# Marauder ganked by 9 players---- no need 100% EHP? **URL:** \ **Category:** Warfare & Tactics\ **Created:** [July 30, 2026, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/marauder-ganked-by-9-players-no-need-100-ehp/515554 "2026-07-30T11:13:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2026, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/marauder-ganked-by-9-players-no-need-100-ehp/515554/1 "2026-07-30T11:13:16Z")
![Screenshot 2026-07-30 at 13.00.09](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/c/9/dc92f796fe62274a0f29996a09e12826e372b90d.jpeg) There were only nine suspect in the whole system. I had 1000HP/S rep and 150K EHP Guess what? I lost a 1.5B Marauder to 9 T2 Bombers. I OH Everything. I started shooting at them It was over in less then 15seconds. Now please, explain me how Marauder do not deserve the 100% Bonus plate. I Survived ganks 0f 20 Dragoons with T2 Torps. THis time it was a piece of cake. And I had a Crytasl set, so double the active recharge. I’m pissed. Don’t blame on me the mechanics this or that, CCCP Nerfed the Marauder back to stone Age and these are the consequences. Only the CN Bastion was worth 1.1B THen Double CN computer 500mil Hull 1Bil Pith-X Repper CN Navy Ballistics I will throw the fit once the timer finishes. THis is your fault CCP, Fenrir. It’s also your fault of all others thinking it’s OK to be bullied like this. Marauders, Black Ops, Are we suppose to play with just T1 ships?? Thank you Fenrir I was mid cycle and had no chance of warping out. You need to fix this. And reimburse this “experiments” on our wallets. THis is unacceptable. End of story. I don’t want to hear excuses. A 400k EHP Marauder would have survived that mess. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2026, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/marauder-ganked-by-9-players-no-need-100-ehp/515554/2 "2026-07-30T11:14:28Z")
Here we go again… I posted this in another thread, but I’ll recap here… You need: • 0.9-0.8 systems … 200k EHP minimum • Add 75-100k EHP for each security level below 0.8 • Avoid 0.5 systems So in a 0.6 system you need a minimum of 350-400k EHP. When I say EHP, I mean against Void, Conflag or your single weakest resist. I can’t see what you have for rigs, but I’m guessing T2 hydraulics since you’re using torpedoes. I’m also assuming implants weren’t Nirvanas. It looks like you had a sizeable EM hole - which is what stealth bombers usually target (this or explosive). Also, if you get ganked - always always overheat everything and Bastion immediately. Not sure if you realize this, but the Caldari Navy Bastion module drops your resistances by 10% (30% » 20%). The Republic Fleet Bastion module (while offering no missile benefits) increases your resistances from 30% » 40%. ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2026, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/marauder-ganked-by-9-players-no-need-100-ehp/515554/3 "2026-07-30T11:34:44Z")
We need Marauders Plate Bonus back, as with Black Ops. This is all CCP Fault, playing with balancing, and leaving us no choice but play with faction BS, and leave Marauders docked. Why should I spend Plexes to get more time to a game that has only broken every little fix we came up with feedback in the years? These last 4 years have been the worst. They rolled back everything that could help Solo players survive bloody gankers with multibox accounts 0f 10-15 ships… And we can not even put up a fight!!! You Can’t put up 400k EHP in a Marauder and keep 1000Hp/s anymore!!! Those days are gone!!! I had 160K EHP, I could have got even 200k EHP. IT’s too low!!! And the Faction Bastion? At least they could have made them cycle of 5 seconds… So Marauders could get a chance to read the scan and dock before it’s too late… These are not coincidences. Someone that has never played the game one day looked at some stats and decided what was best to get the most money out. Why should we keep Plexing our accounts? They Hate us. Black Ops Marauders. The pattern is clear. PS: No EM Hole. 1000HP/s rep, two OK T2 Multi. I could not even target one of them. Bc I would have one shot them. I tried to target all of them. Whilst rep running. I was already in structure. That is bc I had Crystals, otherwise it would have been 500Hp/s I had two large plates, I used to fly in 0.5 (inaya) with 6 plates and over 500k EHP. Make no mistake. They don’t care any more. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2026, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/marauder-ganked-by-9-players-no-need-100-ehp/515554/4 "2026-07-30T11:37:37Z")
I’ve b\*tched about the loss of the plate/extender bonus on Marauders to no end. Because it was exploited by null-sec (Pochven, etc.), it’s extremely unlikely to return. If you have 400k EHP - you don’t need a massive active shield tank. On my Golem I run a Gistum A-Type medium shield booster - and that’s plenty. You can run a Marauder just fine (even a semi-blingy Marauder). On a shield tank, always go with a Faction damage control. It’s worth every penny as it boosts your shields more than the T2 variant. Always run Nirvana implants in a Golem (this gets you most of your extender bonus back). It’s worth getting less ISK/hour for choosing safer corporations to mission for, ie: ones that operate out of 0.9 systems. SoE is the worst - because you’re frequently in 0.5 systems (just begging to be ganked). ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2026, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/marauder-ganked-by-9-players-no-need-100-ehp/515554/5 "2026-07-30T11:44:40Z")
Go on, defend this choice… I Lost countless Marauders in near Osmon, and the only thing that worked was the plate bonus. I don’t care about Pochven. You are siding with Fenrir.CCP on this? NO. I was the one that gave feedback for years about how little buffer Marauders had. And it was fixed. It created other problems? Well the solution was not to roll back the only thing that kept Maruders alive in HS. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2026, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/marauder-ganked-by-9-players-no-need-100-ehp/515554/6 "2026-07-30T11:45:18Z")
> [@Queotzcatl](#): > > You are siding with Fenrir.CCP on this? Nope - I’m just telling you why the bonus was removed (various large groups were exploiting the heck out of it). Do a search for my “Marauder” or “Marauder nerf” - you’ll see my name all over the place. ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2026, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/marauder-ganked-by-9-players-no-need-100-ehp/515554/7 "2026-07-30T11:46:51Z")
Than it’s CCP-Fenrir poor job at keeping them at check, and failing miserably to listening to feedback from players, that felt “oppressed” by the now “mighty Marauders”… You are starting a Hate speech against me ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2026, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/marauder-ganked-by-9-players-no-need-100-ehp/515554/8 "2026-07-30T11:47:51Z")
If you active fit in high-sec - you’re dead. It’s as simple (and brutal) as that. Not really sure why you’re picking a fight with me on this - I’ve been advocating for the return of the plate/extender/hull bonus for years… 3/4 of the new Faction bastion modules will give you less EHP while painting a larger bullseye on your ship. ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2026, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/marauder-ganked-by-9-players-no-need-100-ehp/515554/9 "2026-07-30T11:52:16Z")
Oh, guess what, It’s what CCP-Fenrir and the feedback against the Plate Bonus went into… They stated that their policy is to change Marauder to be active tanking only… So there is no way to get back what was lost… And you were an active partecipant in destroying the Marauders buffer tank with your feedbacks, that obviously had the priority over my feedback that went on and on for years to obtain a minimum of protection against gankers that was not just some paper tank, and some active tank that could be nulled by a cap-bomb in one.shot.. You are part of the problem ---
**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2026, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/marauder-ganked-by-9-players-no-need-100-ehp/515554/10 "2026-07-30T11:54:27Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > Here we go again You can only lead the horse to the water… ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2026, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/marauder-ganked-by-9-players-no-need-100-ehp/515554/11 "2026-07-30T11:55:10Z")
> [@Queotzcatl](#): > > And you were an active partecipant in destroying the Marauders buffer tank with your feedbacks Ask anyone: @Syzygium @Gerard_Amatin @Gloria_Exercitus @MB_ThePhotographer @Christine_Creed - even @Aiko_Danuja and @James_Fuchs. They’ll all tell you I’m a huge “carebear” and that I’ve been moaning and whining (hey, being honest here!) against the exact opposite of what you’re claiming… ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2026, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/marauder-ganked-by-9-players-no-need-100-ehp/515554/12 "2026-07-30T12:03:00Z")
Sorry, it seems that you’ve been contradicting yourself with the Pochven statement. If that is so. You should blame CCP-Fenrir and not anyway trying to teach me how should I not fit an active tank Marauder… it’s the only way possible!!! I would use a T1 Raven if I wanted to “buffer tank”, not certainly a Marauder… so why should we plex our account given the circumstances??? The Faction Bastion are broken, they should at least be 5s cycle for the price, then I can get the higher active tank (a joke) but it had longer missile reach also. They all should be changed to 5s cycle, baceuse active tanking, with 1000HP/S is not enough. maybe 5K Hp/s could work. then change active tanking with a 1000% Boost. But also give bastion EWAR resistance of 90% against NOS, NEUT, and CAP.BOMBS… otherwise it’s useless. Active tanking is a complete failure vs Plate Bonus Buffer tank. We need to pursue this battle, no water for anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2026, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/marauder-ganked-by-9-players-no-need-100-ehp/515554/13 "2026-07-30T12:03:02Z")
> [@Christine\_Creed](#): > > You can only lead the horse to the water… ![1534957079326](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/d/2/4d2902d1eb7e355007484e8c4393271e24bdb7fb.gif) ---
**Author:** ![TR09N](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tr09n/32/479710_2.png) [@TR09N](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TR09N)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2026, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/marauder-ganked-by-9-players-no-need-100-ehp/515554/14 "2026-07-30T12:08:02Z")
Too bad he didnt smartbombed your escape venture, would’ve been great opportiny for you to give feedback about smartbombs being overpowered in Highsec. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2026, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/marauder-ganked-by-9-players-no-need-100-ehp/515554/15 "2026-07-30T12:10:07Z")
Fit your Marauder how you want. If you don’t understand how you can’t survive a gank in an active tank fit, I can’t help you… • FC isn’t going to un-nerf/buff the Marauders for… reasons (I could list them again, but what would be the point). • The Faction bastion modules are just fine - you just don’t realize what the trade-offs are or how to utilize them properly (or both). • I’ve given you some “survival” tips (in broad terms), but you don’t seem amenable to them. I could even list a survivable fit, but it probably wouldn’t involve torpedoes (and I’m not really sure you’re interested in any event). You don’t seem to want to take any constructive criticism, so other than popping online to vent here - I’m honestly not sure what you expect to accomplish? This has been fun! 🤣 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2026, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/marauder-ganked-by-9-players-no-need-100-ehp/515554/16 "2026-07-30T12:19:21Z")
Between Queotzcatl’s and Uta’s posts…this forum has become quite the entertaining place as of late. ---
**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2026, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/marauder-ganked-by-9-players-no-need-100-ehp/515554/17 "2026-07-30T12:21:13Z")
These folks will have a field day with this one. 🙂 🌹 ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2026, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/marauder-ganked-by-9-players-no-need-100-ehp/515554/18 "2026-07-30T12:27:43Z")
There you have it, 5B Marauder, taken down by 10ppl Multiboxing. Are you happy??? This isn’t Gankster Paradise for Gott’s sake!!! We rolled back to when T1 BS had MORE tank than Marauders. Stop attacking me, I’m providing real feedback, and I need no TROLLS. This is serious business. CCP, Fenrir, Stop listening to US 4-5 years ago, when everyone was in panic and they needed to extract more money… from the Veterans base, that used to PAY for their time. But We’ll NEVER BUY PLEXES, THIS IS A DREAM. Those who can, are ruining the game balance, and it’s become pay-to-win. EVE has been destroyed bit by bit and we have had it enough!! ![Screenshot 2026-07-30 at 14.11.43](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/2/2/7222f70b5aa74b0573de859b76ebae04fcb0820c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2026, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/marauder-ganked-by-9-players-no-need-100-ehp/515554/19 "2026-07-30T12:32:35Z")
Bombard CCP Fenrir of requests of getting back the plate BONUSES!!! And fix the Bastion Cycles and defence bonuses!!! As their “Active tanking policy” It’s not working! This what I expect!!! Not averaging your writing skills to that of an LLM.|| ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2026, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/marauder-ganked-by-9-players-no-need-100-ehp/515554/20 "2026-07-30T12:36:55Z")
How you know it??? You were part of the gank??? You miserable piece of troll. Take advantage of your Multiboxing capabilities and exploit CCP - Fenrir decision of making Marauders Paper Toys. GO back to the sewers where you belong I was trying to make back some of the money lost with the Legion… 3B iskies… now 5B iskies… In three days I made maybe 300Mil… Ganking has no risks involved… It just ruin people’s life.. I prefer to live as birdfeed inside a worm than being a ganker like you. We used to pay SECURITY and SAFE to not GANK us, whilst going around in Osmon and neighbouring systems, a fee. I used to give for free all pinpoints to my wrecks in exchange for not being ganked. There used to be rules in Osmon and Inaya. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/marauder-ganked-by-9-players-no-need-100-ehp/515554.md?page=2)