# Main AFK cloaky thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [June 21, 2017, 3:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/main-afk-cloaky-thread/4731 "2017-06-21T03:19:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 2212
**Author:** ![Nisanthro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nisanthro/32/169173_2.png) [@Nisanthro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nisanthro)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/main-afk-cloaky-thread/4731/2212 "2018-04-15T12:43:40Z")
> [@Current state of player grieving. Cloaky campers? What? Why? Is this a 15 year conclusion on how to encourage new players to the game? Is grieving, fun?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-player-grieving-cloaky-campers-what-why-is-this-a-15-year-conclusion-on-how-to-encourage-new-players-to-the-game-is-grieving-fun/69844/1): > > Null sector Null sec means null security, not null sector. > [@Current state of player grieving. Cloaky campers? What? Why? Is this a 15 year conclusion on how to encourage new players to the game? Is grieving, fun?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/current-state-of-player-grieving-cloaky-campers-what-why-is-this-a-15-year-conclusion-on-how-to-encourage-new-players-to-the-game-is-grieving-fun/69844/1): > > His purpose is ganking or hot drop-ing. Is that PVP ? No, it’s just attacking players who are fighting NPCs. You, the carebear, are a player. He, the cloaky camper, is a player as well. Hence it’s PvP. The rest of your garbage thread belongs here: > [@Main AFK cloaky thread](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/main-afk-cloaky-thread/4731): > > Mandatory AFK cloaky thread. Please bring observatory arrays etc. o/ --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/main-afk-cloaky-thread/4731)._