# Market tips, info, and discussion! And how to manage 15k orders! ...or less lol \[graphs updated **URL:** \ **Category:** Market Discussions\ **Created:** [June 8, 2021, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-tips-info-and-discussion-and-how-to-manage-15k-orders-or-less-lol-graphs-updated/315260 "2021-06-08T06:36:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Eden\_Trade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eden_trade/32/380486_2.png) [@Eden\_Trade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eden_Trade)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-tips-info-and-discussion-and-how-to-manage-15k-orders-or-less-lol-graphs-updated/315260/1 "2021-06-08T06:36:04Z")
Hi everyone! Starting a new thread here to update everyone on my market business. I will keep this updated on market trends, new video releases, and just a way for players that come to the tread to easily find out about my market activates to help them out either through asking me questions here or on my discord. First about me. I have 15,000ish market orders. 400 billion revenue per month and about 100bil profit per month. 17 trade hubs with 915 to 1000 items in each trade hub. So i have access to lots of data on what items are selling and what doesn’t and how the market is doing overall. I will be posting more videos and data graphs on different market items and regions to help out everyone in there trading so look for updates soon! **Updates: 8-18** **Graphs below this post updated with some info and ship sales on profits** **New Videos:** January through June market wrap up [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/c/b/dcb2854af87826f6c6ea39d0fc1999d5b9723140.jpeg "January through June Wrap up") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj7qCa4oSjI) My Spreadsheet setup update (7/20) [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/9/4/294617cb2c4cc95c486c852f27b24284365e0790.jpeg "Update to my spreadsheet system (EVE Online)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvJzA8n8UmE) **My youtube channel where you can find all my videos** > **[Eden Trade](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPoRwth69mIL64L-DINF_nw)** > > Eden Trade is the CEO of New Eden Trade and Market the largest single man corporation in EVE Online. With over 1.3 Trillion ISK in open market orders and 15,000 items up for sale in 17 regional trade hubs. > > Discord: https://discord.gg/MJGSudP **Discord** > **[Join the New Eden Trade and Market Discord Server!](https://discord.com/invite/MJGSudP)** > > Check out the New Eden Trade and Market community on Discord - hang out with 461 other members and enjoy free voice and text chat. Feel free to ask me questions here or on discord for market stuff or spreadsheet stuff! ---
**Author:** ![Eden\_Trade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eden_trade/32/380486_2.png) [@Eden\_Trade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eden_Trade)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-tips-info-and-discussion-and-how-to-manage-15k-orders-or-less-lol-graphs-updated/315260/2 "2021-06-08T06:39:04Z")
New Graphs (8-18): **(right click open image in new tab to see bigger version)** T3 Sales all year and profit ![Picture2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/2/c/f2caeaa57fc21a243158332aac58ba6628b87219.jpeg) ![Profit Per Trade Hub](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/a/e/1aee23f7f54b8e0bd6cc007d6963da96e0cd7363.jpeg) Can see an uptick in trasactions end of them month so thats a good sign! ![Transactiosn Per Day](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/c/1/fc1a413abcbad60fb06c70e2eaf815cd9327fc0c.jpeg) n ![Total Transactions Per Month Bar](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/0/9/4099f0bbce5573ea994e8237192bbb62de626d25.jpeg) ![Revenue Per Month](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/a/3/aa37e12ba3a98f8051575bc2be84b595cd0d57dd.jpeg) ![Profit Per Month](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/d/9/5d9c10ea2e7691844f593a03ff110d6a04e818db.jpeg) Ship profits (top) all year ![unknown](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/c/d/4cd193acf0a185a70220f80956cc1ba531c085ee.png) ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-tips-info-and-discussion-and-how-to-manage-15k-orders-or-less-lol-graphs-updated/315260/3 "2021-06-08T09:44:22Z")
Just curious, how are your standings at each trade hub? ---
**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-tips-info-and-discussion-and-how-to-manage-15k-orders-or-less-lol-graphs-updated/315260/4 "2021-06-08T09:46:02Z")
Thank you for keeping Stacmon stocked up. \o/ ---
**Author:** ![Eden\_Trade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eden_trade/32/380486_2.png) [@Eden\_Trade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eden_Trade)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-tips-info-and-discussion-and-how-to-manage-15k-orders-or-less-lol-graphs-updated/315260/5 "2021-06-08T10:46:49Z")
I use citadels so no standings needed or just the tax skills. The 3 npc stations i do i have no faction standingsm. But when its 50% or more markup for prices a few % tax does not hurt too bad. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-tips-info-and-discussion-and-how-to-manage-15k-orders-or-less-lol-graphs-updated/315260/6 "2021-06-08T10:48:45Z")
I was gonna say, at the NPC stations, we can help raise your corp AND faction standings ---
**Author:** ![Eden\_Trade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eden_trade/32/380486_2.png) [@Eden\_Trade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eden_Trade)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-tips-info-and-discussion-and-how-to-manage-15k-orders-or-less-lol-graphs-updated/315260/7 "2021-06-08T13:16:48Z")
Yeah i saw the service for that. But i will eventually move those 3 market hubs into a citadel towards the end of the year. ---
**Author:** ![Eden\_Trade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eden_trade/32/380486_2.png) [@Eden\_Trade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eden_Trade)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-tips-info-and-discussion-and-how-to-manage-15k-orders-or-less-lol-graphs-updated/315260/8 "2021-06-14T06:11:24Z")
Updated main post with new video links of 2 new videos released! Check them out. ---
**Author:** ![Eden\_Trade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eden_trade/32/380486_2.png) [@Eden\_Trade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eden_Trade)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-tips-info-and-discussion-and-how-to-manage-15k-orders-or-less-lol-graphs-updated/315260/9 "2021-06-21T10:41:15Z")
New video upload on how I setup my spreadsheets to manage my markets. ---
**Author:** ![Kybereck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kybereck/32/501833_2.png) [@Kybereck](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kybereck)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-tips-info-and-discussion-and-how-to-manage-15k-orders-or-less-lol-graphs-updated/315260/10 "2021-06-22T19:22:33Z")
How do you combat carpal tunnel updating so many orders? ---
**Author:** ![Eden\_Trade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eden_trade/32/380486_2.png) [@Eden\_Trade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eden_Trade)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 2:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-tips-info-and-discussion-and-how-to-manage-15k-orders-or-less-lol-graphs-updated/315260/11 "2021-06-23T02:23:11Z")
I dont update orders i just restock them! ---
**Author:** ![Shea\_Tzestu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shea_tzestu/32/263279_2.png) [@Shea\_Tzestu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shea_Tzestu)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-tips-info-and-discussion-and-how-to-manage-15k-orders-or-less-lol-graphs-updated/315260/12 "2021-06-23T11:39:10Z")
You use an out of game bot to update orders. ---
**Author:** ![Kybereck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kybereck/32/501833_2.png) [@Kybereck](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kybereck)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-tips-info-and-discussion-and-how-to-manage-15k-orders-or-less-lol-graphs-updated/315260/13 "2021-06-23T20:55:40Z")
So you don’t update orders if someone comes in cheaper with a sizable amount of quantity? Aren’t you exposed to larger price movements in items, especially downward? ---
**Author:** ![Eden\_Trade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eden_trade/32/380486_2.png) [@Eden\_Trade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eden_Trade)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-tips-info-and-discussion-and-how-to-manage-15k-orders-or-less-lol-graphs-updated/315260/14 "2021-06-24T15:33:02Z")
Sure. But with 15k orders hard to compete with all my items! Long as profits are staying same and or still rising its good then. I do keep eye on competition and habe competed several times with some regions against traders. Its a slow moving sell off at times as well. Think of it as a large huge investment like stocks its not all going to pay off right away. Over time it will pay off substantially and its a long term investment. ---
**Author:** ![Eden\_Trade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eden_trade/32/380486_2.png) [@Eden\_Trade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eden_Trade)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-tips-info-and-discussion-and-how-to-manage-15k-orders-or-less-lol-graphs-updated/315260/15 "2021-06-24T15:33:31Z")
No that would be against ccp game rules. I do it myself if i do it. ---
**Author:** ![Kybereck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kybereck/32/501833_2.png) [@Kybereck](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kybereck)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-tips-info-and-discussion-and-how-to-manage-15k-orders-or-less-lol-graphs-updated/315260/16 "2021-06-25T22:13:53Z")
Makes sense to me, much appreciated!! ---
**Author:** ![Zosius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zosius/32/418644_2.png) [@Zosius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zosius)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-tips-info-and-discussion-and-how-to-manage-15k-orders-or-less-lol-graphs-updated/315260/17 "2021-07-03T22:54:57Z")
Can you elaborate how your orders just don’t expire? I can’t imagine managing so many items and not updating orders. I trade in 3 hubs and honestly just to setup orders of all items takes quite a bit of time. If I don’t update my orders at the end of 3 months i would have to spend hours updating or lose it. ---
**Author:** ![Eden\_Trade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eden_trade/32/380486_2.png) [@Eden\_Trade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eden_Trade)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-tips-info-and-discussion-and-how-to-manage-15k-orders-or-less-lol-graphs-updated/315260/18 "2021-07-05T08:19:52Z")
Every time I go to restock my items (usually once per week per trade hub) I just update my orders that are going to fall off in under 14 days. So if the order expires in 7 days I will just click on it, use the keyboard down arrow to drop it down to the next price point, and then click ok. It will then just set the order back to another 90 days before it falls off again. I try to keep all my orders above the 14 day expire date. So anything under 14 days gets updated by like the 1isk. Then you have about another 2 weeks to go back in and do the others that will fall off in 14 days. ---
**Author:** ![Eden\_Trade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eden_trade/32/380486_2.png) [@Eden\_Trade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eden_Trade)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-tips-info-and-discussion-and-how-to-manage-15k-orders-or-less-lol-graphs-updated/315260/19 "2021-07-20T17:00:10Z")
updated my channel on youtube for the update of my spreadsheet setup. Its linked in original post above. ---
**Author:** ![Kybereck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kybereck/32/501833_2.png) [@Kybereck](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kybereck)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-tips-info-and-discussion-and-how-to-manage-15k-orders-or-less-lol-graphs-updated/315260/20 "2021-07-24T21:21:23Z")
How do you source all your items? Buy orders? [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-tips-info-and-discussion-and-how-to-manage-15k-orders-or-less-lol-graphs-updated/315260.md?page=2)