# Minmatar/Caldari: Relations **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [October 22, 2017, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-caldari-relations/33218 "2017-10-22T11:49:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veikitamo_gesakaarin/32/314638_2.png) [@Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veikitamo_Gesakaarin)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-caldari-relations/33218/101 "2017-10-30T06:52:10Z")
> [@Tannia\_Ambrye](#): > > Inaccurate descriptors don’t hurt either as the subject of the description knows they’re not that thing. So, what’s the point of the name calling again? It’s called trolling. Because this is the IGS, and given an option between presenting an opinion with some degree of thought and substance or responding to the low dangling fruit offered by a troll desiring a response by someone trying to prove someone else wrong on galnet, they will more often than not choose the latter. Sweet Maker, what a bunch of cucks you lot are. ---
**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 8:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-caldari-relations/33218/102 "2017-10-30T08:44:59Z")
> [@Diana\_Kim](#): > > Anyone wants to make any relations with this specimen? I’d make some relations with her. ---
**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-caldari-relations/33218/103 "2017-10-30T08:51:51Z")
I wonder what is the current internal argument between different Caldari corporations, regarding the Imperial slavery argument ? On the one hand, the institution of slavery provides a market for certain products - Ishukone’s TransCranial MicroControllers are perhaps the most widely known product used in slave management. But there are numerous other products, including pharmaceuticals, as well as manufactured items. On the other hand, abolition would likely stimulate a demand in the Empire for a great many consumer and industrial products, as the Holders seek to reform the economies of their holdings - investing in more productive heavy and light industry, while the former slaves would seek to acquire consumer products, and there would also be an interest in construction products, for all the housing and other infrastructure that would be necessary. On another hand though, there is an argument that the Imperial Navy, may be kept from eclipsing the State Navy, through support for or opposition to the institution of slavery. Abolition would likely lead to a recruitment crisis for the Imperial Navy, while support would likely keep the Imperial Navy reliant on the complicated logistics of supporting their Fleet with crew and supplies, which would tend to limit expansionism. Overall, 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Tannia\_Ambrye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tannia_ambrye/32/410653_2.png) [@Tannia\_Ambrye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tannia_Ambrye)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-caldari-relations/33218/104 "2017-10-30T10:48:05Z")
You’re trolling or the people you’re arguing with are? Your wording suggests both. > [@Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](#): > > Sweet Maker, what a bunch of cucks you lot are. I’m not sure what certain people’s sexual practices have to do with the arguments being made here. ---
**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-caldari-relations/33218/105 "2017-10-30T11:13:29Z")
It’s simple, run out of reasonable arguments, say something to try and make people angry whilst showing how dismissive of them you are. ---
**Author:** ![Tannia\_Ambrye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tannia_ambrye/32/410653_2.png) [@Tannia\_Ambrye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tannia_Ambrye)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-caldari-relations/33218/106 "2017-10-30T12:45:38Z")
That pretty much sums my suspicion. ---
**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-caldari-relations/33218/107 "2017-10-30T13:22:14Z")
Uh. It’s not even “sexual preferences,” I don’t think, ma’am. Cuck is an abbreviated form of “cuckold,” which is an archaic term for someone, usually (always?) a man, whose spouse is sleeping around on them. I have no idea why Veik would try to apply it to us, but I doubt at this stage that she’s even trying to make sense. She seems to be spewing an ink cloud to cover her escape while she jets off into the murk. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-caldari-relations/33218/108 "2017-10-30T13:35:05Z")
> [@Elmund\_Egivand](#): > > She has far more friends and supporters than you will ever have. Straightforward and ridiculous lie. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-caldari-relations/33218/109 "2017-10-30T13:42:58Z")
> [@Valerie\_Valate](#): > > I wonder what is the current internal argument between different Caldari corporations, regarding the Imperial slavery argument ? Patriots: “We have slavery illegal here. Whatever they do, is not our business.” Liberals: “They have slavery? Oh, lets trade with them!” Ishukone: “We have TCMC, do buy them!” Practicals: “Hmm… slavery. Can we profit out of it? Probably no, ancient and inefficient labor organization scheme. Our is better.” ---
**Author:** ![Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veikitamo_gesakaarin/32/314638_2.png) [@Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veikitamo_Gesakaarin)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-caldari-relations/33218/110 "2017-10-30T13:44:48Z")
> [@Aria\_Jenneth](#): > > She seems to be spewing an ink cloud to cover her escape while she jets off into the murk. Ink? Please. I do try to keep clean the place where do I live. ---
**Author:** ![Tannia\_Ambrye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tannia_ambrye/32/410653_2.png) [@Tannia\_Ambrye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tannia_Ambrye)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-caldari-relations/33218/111 "2017-10-30T13:54:51Z")
> [@Aria\_Jenneth](#): > > Uh. It’s not even “sexual preferences,” I don’t think, ma’am. Cuck is an abbreviated form of “cuckold,” which is an archaic term for someone, usually (always?) a man, whose spouse is sleeping around on them. It can also refer to a man who gets turned on by watching his wife sleep with another man. The point is, I suppose, to suggest that her opponents are less than men. So it’s not clear if she’s just misapplying the term “cuck”, or if she’s suggesting that her opponents, many who are women, are less than men. It’s all a little weird and says more about her than anybody else. I agree with your assessment that it’s mostly a diversionary tactic. ---
**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-caldari-relations/33218/112 "2017-10-30T14:13:16Z")
Well, the second part of the word is required to determine these things, I understand there’s a culture of women who enjoy similar activities. It’s an interesting cluster, no? Used as an insult it does imply one is lacking in some manly and satisfying fashion, presumably suggesting that Veik, in turn, is capable of satisfying everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-caldari-relations/33218/113 "2017-10-30T14:14:58Z")
> [@Tannia\_Ambrye](#): > > I think we’re all astute enough to spot an overgeneralization when we see one. I think the rest of the readers are smart enough to distinguish an example from generalization or “overgeneralization”. I wouldn’t bet on this, but I do hope. ---
**Author:** ![Tannia\_Ambrye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tannia_ambrye/32/410653_2.png) [@Tannia\_Ambrye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tannia_Ambrye)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-caldari-relations/33218/114 "2017-10-30T14:17:24Z")
Grammar correction appreciated. Point still stands. ---
**Author:** ![Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veikitamo_gesakaarin/32/314638_2.png) [@Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veikitamo_Gesakaarin)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-caldari-relations/33218/115 "2017-10-30T14:46:07Z")
> [@Halcyon\_Ember](#): > > presumably suggesting that Veik, in turn, is capable of satisfying everyone. Actually, as an honourable Caldari officer of the State Protectorate I am trained in the secret and difficult techniques of being able to satisfy anyone I choose with the powers of suggestion that have taken years of rigorous training and practice to master. Anyone who implies otherwise is a liar, troll, and slanderer. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-caldari-relations/33218/116 "2017-10-30T14:50:43Z")
> [@Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](#): > > Actually, as an honourable Caldari officer of the State Protectorate You are a well-known gurista, Gesakaarin. Whom are you trying to fool?.. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veikitamo_gesakaarin/32/314638_2.png) [@Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veikitamo_Gesakaarin)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-caldari-relations/33218/117 "2017-10-30T14:55:05Z")
> [@Diana\_Kim](#): > > You are a well-known gurista, Gesakaarin. Whom are you trying to fool? Ladies and gentlemen, Diana Kim, well known liar and troll who brings slander against Caldari officers without proof. Do not trust her venomous tongue because it is dripping with the poison of Gallente lies. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-caldari-relations/33218/118 "2017-10-30T14:59:13Z")
> [@Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](#): > > Ladies and gentlemen, Diana Kim, well known liar and troll who brings slander against Caldari officers without proof. If anyone here is troll, Gesakaarin, it’s you. Unlike you, I have never spread any lies. ---
**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-caldari-relations/33218/119 "2017-10-30T15:01:22Z")
> [@Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](#): > > Anyone who implies otherwise is a liar, troll, and slanderer. Well, you’ve certainly picked up one aspect of “Caldari Officer” training. ---
**Author:** ![Tannia\_Ambrye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tannia_ambrye/32/410653_2.png) [@Tannia\_Ambrye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tannia_Ambrye)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-caldari-relations/33218/120 "2017-10-30T15:02:34Z")
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