# Mining efficiency question **URL:** \ **Category:** Mining & Extraction\ **Created:** [May 8, 2018, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mining-efficiency-question/75078 "2018-05-08T17:34:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mr\_BlingBlings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_blingblings/32/68679_2.png) [@Mr\_BlingBlings](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_BlingBlings)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mining-efficiency-question/75078/1 "2018-05-08T17:34:25Z")
Just came back from a 7 yesr hiatus and trying to figure out the most efficient mining group. I have four toons that can mine and one has maxed out mining gang bonuses. So what is the most efficient group. 1. 4 skiffs jet can mining and when the four are full one toon grabs ore hauler and hauls till everything gone then jumps back in a skiff rinse repeat. 2. 3 skiffs and deficated hauler. 3. 3 skiffs 1 Porpoise. When Porpoise full dock and come back. 4. 2 skiffs 1 Porpoise 1 hauler. Thanks in advance! ---
**Author:** ![Lugues\_Slive](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugues_slive/32/454530_2.png) [@Lugues\_Slive](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugues_Slive)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mining-efficiency-question/75078/2 "2018-05-08T17:51:50Z")
> [@Mr\_BlingBlings](#): > > 3 skiffs and deficated hauler That’s a shitty job 😀 I would go with 3 until you can upgrade to an orca, it has better stats across the board. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_BlingBlings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_blingblings/32/68679_2.png) [@Mr\_BlingBlings](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_BlingBlings)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mining-efficiency-question/75078/3 "2018-05-08T18:07:38Z")
The reason I used Porpoise was if the system has a afk camper. I don’t want to risk a orca or really my Rorqual. I don’t mind losing a Porpoise 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mining-efficiency-question/75078/4 "2018-05-08T19:29:12Z")
You can store a combat ship in the Orca, swap one of the skiffs out for it while the other two dock up, and possibly fit that Combat ship with the punt-o-matic fit which will let your Orca warp away in 2 seconds or less. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_BlingBlings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_blingblings/32/68679_2.png) [@Mr\_BlingBlings](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_BlingBlings)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mining-efficiency-question/75078/5 "2018-05-08T20:26:40Z")
Good idea, but I think in null sec a blackbird jammer with jamming drones would be preferable. They can’t tackle or kill what they can’t target 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Penance\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/penance_toralen/32/244089_2.png) [@Penance\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Penance_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mining-efficiency-question/75078/6 "2018-05-08T23:21:31Z")
The safety play would be to use 4 skiffs and a Deep Space Transport for the collecting. DST’s can hold two jet cans. Transports at Level 4 gives you a 60,000 m³ space. Plus they have a solid tank and access to Medium Micro Jump Drives. I would operation the skiffs in pairs, have them fill the same can. A Command Destroyer might be an interesting alternative to the Porpoise. Sadly there is no miner version. But being able to micro jump the mining fleet out of range/danger for an incoming attack - of course all hypothetical. ---
**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mining-efficiency-question/75078/7 "2018-05-08T23:45:10Z")
> [@Mr\_BlingBlings](#): > > Good idea, but I think in null sec a blackbird jammer with jamming drones would be preferable. They can’t tackle or kill what they can’t target 😉 They can’t target what isn’t even on grid to target either. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mining-efficiency-question/75078/8 "2018-05-09T00:03:09Z")
for the purpose of moving items, keep a miasmos in the orca. hyperrigs, inertial stabilizer, warp stab \*2, extenders in the mid. ---
**Author:** ![Gadawan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadawan/32/487927_2.png) [@Gadawan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadawan)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mining-efficiency-question/75078/9 "2018-05-09T14:09:11Z")
> [@MinerArt](#): > > Combat ship with the punt-o-matic fit which will let your Orca warp away in 2 seconds or less. Can you elaborate? Google isn’t helping. ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Clabbacus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_clabbacus/32/131897_2.png) [@Gaius\_Clabbacus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Clabbacus)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mining-efficiency-question/75078/10 "2018-05-09T14:20:30Z")
Webs. ---
**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mining-efficiency-question/75078/11 "2018-05-09T15:18:26Z")
Hulks and Orca/Rorq or you are wasting your time 100%. ---
**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mining-efficiency-question/75078/12 "2018-05-09T15:20:11Z")
> [@Gadawan](#): > > Can you elaborate? Google isn’t helping. Daredevil + Webbifiers = warp in under 1 second punting ship. Use duel in high sec. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mining-efficiency-question/75078/13 "2018-05-09T16:04:51Z")
3 hulk 1 orca if you aren’t in highsec and can’t afford a rorqual after when you can maybe 2 rorqual even 3 and 1 hulk to clean the mercoxit ---
**Author:** ![Lorelei\_Ierendi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lorelei_ierendi/32/190833_2.png) [@Lorelei\_Ierendi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lorelei_Ierendi)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mining-efficiency-question/75078/14 "2018-05-09T23:16:15Z")
> [@Lugues\_Slive](#): > > That’s a shitty job 😀 My thoughts! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mining-efficiency-question/75078/15 "2018-08-07T23:16:27Z")
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