# Minmatar rebellion was a catastrophe **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [September 2, 2017, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-rebellion-was-a-catastrophe/21575 "2017-09-02T22:05:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Elmund\_Egivand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elmund_egivand/32/11038_2.png) [@Elmund\_Egivand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elmund_Egivand)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-rebellion-was-a-catastrophe/21575/62 "2017-09-06T01:57:55Z")
Ah, I kinda see the economic reason for still keeping slaves when robots (for menial labour) and paid labour (for non-menial labour) would do a much better job at wheel-greasing. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-rebellion-was-a-catastrophe/21575/63 "2017-09-06T02:12:19Z")
> [@Makoto\_Priano](#): > > So, by the law, then, when a Caldari station’s defenses shot you down for your firing on a StaPro compatriot, it’s because you were in fact engaged in piracy? Makoto, get the hell out of here with your trolling. Let civilized people talk without your “contribution”. ---
**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 2:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-rebellion-was-a-catastrophe/21575/64 "2017-09-06T02:27:50Z")
So-- yes? You were engaged in piracy? ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-rebellion-was-a-catastrophe/21575/65 "2017-09-06T02:32:52Z")
No, stop asking dumb question please. I wasn’t. Now go away. ---
**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-rebellion-was-a-catastrophe/21575/66 "2017-09-06T03:10:13Z")
But you were gunned down by State Protectorate station defenses. Why was this? Do you have an alternative explanation? After all, the [AAR posted by Veikitamo Gesakaarin is fairly straightforward](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=260761). Why, any Capsuleer can search certain popular Galnet tracking sites for kill 32014522 and find it, and see that the State Protectorate did _74.1%_ of the damage to your ship, and also gunned down your compatriot Mika Firestorm who, as usual, showed up in a Falcon. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-rebellion-was-a-catastrophe/21575/67 "2017-09-06T03:24:25Z")
You are still trolling, Priano? I gave explanation to that incident years ago, how comes, that you manage to find the AAR, posted by this pirate, but not my explanation about it? Maybe if you were smart enough for a little bit, you would know that station defenses don’t really attack pirates. They reply on unsanctioned weapon discharge. And while it was unsanctioned doesn’t mean it was illegal. Now, shoo! ---
**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-rebellion-was-a-catastrophe/21575/68 "2017-09-06T03:43:46Z")
Now, now. Post your justification here, for the masses. You fired on fellow StaPro pilots. What justification did you have for multiple instances of unprovoked aggression against Caldari State forces? ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-rebellion-was-a-catastrophe/21575/69 "2017-09-06T03:44:45Z")
Makoto, excuse me for harsh language, but are you just dumb or lost your ability to read to ask that here and now? ---
**Author:** ![Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veikitamo_gesakaarin/32/314638_2.png) [@Veikitamo\_Gesakaarin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veikitamo_Gesakaarin)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-rebellion-was-a-catastrophe/21575/70 "2017-09-06T04:06:32Z")
When one has lost control over their own narrative due to readily available facts, all that is left is to try and move the goal posts and hope no one notices. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 4:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-rebellion-was-a-catastrophe/21575/71 "2017-09-06T04:13:03Z")
I guess it’s because I’ve shown everyone that Makoto is nothing but a liar and dishonorable person, so now she just pulls out some random things about me, disregarding that they were explained and without understanding that I really didn’t even do something wrong here, just in this desperate attempt to move the goal post. As a result, she just shows herself as incompetent thread derailer. I can only ask people to start ignoring Priano’s antics. ---
**Author:** ![Bjorn\_Tyrson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bjorn_tyrson/32/371958_2.png) [@Bjorn\_Tyrson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bjorn_Tyrson)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-rebellion-was-a-catastrophe/21575/72 "2017-09-06T04:15:15Z")
> [@Diana\_Kim](#): > > All angels are considered criminals according to CONCORD and Caldari State legislation. If I will shoot an angel without a criminal tag and will be arrested, it’s enough for me to present evidences to the tribunal that the target I destroyed belonged to Angel Cartel to be released. > > The only reason when I can not shoot an Angel Cartel employee or asset, is when they surrender. I will have to detain them or capture intact in that case, which I really don’t like doing. > > According to regulations, an encounter of a confirmed member of a pirate organization (e.g. Angel Cartel) wearing a confirmed weapon, or flying a combat ship is a reason to shoot on contact without asking to surrender. > > On encounter of unarmed pirate, I, unfortunately, will have to detain them, and I am allowed to shoot only if they will resist. > > And I am obliged to accept surrender of armed Angel provided they put down their weapons before or during the fight. > > Luckily, majority of Angels are already tagged by CONCORD for elimination for every pilot who will see them. You might be quite surprised at the number of angels who are not flagged by concord. They wouldn’t be the largest criminal organization in the cluster if their members where so easily identified and dispatched. ---
**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 4:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-rebellion-was-a-catastrophe/21575/73 "2017-09-06T04:25:10Z")
Because, Kim, [all you did was call the people you fired on traitors](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/message/3372633/#post3372633). No explanation of why. No explanation of how. Your arbitrary declaration was all you needed. Just as in your harboring of the Templis Dragonaur, or your refusal to acknowledge Heth’s status as a terrorist, or your constant insults and recriminations toward Ishukone. This is relevant because it establishes that your ramblings reflect not at all on State policy, or even on your being an honest and impartial agent of State policy, but instead a rogue agent draping herself in the State flag despite piracy and criminal behavior. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 4:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-rebellion-was-a-catastrophe/21575/74 "2017-09-06T04:26:32Z")
> [@Makoto\_Priano](#): > > the State flag There’s a _flag_? I thought there was just a logo! ---
**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 4:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-rebellion-was-a-catastrophe/21575/75 "2017-09-06T04:27:19Z")
But you put a logo on a flag! [Trust me, I know](https://i.imgur.com/Nd6fGeW.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 4:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-rebellion-was-a-catastrophe/21575/76 "2017-09-06T04:27:33Z")
> [@Bjorn\_Tyrson](#): > > You might be quite surprised at the number of angels who are not flagged by concord. They wouldn’t be the largest criminal organization in the cluster if their members where so easily identified and dispatched. Unfortunately. But there are agents who are busy finding them to tag, sometimes even tag and neutralize. And still, if I won’t get bounty or salary (I am different kind of agent with different tasks), I’ll still feel warm for every neutralized angel, knowing there’s one less minmatar bandit running around and isn’t scheming anything to hurt Caldari citizens anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 4:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-rebellion-was-a-catastrophe/21575/77 "2017-09-06T04:34:05Z")
> [@Makoto\_Priano](#): > > Because, Kim, all you did was call the people you fired on traitors. No explanation of why. No explanation of how. Your arbitrary declaration was all you needed. Because I did explanation why they were traitors elsewhere during that time. Since you managed to find that report yourself, you’ll manage to find explanation as well. Now be gone, troll, and stop poisoning conversation with your hatred and inane blaming attempts. We all now know it’s you who is the liar and dishonorable person, because of this proof: > **[A chance for Makoto Priano to restore her honor (challenge) - Intergalactic...](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/topic/381560/)** > > EVE allows you to discover, explore and dominate an amazing science fiction universe while you fight, trade, form corporations and alliances with other players. Now, though, we can add to list of your lies blame of Caldari Officer in harboring of the Templis Dragonaurs. I have I already posted somewhere that I’ve dismissed all Dragonaurs from my ship and currently have 0 under my employment. You missed that too? Oops! Anyway, be gone and cease your rants already, honorless tyuui. You don’t deserve even looking in my direction. ---
**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-rebellion-was-a-catastrophe/21575/78 "2017-09-06T15:17:55Z")
Kim, you continue to fail to explain why you engaged in piracy. ---
**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-rebellion-was-a-catastrophe/21575/79 "2017-09-06T15:20:52Z")
Its only piracy if others do it. By the writ issued by her own delusions, every action she takes is legal and approved by the state. When Diana makes a breakfast it is a state approved breakfast, superior to all breakfasts made by filthy savages. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-rebellion-was-a-catastrophe/21575/80 "2017-09-06T15:52:02Z")
And now she’s going to come in and haughtily remind you that she doesn’t ‘make breakfast’ she just eats protein ration bars. ---
**Author:** ![Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corraidhin_farsaidh/32/10994_2.png) [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corraidhin_Farsaidh)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-rebellion-was-a-catastrophe/21575/81 "2017-09-06T15:57:31Z")
Odd, I’ve offered her a protein ration many times and she still hasn’t taken me up on it… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-rebellion-was-a-catastrophe/21575.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/minmatar-rebellion-was-a-catastrophe/21575.md?page=5)