# Make autopilot usable or remove it entirely **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 17, 2017, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/make-autopilot-usable-or-remove-it-entirely/40031 "2017-11-17T16:05:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/make-autopilot-usable-or-remove-it-entirely/40031/223 "2018-03-12T11:44:29Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > However out of spite you and a few others are so hellbent on finding malice where there isn’t any have ended up turning this into a forum flame war. Lol, funny how you try to turn this around. Actually it was you who started to cite people out of context and posting some unrelated stuff to score some cheap points in the hope no one would notice. And now as always you try to play the victim because everyone is so mean to you, pointing out your lies. Seriously grow up man! ---
**Author:** ![blake\_m\_miron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blake_m_miron/32/35181_2.png) [@blake\_m\_miron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/blake_m_miron)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/make-autopilot-usable-or-remove-it-entirely/40031/224 "2018-03-12T13:02:41Z")
Agreed!!! +1 to OP. It is about time, we have been waiting 15 years. People will scream that it causes more griefing and suicides and ganks… WE KNOW THIS. We accept all the risks when we undock / turn on autopilot / afk. Undocking is consent to PvP. Don’t fly what you can afford to lose. Autopilot right now is horrendous, if you are in a slow big ship / hauling indy ship / freighter / slow Exhumer, etc. BENEFITS to WARP TO 0 KM autopilot buff:::: Increased power to the economy of New Eden. You will increase the ease of flow of players and goods throughout Space. Think of a revitalization to the Trade & hauling economy of new Eden. Instead of making 20 jumps to a destination back and forth. Of each jump auto pilot is 10km out, and takes sooo long each jump in your 140 or less meters per second speed. You are now mega increasing autopilot travel by 2x / 3x / 4x+ faster than it is now. WARP TO 0KM AUTOPILOT BUFF, is the first step to to the positive changes for Eve Online in general, and step 1 for buffs to the hauling industry. Step 2 for the hauling industry later on will be QOL Quality of Life changes to the Contract / Hauling Contract system. ---
**Author:** ![Veine\_Miromme](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veine_miromme/32/269859_2.png) [@Veine\_Miromme](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veine_Miromme)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/make-autopilot-usable-or-remove-it-entirely/40031/225 "2018-03-12T13:48:33Z")
It’s good when you multibox and multiclient to work on a main account while making sure your pilot warping gates is faster than if forgetting him there. The 15km to the gate crawl sequence, not 10km by the way, is good to avoid abuse of multiboxer, and people getting paid over $60,000 a year to be running mainframes which is enough to put undue load on the servers, and not fair for people with slower system. If you want to warp to zero, you can’t do it by autopilot. Even if you land at 15km from the gate, away from Niarja and Uedama, you have a good chance to press F1, given you moved your prop mod to the weapon location there, and make it to the gate in time, if you have proper cap to run the prop mod. Prop mod = Propulsion module. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/make-autopilot-usable-or-remove-it-entirely/40031/226 "2018-03-12T14:44:54Z")
> [@blake\_m\_miron](#): > > Think of a revitalization to the Trade & hauling economy of new Eden. This will kill the trade and hauling economy because safe 0km ap would essentially eliminate all reasons for using freight services and anything else but Jita. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/make-autopilot-usable-or-remove-it-entirely/40031/227 "2018-03-12T19:11:29Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Despite the three stooges > [@Is there any plans to close the loop hole that is ganking?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/538): > > You, Major and Ima are the Three Gank Stooges. Oh how convenient that you two have the same petty nickname for people who disagree 😅😅😅 I think @Ima_Wreckyou was right on the _they’re the same dude_ part ---
**Author:** ![LouHodo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/louhodo/32/109593_2.png) [@LouHodo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LouHodo)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/make-autopilot-usable-or-remove-it-entirely/40031/228 "2018-03-12T20:15:51Z")
So this thread is still going. WOW… I still think if you are slow enough to use autopilot through dangerous systems you deserve the gank that is coming. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/make-autopilot-usable-or-remove-it-entirely/40031/229 "2018-03-12T21:06:35Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Oh how convenient that you two have the same petty nickname for people who disagree I stole it off DMC, cos it fits. Its not about disagreement, its about you three stooges making a show. Its getting tiresome. Seen the same act too many times. ---
**Author:** ![blake\_m\_miron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blake_m_miron/32/35181_2.png) [@blake\_m\_miron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/blake_m_miron)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/make-autopilot-usable-or-remove-it-entirely/40031/230 "2018-03-13T17:20:33Z")
Yep. No one is debating you on this. We already accept the fact that we consent to PvP when we undock or turn on autopilot. You are Preaching to the Choir. ---
**Author:** ![Major\_Errogance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/major_errogance/32/57325_2.png) [@Major\_Errogance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Major_Errogance)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/make-autopilot-usable-or-remove-it-entirely/40031/231 "2018-03-14T22:13:05Z")
> [@Alexey\_Rumyancev](#): > > remove the autopilot entirely, because as of now it’s utterly useless. No, thank you, I still use it. How about “@CCP remove @Alexey Rumyancev’s account as he’s useless to me…” ?! Autopilot is slower than manual, make a choice. I used to play when you couldn’t even warp in manually closer than 10km… ---
**Author:** ![Major\_Errogance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/major_errogance/32/57325_2.png) [@Major\_Errogance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Major_Errogance)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2018, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/make-autopilot-usable-or-remove-it-entirely/40031/232 "2018-03-14T22:17:56Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Its getting tiresome. That’s not what people think about your posts… Also, I think you are one of the best forum bots I ever encountered. But your AI needs significant improvement of understanding. Also a classic “repeat same nonsense/question that was already answered” programming issue still is over apparent! ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/make-autopilot-usable-or-remove-it-entirely/40031/233 "2018-03-15T06:33:14Z")
> [@Major\_Errogance](#): > > Also, I think you are one of the best forum bots I ever encountered. But your AI needs significant improvement of understanding. Also a classic “repeat same nonsense/question that was already answered” programming issue still is over apparent! I have heuristic systems that allow me to learn and adapt. But I cant force people to understand, and my output is restricted by the input this environment provides. I cant raise a thread to 5star rating, alone, when the rest of it is 0stars. I also cant help people that dont understand how to answer a question with the syntax appropriate to the query. That’s a flaw in their logic/databanks, not mine, On your part, Id recommend you turn down your meme/troll sub-routines. Just makes you seem like you got here lost from reddit. ---
**Author:** ![Apolline\_Mireille\_Dufour-Roux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/apolline_mireille_dufour-roux/32/286578_2.png) [@Apolline\_Mireille\_Dufour-Roux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Apolline_Mireille_Dufour-Roux)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/make-autopilot-usable-or-remove-it-entirely/40031/234 "2018-03-15T09:30:30Z")
Autopilot is fine as it is. If you want to move from A to B fast or you’re transporting anything of any value then you do it manually. If you’re just moving a worthless ship or empty pod from A to B then you can use the autopilot and go fap/sleep/eat/bio-break/smoke/whatever while it moves itself. Don’t fix things that are not broken. ---
**Author:** ![Major\_Errogance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/major_errogance/32/57325_2.png) [@Major\_Errogance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Major_Errogance)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/make-autopilot-usable-or-remove-it-entirely/40031/235 "2018-03-15T14:10:43Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > On your part, Id recommend you turn down your meme/troll sub-routines. Ok, I understand… ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/5/f562d813a9b86da67a4a9e6d5526c3d75054da94.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/make-autopilot-usable-or-remove-it-entirely/40031/236 "2018-03-15T18:41:50Z")
Goddamit, man. What did I just say about your meme sub-routines… ---
**Author:** ![Major\_Errogance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/major_errogance/32/57325_2.png) [@Major\_Errogance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Major_Errogance)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/make-autopilot-usable-or-remove-it-entirely/40031/237 "2018-03-15T18:42:40Z")
I didn’t understand what you posted… that makes us postbro’s ! =D ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/make-autopilot-usable-or-remove-it-entirely/40031/238 "2018-06-13T18:42:43Z")
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