# Mining on the cheap (hauler / venture combo)

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 12, 2020, 3:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mining-on-the-cheap-hauler-venture-combo/248478 "2020-06-12T03:26:45Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mining-on-the-cheap-hauler-venture-combo/248478/34 "2020-06-12T17:27:33Z")

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> [@Yberta\_Molk](#):
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> For an alpha

Alphas generare orders of magnitude more wealth running L1 missions, doing exploration in a 2m exploration ship, or doing Project Discovery, so unfortunately OP’s concept is not sound at all in the slightest.

> [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](#):
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> hard to envision for yourself but some people mine all day as a chosen avenue.

The vast majority of these players want opportunities that simultaneously generate more wealth AND are more fun. Very few players actually enjoy mining or opt for crap-yield mining setups because they find it worthwhile or fun. Guides should, at the barest of minimums, mention alternatives. “By the way, here are several newbie/alpha-friendly low-cost/low-SP alternatives that will generate a ■■■■ ton more ISK and are more fun than Venture mining in Hisec” - this would have been the responsible thing to do.

> [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](#):
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> Doing it cheap, not optimal, people seem to miss this part

Time = money + fun. Venture mining in hisec money+fun down the toilet. This is not why ANY player signed up to play EVE.

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