# Mass cloaky camper

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mass-cloaky-camper/20775>\
**Category:** Assembly Hall\
**Created:** [August 30, 2017, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mass-cloaky-camper/20775 "2017-08-30T08:24:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mass-cloaky-camper/20775/148 "2017-09-02T16:13:44Z")

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> [@Linus\_Gorp](#):
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> I honestly don’t care about safe spaces. I’m a grown up and won’t cry about virtual safe spaces being violated in a game that’s all about doing exactly that to other people.

I know dude, i really have no issue with you. It was a semantic chuckle at best. Wasn’t expecting it to be read so deeply into but that’s what i get :parrotbeer:

> [@yellow\_parasol](#):
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> there is no statistic they will not claim is flawed. there is nothing that can be used to convince them, because they don’t give a rats ass about any of that. all they care about is having their way and people like you, who don’t see that, simply aren’t helping improving the situation. sorry.

You don’t have to be sorry this is a discussion. I think both sides probably say the same about each other. Dispite my feelings toward cloaky camping (sandbox, let people do with it what they can) there are core game mechanic issues that could be raised and would have merit. I think it’s important to wade through the sludge and call out the rubbish in the hopes that a bigger picture may emerge from the exchange as a whole.

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