubi)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-everythng-in-a-system-that-fell-to-trigs-wtf/274537/65 "2020-10-20T10:26:12Z")

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What does any of that has to do with this thread?

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-everythng-in-a-system-that-fell-to-trigs-wtf/274537/66 "2020-10-20T10:40:19Z")

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Heh … you’re a farmer.

Plenty, actually, but I’ve decided not to dive into that.  
In the end it’s useless.

Admittedly, the OP is worse than you because he completely isolates himself from the game …  
… otherwise he would have known …  
… and you at least _appear_ to be communicating with others …  
… but … yeah.

Your posting history looks like you’re a farmer, just like the OP is. There’s one post in the PvE section exposing that.  
To no ones surprise is it farmers who seem to be complaining the most about the new status quo or what CCP has been doing since the BlackOut.

Good. 😊

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-everythng-in-a-system-that-fell-to-trigs-wtf/274537/67 "2020-10-20T11:04:27Z")

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> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> Why did you not shoot even one?
> 
> There were plenty for everyone!

Let’s see … maybe because I as a player, or my character as a New Eden individual, both agreed that CCP-sponsored and CCP- **enabled** looting was wrong. The structures were attacked because CCP allowed pilots to, not because of something those pilots had actually achieved. No, it’s not because of moral grounds inside the game, but because how they treated their customers. Sometimes shits&giggles are not enough justification, ya know ?

As for OP, he still has his assets, nothing is lost. Building standing with the trigs is the obvious (slow) way. Then use one of the new filaments

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-everythng-in-a-system-that-fell-to-trigs-wtf/274537/68 "2020-10-20T11:06:50Z")

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There are more threats than just Triglavians in those systems.

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-everythng-in-a-system-that-fell-to-trigs-wtf/274537/69 "2020-10-20T11:09:29Z")

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True, but that is no different from before it was a trig system, it was a lowsec system

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**Author:** ![Succulent\_Succubi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/succulent_succubi/32/242516_2.png) [@Succulent\_Succubi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Succulent_Succubi)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-everythng-in-a-system-that-fell-to-trigs-wtf/274537/70 "2020-10-20T11:12:34Z")

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And i think you are just a useless troll who think hes tough and ■■■■. Nothing to say about anything, every single post just same trolly drivel.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-everythng-in-a-system-that-fell-to-trigs-wtf/274537/71 "2020-10-20T11:15:54Z")

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> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#):
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> Let’s see … maybe because I as a player, or my character as a New Eden individual, both agreed that CCP-sponsored and CCP- **enabled** looting was wrong.

Wow.

> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#):
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> justification

Okay.

Man, this is a game.  
It’s not your real world.  
You’re not really a capsuleer.  
You’re just a quirky person escaping into a spaceship game believing his moral nonsense has any real world value.

It doesn’t! 😃

They treated their customers just fine. Your fake moral outrage is ■■■■■■ up ■■■■■■■■. I’m one of their customers.  
I felt treated really well. The people who let their structures abandon aren’t customers, or didn’t care about the structure anyway.

The people who left their stuff in there could have evacuated if they cared.  
The people who weren’t around … well … they weren’t around!

I, as a customer, was really happy about this event!  
Dare I say that I, as a really involved customer, am more valued than people who aren’t customers, or just casual customers!

It’s ■■■■ for those who really had no way of getting their assets to safety in time and I totally admit that there’s people who were not at fault, but those people always exist. They always do. They’re inevitable, no matter what, both in real life and in video games. I’m not going to pretend I care about this miniscule amount of people.

I just don’t, because then I’d be a hypocrite!

So … well … whatever!  
Just keep hitting yourself, you seem to enjoy that! 🙂

> [@Succulent\_Succubi](#):
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> And i think you are just a useless troll who think hes tough and ■■■■. Nothing to say about anything, every single post just same trolly drivel.

Everyone can clearly see which one of us puts actual thought into his words.

Well … have a nice day anyway. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-everythng-in-a-system-that-fell-to-trigs-wtf/274537/72 "2020-10-20T11:48:09Z")

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I didn’t judge you for actions in the game, so I would appreciate it if you didn’t judge me for voicing my opinion. I fully understand that you try to justify the fun you had inside the game, and use whatever reasons are handy. Have fun with that, but do try to limit the ad hominem attacks, they make you look worse than intended.

I am saying, that I, as a **customer** , do have moral considerations - playing EvE hasn’t made me lose them - and I do have a sense of what I expect and accept from a company I am paying - not plexing, although I could - for use of their entertainment service. If you don’t, for whatever reason or lack thereof, that’s fine too.

The fact remains, if it hadn’t been for CCP creating the “abandoned” state, you wouldn’t have had those extra assets. Crowd Control Productions is not everyone’s puppet master, it seems. I love the game and its community, not necessarily everything the vendor whips up.

![alcohol-gif-4d08](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/d/2d518a4e2ba2e31611d16a35dd776510c8b78340.gif)

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**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-everythng-in-a-system-that-fell-to-trigs-wtf/274537/73 "2020-10-20T13:20:36Z")

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why you take only one part of whot i write ?

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**Author:** ![Satori\_Sartori](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/satori_sartori/32/315681_2.png) [@Satori\_Sartori](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Satori_Sartori)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-everythng-in-a-system-that-fell-to-trigs-wtf/274537/74 "2020-10-20T13:52:25Z")

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There is quite a decent chance that you can offload your goods to someone who plans to live in Pochiven, possibly even at a good price because it’s pre-hauled. Get in touch with the locals, check out the Kybernaut and other discords.

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**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-everythng-in-a-system-that-fell-to-trigs-wtf/274537/75 "2020-10-20T15:40:05Z")

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I’m not talking about the R081, N944 has been confirmed to spawn in trig space which has capital mass so you could squeeze 3 carriers through it before it pops

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**Author:** ![Malango](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malango/32/386623_2.png) [@Malango](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malango)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-everythng-in-a-system-that-fell-to-trigs-wtf/274537/76 "2021-01-02T14:16:30Z")

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I also took a break. and Lost all my abyssal PVP/PVE cruisers. 10’s of billions gone. Kinda put me off ever playing again… I know how to scan but don’t really have any experience in WH chains.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-everythng-in-a-system-that-fell-to-trigs-wtf/274537/77 "2021-01-02T14:39:57Z")

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Wow that sucks.

Mustve taken you ages to work that fleet up.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-everythng-in-a-system-that-fell-to-trigs-wtf/274537/78 "2021-01-02T14:55:25Z")

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> [@Malango](#):
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> Kinda put me off ever playing again

This makes it sound like you fully expected to never lose that ship.

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**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-everythng-in-a-system-that-fell-to-trigs-wtf/274537/80 "2021-01-13T01:36:45Z")

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> [@Malango](#):
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> I also took a break. and Lost all my abyssal PVP/PVE cruisers. 10’s of billions gone. Kinda put me off ever playing again… I know how to scan but don’t really have any experience in WH chains

You don’t need to know anything about WH chains, just go here ([Pochven System Information - EDENCOM Defense Initiative](http://edencom.space/pochven_systems.php)) and find the system you want to visit and it will list you all the systems that the WH to that system can spawn in, then you go probe each one and bam, you have a direct connection to the system you want to visit, you’re welcome, i accept donations in the form of \<3’s and/or ISK

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**Author:** ![Malango](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malango/32/386623_2.png) [@Malango](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malango)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-everythng-in-a-system-that-fell-to-trigs-wtf/274537/81 "2021-01-14T12:53:58Z")

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Got all my stuff back.

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**Author:** ![Malango](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malango/32/386623_2.png) [@Malango](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malango)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-everythng-in-a-system-that-fell-to-trigs-wtf/274537/82 "2021-01-14T13:42:12Z")

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> [@Cypherous](#):
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> > [@Malango](#):
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> > I also took a break. and Lost all my abyssal PVP/PVE cruisers. 10’s of billions gone. Kinda put me off ever playing again… I know how to scan but don’t really have any experience in WH chains
> 
> You don’t need to know anything about WH chains, just go here ([Pochven System Information - EDENCOM Defense Initiative](http://edencom.space/pochven_systems.php)) and find the system you want to visit and it will list you all the systems that the WH to that system can spawn in, then you go probe each one and bam, you have a direct connection to the system you want to visit, you’re welcome, i accept donations in the form of \<3’s and/or ISK

Thanks dude. I got lucky used a filament that put me right in my system and then scanned down the WH. I just had no clue about Tri space as I had a year off. But got my stuff back a few weeks ago 🙂

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**Author:** ![SamHouston](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/samhouston/32/253933_2.png) [@SamHouston](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SamHouston)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/lost-everythng-in-a-system-that-fell-to-trigs-wtf/274537/83 "2021-01-31T00:31:17Z")

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uh yeah no

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