# \[March\] The Monitor Flag Cruiser **URL:** \ **Category:** Upcoming Features & Changes\ **Tags:** ships\ **Created:** [February 19, 2018, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207 "2018-02-19T14:17:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 37
**Author:** ![Zastro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zastro/32/62478_2.png) [@Zastro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zastro)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/730 "2018-03-26T16:47:16Z")
Not sure if this has been covered, but I have a question… Why an emphasis on armor/HP/EHP for a craft that is not supposed to be engaged in combat in the first place?!? I would think the emphasis would be on anything to keep from being target-locked or successfully hit, as in electronic warfare modules… If you (hypothetically) cannot be target locked or hit, armor is no longer that important I would think. I know they must have been thinking something like this when they gave it the signature radius of a frigate, but why not just go in that direction as a focus and allow self-defense EW modules??? ---
**Author:** ![Zastro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zastro/32/62478_2.png) [@Zastro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zastro)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/731 "2018-03-26T17:20:01Z")
A whore module?!? - Are you referring to that erect appendage hanging below the ship? Lol… ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/732 "2018-03-26T17:39:19Z")
> [@Zastro](#): > > Test failed, lol… Why?. ---
**Author:** ![Huttan\_Funaila](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/huttan_funaila/32/138268_2.png) [@Huttan\_Funaila](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Huttan_Funaila)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/733 "2018-03-26T19:23:13Z")
> [@Zastro](#): > > If you (hypothetically) cannot be target locked or hit, armor is no longer that important I would think. > > I know they must have been thinking something like this when they gave it the signature radius of a frigate Bombs do damage based on the signature size of the target, and armor would help survival from that aspect. ---
**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/734 "2018-03-26T21:34:03Z")
He has it exactly right. This thing CAN get on killmails by using a target painter that has zero attributes (does not help the fleet kill the target at all) other than extended range. Basically the FC target paints a target (with a useless whore module) and gets on killmails. He or she is getting cake and able to eat it too. * * * Eve is not like real life or anything resembling it when it comes to large fleet fights. The FC doesn’t sit up on a perch somewhere and watch what is going on, that would render him/her completely useless. * * * No offence intended. Having read all your last comments, I’d suggest you spend an hour or 2 watching some eve vids on youtube. Then spend a little more time talking to some more experienced players, you’d be surprised how many fights are fought out. Skirmish fleets, never sit still. Kite fleets, rarely stay in one place for long. Sniping fleets, need to reposition once the enemy has a warpin for them. Even the biggest ships in Eve (capitals) need to reposition on the battlefield to get better access to targets or avoid becoming lossmails. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Zimmer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_zimmer/32/475633_2.png) [@James\_Zimmer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Zimmer)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/735 "2018-04-20T16:55:28Z")
No thank you. Not a fan of guaranteed survival of your FC. If you have a decent FC team, your main FC shouldn’t be obvious (they should assign another person as anchor) nor should their loss be that big of a deal (they should have a competent secondary FC. That being said, I don’t know if this will really upset the balance of anything. I wouldn’t be cause dead in one of these, and I’m sure lots of FCs, especially in smaller alliances, feel the same. ---
**Author:** ![Kevrev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kevrev/32/192370_2.png) [@Kevrev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kevrev)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/736 "2018-04-20T23:26:15Z")
Don’t know if this has been suggested yet but instead of a ship that makes it obvious who’s probably FCing how about… …Give whoever is in Fleet/Wing command positions a hitpoint bonus. Not sure if it’s even possible but it would preserve the stealth of who’s the FC while giving added survival. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/737 "2018-04-20T23:31:46Z")
> [@Kevrev](#): > > …Give whoever is in Fleet/Wing command positions a hitpoint bonus. > > Not sure if it’s even possible but it would preserve the stealth of who’s the FC while giving added survival. I don’t particularly like the Monitor, but I really dislike this idea. If the fleet can’t keep the FC alive, then bad luck. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/738 "2018-04-20T23:32:00Z")
No, because everyone would exploit it. Create a fleet containing only yourself or alts and use it to gain extra EHP for any number of activities… ---
**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 2:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/739 "2018-04-28T02:25:38Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > No, because everyone would exploit it. Create a fleet containing only yourself or alts and use it to gain extra EHP for any number of activities… I thought boosts were exactly made for that purpose… ---
**Author:** ![zandayus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zandayus/32/69731_2.png) [@zandayus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zandayus)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/740 "2018-04-28T21:55:23Z")
have never understood that design.am using it as my personal ship for traveling around eve.would like to have it in a 3 blue shade camo skin. ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/741 "2018-04-29T16:50:47Z")
> [@Octoven](#): > > Honestly as an FC in essentially a spectator ship, they shouldn’t be allowed to be on kill mails period. Either you fly a combat ship and FC while doing damage, support, or logi OR you fly an observation ship with no offense and stay off kill mails, i mean because its not like commanding the fleet plays any real part in the kill am i right? ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Fozzie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_fozzie/32/476703_2.png) [@CCP\_Fozzie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Fozzie)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/742 "2018-07-28T16:50:55Z")
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