# Make security status proportional to Concord reaction time

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**Created:** [June 8, 2021, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/make-security-status-proportional-to-concord-reaction-time/315432 "2021-06-08T20:34:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/make-security-status-proportional-to-concord-reaction-time/315432/48 "2021-06-09T23:19:53Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> That presentation by Hilmar in 2019 was centered on over 25,000 new players for a 7 week period. About half of those new players didn’t even log in after registering to play the game. Obviously there’s a big problem with that which Hilmar said was on CCP.
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> Out of the other half, over 90% of those new players quit within the first 7 days of playing due to suffering a devastating ship loss which he called the ‘Magic Moment’, that’s when the new player decides to stay or quit the game.
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> He then said those new players would be more inclined to stay playing the game if they had a social / support group to help them understand what happened, help them quickly recover from the loss and help them get revenge.
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> So New Player in game for 7 days is pretty much in High Sec space, probably doing the Career Agent missions, SoE level 1 Epic Arc, running Hacking sites or mining Ore to buy skills and equipment.
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> New player suffers devastating ship loss. Doesn’t understand why it happened, can’t quickly recover the loss and can’t get revenge. Sure sounds like he’s talking about High Sec ganking to me.

I think, concluding that Hilmar was hinting the 90% loss is due to suicide ganking is a bit of a stretch.

[Here](https://youtu.be/Vw67gb6eoYk) is the talk in question. The referenced bit in the timeframe 38:21 - 43:35.

> So we have all these people. Everyday, 25,000 people trying to be a part of the friendship machine. And just epically failing at it, because we are epically failing at it. I think us CCP, we have the role for the first 7 days, then you guys can help a lot in the what’s to follow. A lot of the new player organizations, like Brave, are doing a phenomenal job in helping people after 7 days, but we CCP need to do a lot better on this.

He explicitly states, that the 7 day period is an issue CCP themselves need to fix. After that period is when he calls for players to welcome and embrace new players. There are no hints, he sees suicide ganking as an issue within this period.

  
  

**TLDR - Join a corp.**

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