# Mechanic or gameplay that is considered unfair gaming

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568>\
**Category:** Assembly Hall\
**Created:** [December 21, 2021, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568 "2021-12-21T00:43:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![naPasik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/napasik/32/301688_2.png) [@naPasik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/naPasik)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/224 "2022-01-02T00:08:33Z")

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> [@Madamal\_Yiryi\_Dethahal](#):
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> Lol the reason the weapons cycle goes on is following:  
> you shoot----- Calculates if its a crit hit or so ------- Takes damage- rest of cycle-----You shoot-----Calculates if its a crit hit or so-----(end of cycle— new cycle) Target Dies-----Sends message that Target is Dead------Cycle Stops Mid Cycle
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> Say thanks to me a 13 year old austrian boy who knows : COMPUTERS NEED TIME TO CALCULATE

Wrong…that what you are talking about its bloody time die…why its only the weapon cycle and nothing else then?? you know computers like I know Gix Firebrand

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**Author:** ![naPasik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/napasik/32/301688_2.png) [@naPasik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/naPasik)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/225 "2022-01-02T00:10:28Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> Although his tears are indeed delicous

Its amazing how every time you post here you prove again how G F you are lol

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**Author:** ![naPasik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/napasik/32/301688_2.png) [@naPasik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/naPasik)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/226 "2022-01-02T00:12:27Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> Bro, literally just look up how CCP describes the abyss and the plethora of sites that track fits and data. The OP messed up by wasting 2 months running on the test server. If he’d spent those 2 months running actuals, he’d have more than enough to cover his losses. It isn’t CCP’s fault that he decided to eat the lead paint. Although his tears are indeed delicous.
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> The Abyss doesn’t need to be changed. It is designed to be one of the most challenging PvE encounters, with the highest risk for the highest payout. It is not, nor should it ever be, that you’re gonna make it 100% of the time. Welcome to RNG 😃

Get a pair of glasses and read again G F…

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**Author:** ![naPasik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/napasik/32/301688_2.png) [@naPasik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/naPasik)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 12:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/227 "2022-01-02T00:14:08Z")

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> [@SmigorX\_Sasen](#):
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> People are so angry about abyss because if you play smart it gives you 100% protection from the pve dangers

Wrong…there are the gankers that can wait for you at the abyssal trace

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**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/228 "2022-01-02T01:39:20Z")

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Ah…but that risk can me mitigated fairly well, friend naPasik.

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**Author:** ![SmigorX\_Sasen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/smigorx_sasen/32/398548_2.png) [@SmigorX\_Sasen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SmigorX_Sasen)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/229 "2022-01-02T03:13:34Z")

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Holly ■■■■, it’s real, hs carebears realy are this stupid. If they would spend 5 minutes researching ganking they would know about few things, one of them being Concord pulling.

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**Author:** ![SmigorX\_Sasen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/smigorx_sasen/32/398548_2.png) [@SmigorX\_Sasen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SmigorX_Sasen)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 3:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/230 "2022-01-02T03:16:33Z")

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No m8, it’s you who has 0 idea, what he described is perfectly correct, other things aren’t effected maybe because they don’t kill the target and rely on it still being there to do another cycle.

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**Author:** ![SmigorX\_Sasen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/smigorx_sasen/32/398548_2.png) [@SmigorX\_Sasen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SmigorX_Sasen)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 3:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/231 "2022-01-02T03:19:03Z")

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Also time die XDDD first it’s TIDI, second you have no idea what that is so maybe don’t use it. It stands for time dilatation in short it makes 1 second in game last more seconds in real time, so f.eg. when the node is so buisy that it needs 2 seconds in real live to calculate 1 second in game, that’s TIDI and if you had ever expirienced it you would know. It makes everything from targetting to module cycles (all of them, even the ones that don’t need a target like hardeners) much much longer

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/232 "2022-01-02T06:12:38Z")

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> [@naPasik](#):
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> Its amazing how every time you post here you prove again how G F you are lol

Um. You know GF stands for girlfriend in the context I used it it in right? So are you just hating on women or do not understand the nomenclature?

> [@naPasik](#):
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> Get a pair of glasses and read again G F…

Already got one, read it and it agrees with me 😃

Also uh… I’m taken bro. Sorry to let you down again.

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**Author:** ![Ragnar\_Cheiften](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ragnar_cheiften/32/209849_2.png) [@Ragnar\_Cheiften](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ragnar_Cheiften)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/233 "2022-01-02T07:10:06Z")

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I would like to bring to light a mechanic which should be addressed and stopped with immediate affect. Items being delivered to someone without their permission there should be a reject option for all players in all situations. This is a massive exploit and infringement of players rights.

This is directed to all CSM’s

Regards Rag

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/234 "2022-01-02T08:22:20Z")

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> [@naPasik](#):
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> Wrong…there are the gankers that can wait for you at the abyssal trace

There are several ways to circumvent that issue.

Not going to list them, but if you do some investigating you can maybe figure some out for yourself.

(Or make a complaint thread if figuring it out for yourself doesn’t work, seems you’re better at that.)

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**Author:** ![naPasik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/napasik/32/301688_2.png) [@naPasik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/naPasik)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/235 "2022-01-02T09:22:09Z")

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> [@SmigorX\_Sasen](#):
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> Holly ■■■■, it’s real, hs carebears realy are this stupid.

I am not a high sec carebear i am really a pvper …and before you go and check my killboard,I die a lot but thats what happens when you solo pvp…also pve so i can get isk to pvp…nothing wrong with that

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**Author:** ![naPasik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/napasik/32/301688_2.png) [@naPasik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/naPasik)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/236 "2022-01-02T09:26:23Z")

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> [@SmigorX\_Sasen](#):
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> other things aren’t effected maybe because they don’t kill the target and rely on it still being there to do another cycle.

I got no idea what you just said…it sounds like you giberishing something…you just wnated to say something but you couldn t so you just put some mixed words there that got no sense just to say something so you can engage in the convo…lol

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**Author:** ![naPasik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/napasik/32/301688_2.png) [@naPasik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/naPasik)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/237 "2022-01-02T09:28:43Z")

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> [@SmigorX\_Sasen](#):
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> time dilatation

„Time die„ short for time dilation…everyone says how they like…thats how i choose to shorten it

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**Author:** ![naPasik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/napasik/32/301688_2.png) [@naPasik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/naPasik)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/238 "2022-01-02T09:29:12Z")

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> [@SmigorX\_Sasen](#):
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> you have no idea what that is so maybe don’t use it

How do you know??

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**Author:** ![naPasik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/napasik/32/301688_2.png) [@naPasik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/naPasik)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/239 "2022-01-02T09:30:46Z")

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> [@SmigorX\_Sasen](#):
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> when the node is so buisy that it needs 2 seconds in real live to calculate 1 second in game, that’s TIDI and if you had ever expirienced it you would know

I don t need no time die class…

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**Author:** ![naPasik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/napasik/32/301688_2.png) [@naPasik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/naPasik)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/240 "2022-01-02T09:31:59Z")

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> [@SmigorX\_Sasen](#):
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> Also time die XDDD first it’s TIDI, second you have no idea what that is so maybe don’t use it. It stands for time dilatation in short it makes 1 second in game last more seconds in real time, so f.eg. when the node is so buisy that it needs 2 seconds in real live to calculate 1 second in game, that’s TIDI and if you had ever expirienced it you would know. It makes everything from targetting to module cycles (all of them, even the ones that don’t need a target like hardeners) much much longer

Right so in the abyss there is time die…lol

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**Author:** ![naPasik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/napasik/32/301688_2.png) [@naPasik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/naPasik)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/241 "2022-01-02T09:33:07Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> Um. You know GF stands for girlfriend in the context I used it it in right? So are you just hating on women or do not understand the nomenclature?

Not when they are separated like this G F you F B N M

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**Author:** ![naPasik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/napasik/32/301688_2.png) [@naPasik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/naPasik)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/242 "2022-01-02T09:37:57Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> Already got one, read it and it agrees with me 😃
> 
> Also uh… I’m taken bro. Sorry to let you down again.

Ah…so you are…i thought as much…thats why you are suffering and got nothing better to do but to do some cyber harassment so you can feel better

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**Author:** ![naPasik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/napasik/32/301688_2.png) [@naPasik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/naPasik)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/243 "2022-01-02T09:39:53Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> Not going to list them, but if you do some investigating you can maybe figure some out for yourself.

Yeah i know…bring concord at your trace…have gankers ready to gank the gankers

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