# Measures of success in EVE

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/measures-of-success-in-eve/179349>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [July 31, 2019, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/measures-of-success-in-eve/179349 "2019-07-31T11:05:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/measures-of-success-in-eve/179349/41 "2019-08-01T06:01:32Z")

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In all honesty like all video games I look at EvE as a tool. Was EvE a useful tool that allowed you to progress further in life, by functioning as an aid while studying or working long hours or did it help you relax to make another day of work more bearable

OR

Did it take up a large portion of your life and got in the way of work or study and slowed how successful you are in life?

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/measures-of-success-in-eve/179349/42 "2019-08-01T06:07:36Z")

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> [@Loutro\_Fift](#):
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> > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> > > [@Trevor\_Dalech](#):
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> > > and so pvp (including market pvp for those so inclined) is the only measure of succes worth talking about.
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> > Gotta call bullshite on this as well as the rest of your reply. Just because you don’t enjoy PvE content doesn’t mean everyone else feels the same.
> > 
> > I have Industrial friends in-game who are trillion-airs just from pursuing a Trade career. As an Explorer I have close to 100 bill ISK worth of Faction & Deadspace equipment just sitting in assets gathering dust.
> > 
> > So yeah, being successful in Eve isn’t rated by a Killboard stat.
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> Nor is success determined by how much ISK one has.

Never said it was, that’s just an example.

Ironically you left out the rest of the statement about me creating ‘The Plan’ which has helped countless amounts of Capsuleers over the years. Basically that’s my claim to fame.

Anyway, the point I was actually making - being successful is all in the eye of the beholder.

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**Author:** ![Charles\_Wormholder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charles_wormholder/32/148556_2.png) [@Charles\_Wormholder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charles_Wormholder)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/measures-of-success-in-eve/179349/43 "2019-08-01T09:45:33Z")

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Success is whatever you want it to be. Success is determined by your personal goals and aspirations. If your goal is to make a billion ISK, then when you make a billion ISK you’ve succeeded. If your goal is to kill that guy that destroyed your badger that one time and you do, then you’ve succeeded. It’s not about whether you have good killboard stats or the most ISK, it’s about what you feel determined your own success.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/measures-of-success-in-eve/179349/44 "2019-08-01T10:02:53Z")

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> [@Mark\_Marconi](#):
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> CCP changes the space I live in to make risk closer to reward and I DO NOT come to the forums and complain like a spoiled child, demanding that it be made safer again.

Currently it can be seen a very fine line with this comment.

I know of systems where level 4 agents are offering missions that npcs drop tags and the system is very rarely visited by more than a handful of regulars who are not out to take your ship or cargo.

There are many others I am sure of this. It is just a matter of finding that fine line of risk vs reward.

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**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/measures-of-success-in-eve/179349/45 "2019-08-01T12:16:05Z")

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> [@leavwiz](#):
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> I completed an abysmal site

lol…

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**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/measures-of-success-in-eve/179349/46 "2019-08-01T12:16:41Z")

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> [@leavwiz](#):
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> I mined mercoxit

you can’t be serious on this one: one of the biggest scams in Eve mining.

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**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/measures-of-success-in-eve/179349/47 "2019-08-01T12:17:23Z")

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> [@leavwiz](#):
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> I made a tier 4 PI item

and it took me 500 hours to make 1 item, and 90 planets.

😂

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/measures-of-success-in-eve/179349/48 "2019-08-01T13:00:23Z")

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Manufactured my Palatine Keepstar.  
Mission accomplished.  
Trashed my Palatine Keepstar.  
:dealwithitparrot:

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**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/measures-of-success-in-eve/179349/49 "2019-08-01T13:26:52Z")

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deleting this post.

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**Author:** ![Commander\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/commander_kane/32/199755_2.png) [@Commander\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Commander_Kane)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/measures-of-success-in-eve/179349/50 "2019-08-01T14:02:36Z")

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Don’t forget when people cry about you on the forums…

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**Author:** ![Buoytender\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buoytender_bob/32/374377_2.png) [@Buoytender\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buoytender_Bob)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/measures-of-success-in-eve/179349/51 "2019-08-01T14:23:28Z")

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Surprised no “Conan” quote, yet.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/measures-of-success-in-eve/179349/52 "2019-08-01T14:40:34Z")

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Ask, and ye shall receive.

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/2X/2/20dd9f0bf02a44a1298afb3265bbc258193f29a2.gif)

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/measures-of-success-in-eve/179349/53 "2019-08-01T14:41:41Z")

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“Our guest tonight is Tom Arnold, everybody!”

Little joke for our US friends.

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/measures-of-success-in-eve/179349/54 "2019-08-01T15:02:40Z")

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> [@leavwiz](#):
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> I am successful if:  
> I finished a mission  
> I built my own ship  
> I mined mercoxit  
> I completed an abysmal site  
> I researched a BPO  
> I invented a t2 BPC  
> I sold something on the Market.  
> I made a tier 4 PI item

Joke. Didn’t even mention making a real kill.

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**Author:** ![Fayte](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fayte/32/371975_2.png) [@Fayte](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fayte)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/measures-of-success-in-eve/179349/55 "2019-08-01T15:14:41Z")

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Here’s mine:

Making it home through many wormholes after a long smash and grab trip, without dying.

Finishing any site in a ship I haven’t used before / is sub standard for the site, without dying.

As an explorer, pretty much anything I do, without dying

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**Author:** ![Entereen\_Valcaltus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/entereen_valcaltus/32/172082_2.png) [@Entereen\_Valcaltus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Entereen_Valcaltus)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/measures-of-success-in-eve/179349/56 "2019-08-01T15:22:35Z")

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Hello I am new to this what is a BPO or BPC?

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/measures-of-success-in-eve/179349/57 "2019-08-01T15:26:29Z")

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Blueprint Original

And now new strawberry!

And blueberry copy.

Blueprint copy.

Dammit I shouldnt have skipped lunch

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**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/measures-of-success-in-eve/179349/58 "2019-08-01T15:26:31Z")

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BPO = Blueprint Original (Unlimited runs, in most cases, able to be icreased in material of productive efficiency)  
BPC - Blue print Copy (Limited runs not able to be icreased in material of productive efficiency)

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**Author:** ![Entereen\_Valcaltus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/entereen_valcaltus/32/172082_2.png) [@Entereen\_Valcaltus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Entereen_Valcaltus)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/measures-of-success-in-eve/179349/59 "2019-08-01T15:30:35Z")

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Thank you

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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/measures-of-success-in-eve/179349/60 "2019-08-01T17:20:34Z")

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Um…

Not complaining is a mark of success now?

—Gadget feels suddenly much older

😜

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