# 'Majorana' missiles drops **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 24, 2020, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/majorana-missiles-drops/213508 "2020-01-24T20:07:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ash\_Beldrulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ash_beldrulf/32/473706_2.png) [@Ash\_Beldrulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ash_Beldrulf)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/majorana-missiles-drops/213508/1 "2020-01-24T20:07:14Z")
What do the Triglavian ships not drop ‘Majorana’ missiles when they are killed? Why are the Triglavian Abyssal sites not dropping ‘Majorana’ missile BPCs? Why do none of the Triglavian ships that players can fly have any missile hardpoints? Why are none of the Triglavian ships dropping any ammo or Triglavian modules when players kill them? ---
**Author:** ![Bernie\_Nator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bernie_nator/32/390552_2.png) [@Bernie\_Nator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bernie_Nator)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/majorana-missiles-drops/213508/2 "2020-01-24T20:09:54Z")
For the same reason that sleeper ships don’t. Because they don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_Beldrulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ash_beldrulf/32/473706_2.png) [@Ash\_Beldrulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ash_Beldrulf)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/majorana-missiles-drops/213508/3 "2020-01-24T21:28:51Z")
We can not fly Sleeper ships and we can fly Triglavian ship. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/majorana-missiles-drops/213508/4 "2020-01-24T22:03:59Z")
Why should they? It’s just flavor text. NPCs don’t follow the same rules as player ships do because they’re just NPCs. Sansha Nightmare NPCs will fire Cruise Missiles at you but the Nightmare doesn’t have Launcher hardpoints. ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_Beldrulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ash_beldrulf/32/473706_2.png) [@Ash\_Beldrulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ash_Beldrulf)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/majorana-missiles-drops/213508/5 "2020-01-24T22:06:41Z")
That would also be a problem that needs to be addressed then. Why does CCP think it is ok to fit NPC ships that we can fly with weapon hardpoints, that players can not have? ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/majorana-missiles-drops/213508/6 "2020-01-24T22:07:42Z")
> [@Ash\_Beldrulf](#): > > That would also be a problem that needs to be addressed then. Can you explain why it’s a problem in the first place? > [@Ash\_Beldrulf](#): > > Why does CCP think it is ok to fit NPC ships that we can fly with weapon hardpoints, that players can not have? Because they’re probably just lazy and that’s how they coded the NPCs. ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_Beldrulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ash_beldrulf/32/473706_2.png) [@Ash\_Beldrulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ash_Beldrulf)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/majorana-missiles-drops/213508/8 "2020-01-24T22:13:16Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Can you explain why it’s a problem in the first place? I am tired of the NPC/CCP playing by a different set of rules then. I have no issue with SPECIAL npcs have different stuff like the Sleepers. We can fly Sleeper stuff but for ships we can fly, those ships need to be the same for both side. The Triglavians have ‘Majorana’ missiles. Not one BPC or missile has been drops since this started or even one Triglavian ship we build from a Triglavian BPC has one missile hard point. ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_Beldrulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ash_beldrulf/32/473706_2.png) [@Ash\_Beldrulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ash_Beldrulf)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/majorana-missiles-drops/213508/9 "2020-01-24T22:15:45Z")
> [@Gowa\_Hyasyoda](#): > > Some things are just meant to be exclusive. I have no issue with the Special named rats have exclusive items/modules/skills. If any items are in common use against the players from a ship that players can build/fly, then they should be the same for fitting. ---
**Author:** ![Bernie\_Nator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bernie_nator/32/390552_2.png) [@Bernie\_Nator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bernie_Nator)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/majorana-missiles-drops/213508/11 "2020-01-24T22:28:42Z")
So you want trig diamond ships. ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_Beldrulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ash_beldrulf/32/473706_2.png) [@Ash\_Beldrulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ash_Beldrulf)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/majorana-missiles-drops/213508/12 "2020-01-24T22:30:45Z")
> [@Gowa\_Hyasyoda](#): > > In this case you want trig ships that can’t use these missiles have them removed and instead drop t1 form of trig modules for those specific ships. Yes I would be good with them removing the missile hard points from the Trig ships or giving the player’s Trig ships missile hard points. They don’t need to drop the modules but they could drop ammo/missiles or even BPCs to make the ammo/missiles. The Triglavians and Bloodraiders both have the diamond rat AI. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/majorana-missiles-drops/213508/14 "2020-01-24T23:01:29Z")
> [@Ash\_Beldrulf](#): > > The Triglavians have ‘Majorana’ missiles. Not one BPC or missile has been drops since this started or even one Triglavian ship we build from a Triglavian BPC has one missile hard point. Yeah, because again, they’re just NPCs. > [@Ash\_Beldrulf](#): > > I am tired of the NPC/CCP playing by a different set of rules then. What different rules? You mean you want to fly the same ships at NPCs do? You realize that NPCs cannot fit their ships or adjust their fittings. The stats and numbers are coded into the entities themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_Beldrulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ash_beldrulf/32/473706_2.png) [@Ash\_Beldrulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ash_Beldrulf)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/majorana-missiles-drops/213508/15 "2020-01-24T23:30:57Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > You mean you want to fly the same ships at NPCs do? You realize that NPCs cannot fit their ships or adjust their fittings. The stats and numbers are coded into the entities themselves. Yes CCP/NPCs can change the fits, skills and implants any time they want. They can also change the loot drops, bounties and AI coding any time too. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/majorana-missiles-drops/213508/16 "2020-01-24T23:39:31Z")
> [@Ash\_Beldrulf](#): > > Yes CCP/NPCs can change the fits, skills and implants any time they want. No, they can’t actually. There are no “fits” “skills” or “implants” for NPCs. CCP explained how the determine the stats of NPC ships in their 2017 Fanfest presentation. At the very least, please learn what you are talking about first. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/6/7/a6783fb96622770c9b1f2f05c0918a0faf522aff.jpeg "EVE Fanfest 2017 - Phenomenal PvE") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zho8nopiluc&t=110) ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_Beldrulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ash_beldrulf/32/473706_2.png) [@Ash\_Beldrulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ash_Beldrulf)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/majorana-missiles-drops/213508/17 "2020-01-25T00:21:37Z")
That is old information and things have changed. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/majorana-missiles-drops/213508/18 "2020-01-25T00:30:15Z")
> [@Ash\_Beldrulf](#): > > and things have changed. Do you have a source for this? A dev blog or a video, any kind of proof? ---
**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/majorana-missiles-drops/213508/19 "2020-01-25T00:31:41Z")
Ofc they don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/majorana-missiles-drops/213508/20 "2020-01-25T01:12:47Z")
It’s probably personal ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/majorana-missiles-drops/213508/21 "2020-01-25T05:51:10Z")
Is that medical Majorana, or the street stuff? ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/majorana-missiles-drops/213508/22 "2020-01-25T08:17:51Z")
Why are you an entitled crybaby? ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_Beldrulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ash_beldrulf/32/473706_2.png) [@Ash\_Beldrulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ash_Beldrulf)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/majorana-missiles-drops/213508/23 "2020-01-25T10:27:51Z")
Entitled? I am just pointing out a flaw that I see in the game. This is a discussion to understand why CCP/NPC’s ships that we can fly and build have different hardpoints then what we have. Yes I would like the ships that we can fly to have the same hardpoint layout as the NPC/CCP’s ships and yes I would like to see the ‘Majorana’ missiles drop or drop as BPCs. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/majorana-missiles-drops/213508.md?page=2)