# \[March\] The Monitor Flag Cruiser **URL:** \ **Category:** Upcoming Features & Changes\ **Tags:** ships\ **Created:** [February 19, 2018, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207 "2018-02-19T14:17:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Sentenced\_1989](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sentenced_1989/32/380733_2.png) [@Sentenced\_1989](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sentenced_1989)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/102 "2018-02-19T16:00:55Z")
Needs an aggressive module to whore kill mails and/or direct drones. Also, would be cool if it started with 80-85% resistances and then grew by 0.5 - 1% with every fleeted ship on grid (so in smaller fights you would get less resistances, but in big fights where you have 20+ fleets members it would grow so you can stay for longer, maybe even cap it then at 95% resistances with 20-50 people in fleet on grid). ---
**Author:** ![Rivr\_Luzade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rivr_luzade/32/311061_2.png) [@Rivr\_Luzade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rivr_Luzade)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/103 "2018-02-19T16:01:36Z")
> Please let us know what you think of these changes in the comments thread for this blog and tell us what ships and modules you would like to receive balance passes in the future. @CCP_Fozzie How about you finish the Tiericide that you started and left unfinished for nearly a year now? šŸ¤” Do we really need to play memo postits for you now? ---
**Author:** ![Makalu\_Zarya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makalu_zarya/32/154380_2.png) [@Makalu\_Zarya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makalu_Zarya)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/104 "2018-02-19T16:02:02Z")
While itā€™s a nice idea itā€™s rather impractical. FCs are people too and they like to get on killmails, thus quite a few myself included will never fly a ship like this. FCs quite often fit links, yet again something this will not allow. Armor damnation can be tanked to survive just about anything especially if itā€™s pre-locked by logi so frankly I fail to see the point of this thing. ---
**Author:** ![Q\_Sertorius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/q_sertorius/32/156530_2.png) [@Q\_Sertorius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Q_Sertorius)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/105 "2018-02-19T16:02:14Z")
Itā€™s just for people who donā€™t want to ever die (or die after all their friends). Those people have no place in Eve. Eve is a game about blowing up spaceships. ---
**Author:** ![Testikulos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/testikulos/32/55383_2.png) [@Testikulos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Testikulos)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/106 "2018-02-19T16:03:52Z")
How do you wanna counter a capital without guns or other agressiv modules to command drones? ---
**Author:** ![C-137](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/c-137/32/146166_2.png) [@C-137](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/C-137)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/107 "2018-02-19T16:04:26Z")
You mass bump them into the sun ofc. ---
**Author:** ![Testikulos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/testikulos/32/55383_2.png) [@Testikulos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Testikulos)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/108 "2018-02-19T16:05:31Z")
Lol yeah looking forward to highsec bumbping^^ ---
**Author:** ![Agfro\_Er](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agfro_er/32/196685_2.png) [@Agfro\_Er](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agfro_Er)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/109 "2018-02-19T16:07:19Z")
I really wish that the FC head-shot issue was addressed with a clever use of how our clone minds work. Somehow sustaining an FCā€™s mind while on the same grid perhaps. But the ship seems neat. First impression is it could use a bit more spice. Either a single high slot, or a utility mid slot. Kind of want to see specialized rigs for this ship. One rig might add the high, another reduces probe cost, one for warp disruptors, cloak?, ect. What is the expected cost for the ship? Current specs probably wont support a very expensive ship imo. ---
**Author:** ![Soldarius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/soldarius/32/313493_2.png) [@Soldarius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Soldarius)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/110 "2018-02-19T16:07:19Z")
You might want to actually read the description. Also, there are a few HAC changes for March. ---
**Author:** ![Chance\_Ravinne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chance_ravinne/32/423798_2.png) [@Chance\_Ravinne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chance_Ravinne)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/111 "2018-02-19T16:08:29Z")
Cool to see this finally coming to fruition after so long! My main question is what the purpose of ā€œFlag Cruisersā€ outside of this ship will be? ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Rahvin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_rahvin/32/272419_2.png) [@Lord\_Rahvin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Rahvin)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/112 "2018-02-19T16:11:38Z")
O COME ON CCP. Give it a pre-installed. Non-removable long range weapon that does 1 damage per shot. FCā€™s already get screwed on killmails because they are too busy being jammed or broadcasting the next target to even bother with their own weapons. ---
**Author:** ![Void\_Weaver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/void_weaver/32/18538_2.png) [@Void\_Weaver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Void_Weaver)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/113 "2018-02-19T16:16:11Z")
I feel a bit mixed on thisā€¦on one hand I like the idea of a flagship leading a fleet but this seems a gimmick to solve a problem that is too specificā€¦would prefer a more general change: Possibly a new line of protection based ships that can provide temporary boosted resists to target ships? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/114 "2018-02-19T16:16:37Z")
Eh, this is a discussion I mostly stayed out of when it happened. Just watched it. ---
**Author:** ![Marcus\_Gideon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marcus_gideon/32/141713_2.png) [@Marcus\_Gideon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marcus_Gideon)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/115 "2018-02-19T16:27:02Z")
All the tears about whoring onto killmails. How many Noctis pilots whine like this? Noctis is a ship with a singular purpose, and so is this. Itā€™s modeled after a Concord ship, you know, like the folks who just sit back and watch the battle. This is your FC seat so you can call the shots without worrying so much about dying. You arenā€™t on the team, youā€™re the coach. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Baylin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_baylin/32/255706_2.png) [@John\_Baylin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Baylin)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/116 "2018-02-19T16:32:05Z")
Okay so after talks Iā€™m convinced on the EHP/Sig bonuses and the price looks reasonable from what Iā€™ve been told. However it still lacks probes, any way to repair heat, no room for boosters and no way to whore on a KM. For those who say FC job is not to whore on kill mails I think itā€™s kind of down to the FC and the situation. In bigger fleet fights sure, focus on the task at hand but when dropping on something or in a smaller fleet with a smaller objective that you want to be on the KM for then I think something else would be a better choice. Edit: Plus hitting F1 repeatedly really isnā€™t that hard to keep a whore gun firing. ---
**Author:** ![Airi\_Cho](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/airi_cho/32/23427_2.png) [@Airi\_Cho](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Airi_Cho)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/117 "2018-02-19T16:32:45Z")
but you also cant recall your probes šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![John\_Baylin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_baylin/32/255706_2.png) [@John\_Baylin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Baylin)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/118 "2018-02-19T16:33:08Z")
hahaha this is true. give it an ammo/drug bay. ---
**Author:** ![Ncc\_1709](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ncc_1709/32/393392_2.png) [@Ncc\_1709](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ncc_1709)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/119 "2018-02-19T16:34:06Z")
your forgetting implants, fleet bonuses, slave set. with slave set and all fleet bonuses applied, you get 336,449 armor ehp 281,000 shield ehp plus the hull ehp. you have 617k ehp there ---
**Author:** ![Airi\_Cho](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/airi_cho/32/23427_2.png) [@Airi\_Cho](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Airi_Cho)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/120 "2018-02-19T16:34:18Z")
TBH ā€¦ fleet commander is also about delegation ā€¦ having other people probe for you ā€¦ is not that uncommon no? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Baylin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_baylin/32/255706_2.png) [@John\_Baylin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Baylin)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207/121 "2018-02-19T16:35:12Z")
It isnā€™t that uncommon but again depends on the skill of your other FCā€™s, the amount of them left alive and the size of your fleet to lose a potential DPS/Logi/Command Ship for the sake of fitting probes to their ship. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/march-the-monitor-flag-cruiser/58207.md?page=7)