# Mechanic or gameplay that is considered unfair gaming **URL:** \ **Category:** Assembly Hall\ **Created:** [December 21, 2021, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568 "2021-12-21T00:43:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![naPasik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/napasik/32/301688_2.png) [@naPasik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/naPasik)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2021, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/104 "2021-12-23T15:52:08Z")
> [@Jules\_Madullier](#): > > They could be just bugs these mechanics you are talking about…in which case it should be easy and easily solvable without any dispute We ll just have to wait and see ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2021, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/105 "2021-12-23T21:50:44Z")
Some folks celebrate things like Christmas or other solstice holidays, I would not expect any response on this until January. If the room was a ‘everybody dies no matter what the fit’ Yeah that could be considered sketchy. If it is more ‘you brought a knife to a gunfight’ then that is more on the player, not CCP. If you are asking for a one fit to rule them all? Well that is a different discussion and i am sure the theory crafters love those puzzles. If you do not know what RNG means then you deserve to give Tipa your address and all the possible/probable consequences. If this is still a concern for you in say the second week of Jan? Ping/remind me and I will see who I can chat with. m ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2021, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/106 "2021-12-23T23:13:19Z")
> [@naPasik](#): > > Yes there is : Any video game company can be sued by any player by contacting The International Association of Gaming Regulators (IAGR).There is a gaming law that forbids cheating. The video game companies can sue players for cheating and vice-versa You are mistaking ‘gaming’ here - that organization is a gambling regulator and has no jurisdiction over anything remotely related to EVE or video games in general. To sue CCP, under the EULA, you would have to bring your suit in an Icelandic Court. All of the cases I have seen where companies have sued cheaters, the cause of action was copyright infringement, which has nothing to do with the cheating per se. I’m not sure where you are getting this from, but legally speaking it makes no sense. ---
**Author:** ![Yahamssi\_Judihuijj](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yahamssi_judihuijj/32/392777_2.png) [@Yahamssi\_Judihuijj](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yahamssi_Judihuijj)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2021, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/107 "2021-12-23T23:37:04Z")
@OP Dude…you…seriously…need…to…up…your…alt…posting…skills…just…saying ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2021, 1:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/108 "2021-12-24T01:22:31Z")
Serve them in Yulai. Not even CCP could ignore that. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2021, 2:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/109 "2021-12-24T02:17:44Z")
> [@naPasik](#): > > Yes there is…i just provided evidence…and your argument that it isn t is…its just like for example i just filmed you at the petrol station with a 4k camera while you are filling your car up with petrol and i am showing you the video evidence where your face is clearly visible and you saying…nah…thats not me…thats your argument lol also all these trolls you been posting…its like talking to yourself cause nobody is talking to you… No, you don’t have evidence. You have opinion. There is also no law. Your tears are amazing 😃 I hope the Abyss continues to award your weakness 😃 ---
**Author:** ![naPasik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/napasik/32/301688_2.png) [@naPasik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/naPasik)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2021, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/110 "2021-12-24T06:10:43Z")
> [@Mike\_Azariah](#): > > If you do not know what RNG means then you deserve to give Tipa your address and all the possible/probable consequences. Did you really think that i gave him the right system? lol ---
**Author:** ![naPasik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/napasik/32/301688_2.png) [@naPasik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/naPasik)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2021, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/111 "2021-12-24T06:19:54Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > You are mistaking ‘gaming’ here - that organization is a gambling regulator and has no jurisdiction over anything remotely related to EVE or video games in general. You are right there i was wrong but you can take CCP to court tho…there is no specific law but the law permits you to take them to court. In my case if i think they are cheating with unfairly programming certain mechanics to contribute to player spaceship loss then i have a case. and again…i keep repeating myself about the weapon cycle mechanic…i don t know how many times i repeated that…and everybody seems to ignore it and not reply their opinion about it…and 100% death spawns…which i don t consider cheat mechanic like the weapon cycle…but it would be death by design…thats unfair as well. ---
**Author:** ![naPasik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/napasik/32/301688_2.png) [@naPasik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/naPasik)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2021, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/112 "2021-12-24T06:22:38Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Your tears are amazing 😃 I hope the Abyss continues to award your weakness 😃 lol the miserable is back…I am not crying Troll…i am fighting.. its a difference ---
**Author:** ![naPasik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/napasik/32/301688_2.png) [@naPasik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/naPasik)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2021, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/113 "2021-12-24T06:25:11Z")
> [@Mike\_Azariah](#): > > If you do not know what RNG means No i didn t know…never came across that term before…so sue me lol ---
**Author:** ![naPasik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/napasik/32/301688_2.png) [@naPasik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/naPasik)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2021, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/114 "2021-12-24T06:28:03Z")
> [@Mike\_Azariah](#): > > If the room was a ‘everybody dies no matter what the fit’ Yeah that could be considered sketchy Yes there are death spawns…rooms that will just kill you no matter what,or a combination of all three rooms to slow you down till you are out of time…and that in the combination with the weapon cycle delay…it just kills you no matter what ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2021, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/115 "2021-12-24T09:49:46Z")
> [@naPasik](#): > > lol the miserable is back…I am not crying Troll…i am fighting… its a difference You are crying. And it is delicious 😃 > [@naPasik](#): > > No i didn t know…never came across that term before…so sue me lol Uh. How could you not have? > [@naPasik](#): > > Yes there are death spawns…rooms that will just kill you no matter what,or a combination of all three rooms to slow you down till you are out of time…and that in the combination with the weapon cycle delay…it just kills you no matter what Again, wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2021, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/116 "2021-12-24T10:20:49Z")
![judge](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/c/3/cc3c11712a37258c3a1ae90b1382f6d8f97c5064.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Aida\_Aragon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aida_aragon/32/298293_2.png) [@Aida\_Aragon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aida_Aragon)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2021, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/117 "2021-12-24T11:35:02Z")
Given that CCP advice you to use 2 destroyers ( or 1 cruiser / 3 frigates ) for abyss filaments then I would think that if your trying to solo such content then you are pushing the envelope yourself and it can’t really be seen to be CCP at fault . Regarding the extra tick time it happens everywhere as far as I know and isn’t some deliberate conspiracy to make timed content harder. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2021, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/118 "2021-12-24T12:40:48Z")
Last I checked, my cruise missile does t reset after the killshot. The timer ends when the cycle is complete, even if the killshot is done before the halfway point on the timer, it runs its course. ---
**Author:** ![naPasik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/napasik/32/301688_2.png) [@naPasik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/naPasik)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2021, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/119 "2021-12-24T14:08:26Z")
I think you should get a pair of glasses and check again ---
**Author:** ![naPasik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/napasik/32/301688_2.png) [@naPasik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/naPasik)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2021, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/120 "2021-12-24T14:10:07Z")
> [@Aida\_Aragon](#): > > Given that CCP advice you to use 2 destroyers I was using two destroyers…when did i ever mention that i was using only one…some people are missing half of their brain and can t really comprehend what is been said in a conversation ---
**Author:** ![naPasik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/napasik/32/301688_2.png) [@naPasik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/naPasik)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2021, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/121 "2021-12-24T14:10:59Z")
lol that is a fine picture…i love it ---
**Author:** ![Aida\_Aragon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aida_aragon/32/298293_2.png) [@Aida\_Aragon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aida_Aragon)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2021, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/122 "2021-12-24T14:16:01Z")
You didn’t specify, hence the post . ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2021, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568/123 "2021-12-24T14:26:20Z")
> [@naPasik](#): > > i lost 2 jackdaws worth 5 bil isk each to that spawn Could be taken either way, as using them together, or using them solo [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568.md?page=7)