# Manual piloting - myth or the real thing

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/manual-piloting-myth-or-the-real-thing/173562>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [July 9, 2019, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/manual-piloting-myth-or-the-real-thing/173562 "2019-07-09T11:58:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ghost\_O\_Mo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ghost_o_mo/32/376789_2.png) [@Ghost\_O\_Mo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ghost_O_Mo)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/manual-piloting-myth-or-the-real-thing/173562/1 "2019-07-09T11:58:06Z")

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This discussion happened on another thread:

> [@Ship Agility and Manual Piloting](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ship-agility-and-manual-piloting/169208/13):
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> In pvp it is not. There are a few situations where manual piloting is pretty much mandatory, such as when you’re spiralling in to get under someone’s guns, or slingshotting to pull range on someone. This is effectively what manual piloting is.

So I figured we should have the discussion with the communications center crowd… manual piloting, real or no?

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/manual-piloting-myth-or-the-real-thing/173562/2 "2019-07-09T12:01:43Z")

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Do you mean double clicking around or using 1st person mode and direction keys?

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**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/manual-piloting-myth-or-the-real-thing/173562/3 "2019-07-09T12:47:05Z")

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> [@Ghost\_O\_Mo](#):
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> So I figured we should have the discussion with the communications center crowd… manual piloting, real or no?

it is real in both PvE and PvP - if you want to avoid getting blapped you have to approach/disengage target using spiral trajectory so that you always have decent angular speed relative to them.

> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> using 1st person mode and direction keys

i doubt anyone uses FPP for flying spaceships.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/manual-piloting-myth-or-the-real-thing/173562/4 "2019-07-09T12:49:53Z")

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Then whats the question?

People still actually set to orbit?

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**Author:** ![Trevor\_Dalech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trevor_dalech/32/410287_2.png) [@Trevor\_Dalech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trevor_Dalech)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/manual-piloting-myth-or-the-real-thing/173562/5 "2019-07-09T15:41:45Z")

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> [@Ghost\_O\_Mo](#):
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> This discussion happened on another thread:
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> [Ship Agility and Manual Piloting](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ship-agility-and-manual-piloting/169208/13) [Warfare & Tactics](https://forums.eveonline.com/c/pvp-gameplay-center/warfare-tactics)
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> > In pvp it is not.
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> So I figured we should have the discussion with the communications center crowd… manual piloting, real or no?

Just to clarify - You’re quoting me without quoting the question I am answering. The way you have currently framed it, it may be construed as if I’m saying manual piloting is not a real thing, while I’m actually saying the opposite: it’s not a myth.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/manual-piloting-myth-or-the-real-thing/173562/6 "2019-10-07T15:48:58Z")

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