# Mission agent offers three missions to choice from (instead of one) **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [November 24, 2023, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-agent-offers-three-missions-to-choice-from-instead-of-one/429487 "2023-11-24T10:30:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![John\_Lawyer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_lawyer/32/398808_2.png) [@John\_Lawyer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Lawyer)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-agent-offers-three-missions-to-choice-from-instead-of-one/429487/1 "2023-11-24T10:30:16Z")
Let mission agent NPC offers several options (three?) when accepting the mission, so players could choice them based on specialization. Marauder pilot will skip burner missions and vice versa. Also, developers will acquire unique statistics on which missions are taken most often and which - most rare. This will highlight missions with problematic design (no one wants them ☹ ), so they (devs) will know what to fix (if needed). ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-agent-offers-three-missions-to-choice-from-instead-of-one/429487/2 "2023-11-24T11:56:08Z")
Would basically circumvent the penalty for declining once every 4 hours and allowing people to cherrypick the most lucrative missions only. Leading do even higher max income in ISK/h. Since the profits for L4 are already very good if you know how to run them efficiently, I am not so sure that even more ISK in the game would be a good thing. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfgang\_Jannesen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wolfgang_jannesen/32/496726_2.png) [@Wolfgang\_Jannesen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wolfgang_Jannesen)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-agent-offers-three-missions-to-choice-from-instead-of-one/429487/3 "2023-11-24T13:01:35Z")
There is absolutely no reason that this should not be an option. The difference between incomes in level 4 missions is not so drastic that this is going to make a dent in the economy whatsoever, but it will keep players from getting the dreaded chain of standing destroying missions. Everybody wins, quality of life only goes up. ---
**Author:** ![Nicen\_Jehr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicen_jehr/32/388048_2.png) [@Nicen\_Jehr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicen_Jehr)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-agent-offers-three-missions-to-choice-from-instead-of-one/429487/4 "2023-11-24T14:11:55Z")
I wouldn’t mind rewarding effective agent standing 5 with a second choice and rewarding effective agent standing 9 with a third choice ---
**Author:** ![Moko\_Musana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moko_musana/32/373694_2.png) [@Moko\_Musana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moko_Musana)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-agent-offers-three-missions-to-choice-from-instead-of-one/429487/5 "2023-11-24T15:31:53Z")
First off, check @Aceyfacey 's explanation how he’s managing to decline missions he doens’t like : > [@Guide to Faction standings (Decline ALL bad missions!)](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guide-to-faction-standings-decline-all-bad-missions/300222): > > o7 Made a guide here how to get good faction standings to decline bad missions without being unable to continue to do missions. When I was a new player I found it very confusing so hope it helps! grin[[EVE Online - Standings Guide - Decline missions WITHOUT standing loss] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YVskryQTSI) He doesn’t mention it, but you can also run [epic arcs](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Epic_arcs) to bolster your faction standings w/o taking negative impacts towards the other factions. Also, NPC agents usually cluster in pockets, i.e. other NPCs of the same faction will be closeby. If one Agent gives you a poor mission, and your deny cooldown is active, travel to the next one. The Isenairos Pocket (i.e. Solar Systems around Isenairos), for example. has many lvl4 security agents of corporations that are part of the Caldari faction, all within 2 jumps of each other, making it a popular missioning area. Missioners [playing eve the right way](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/25-off-omega-for-additional-accounts), use so called mission pullers: You put multiple alt capsuleers into your missioning stage station, and instead of attempting to go to another station and check whether the NPCs there give you better missions, you alt-tab to the next client, and check whether the other alt can get a better mission. If it can, the alt capsuleer “pulls” the mission, and the main runs it. In most situations, you want to create a fleet consisting of your mission runner and the puller alt(s), which will cause the agent and corporation standings gains, as well as the corporation LP, to be shared among both, which is handy in case your pullers lack standings with some corporation, in which case you can powerlevel your puller with the runner. If the puller denies a mission, only the puller will suffer a standings hit, while the standings gain will be shared among the puller(s) and the runner(s). Faction standing gains are never shared, with the exception of the epic arc final mission rewards. Of cause, the two techniques can be combined, in case the puller gets poor missions, too, and alt tabbing to other pullers yields only in more poor mission provisions until you find our you weren’t playing eve in a sufficiently good way, i.e. you ran out of alts before you ran out of poor mission offers. ---
**Author:** ![Sara\_Seraph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sara_seraph/32/495525_2.png) [@Sara\_Seraph](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sara_Seraph)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-agent-offers-three-missions-to-choice-from-instead-of-one/429487/7 "2023-11-26T06:02:58Z")
This is nice. ---
**Author:** ![A8ina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/a8ina/32/396998_2.png) [@A8ina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/A8ina)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-agent-offers-three-missions-to-choice-from-instead-of-one/429487/9 "2023-11-26T17:09:41Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > I am not so sure that even more ISK in the game would be a good thing. Make an isk form missions in the game it’s fine it doesn’t hurt anybody , the Plex is the one that kills the game economy ---
**Author:** ![John\_Lawyer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_lawyer/32/398808_2.png) [@John\_Lawyer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Lawyer)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-agent-offers-three-missions-to-choice-from-instead-of-one/429487/10 "2023-11-26T19:47:31Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > allowing people to cherrypick the most lucrative missions only Yes, THIS word - cherrypick. If player has to cherrypick that means we have poorly designed, unbalanced missions which SHOULD BE fixed. Also, about concern of increased ISK flood - I believe, it’s only relates with “pure” ISKs, like NPC bounties and mission rewards. But we also have commodities (tags, loot, salvage) and Loyalty Points (which has a decent ISK-sink potential). So, it doesn’t look that bad to me 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Moko\_Musana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moko_musana/32/373694_2.png) [@Moko\_Musana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moko_Musana)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-agent-offers-three-missions-to-choice-from-instead-of-one/429487/11 "2023-11-27T18:17:31Z")
PLEX trade doesn’t create ISK though, the ISK/PLEX only changes it’s owner. In fact it, PLEX trade removes ISK from the game, via SCC market transaction taxes and/or contract fees. ISK is created when CONCORD hands players kill bounties, when Mission reward bounties are payed out, and when NPCs buy Overseer Personal Effects, Sleeper Data, Abyss Loot, and other items that are “generated”. Arguably, Mission Bounties are the least significant ISK faucet, as for security missions, which pay more bounties then the other mission types, pay considerably less ISK then the concord bounties on the NPCs you had to wreck in order to turn in the mission. The LP and NPC regular drops might be a source of income for a player, though that income doesn’t have an ISK form before other players are willing to trade their ISK for those. ---
**Author:** ![0ptimus\_Swine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/0ptimus_swine/32/385816_2.png) [@0ptimus\_Swine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/0ptimus_Swine)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 1:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-agent-offers-three-missions-to-choice-from-instead-of-one/429487/12 "2023-12-08T01:34:04Z")
I’d have run burners if NPC’s didnt cheat. But they do cheat, so I never ran them. But as they don’t incur penalty to decline, I don’t the current system of one at a time. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Lawyer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_lawyer/32/398808_2.png) [@John\_Lawyer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Lawyer)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-agent-offers-three-missions-to-choice-from-instead-of-one/429487/13 "2023-12-08T10:55:51Z")
How do they cheat? Repping too hard? :)) ---
**Author:** ![Moko\_Musana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moko_musana/32/373694_2.png) [@Moko\_Musana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moko_Musana)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-agent-offers-three-missions-to-choice-from-instead-of-one/429487/14 "2023-12-08T11:47:15Z")
Most target ships in the burner sites _can_ be fit by players to be surprisingly powerful if you’re willing to invest into them hard enough. It comes at the odds of losing all those modules though, and while you might not care about it, the one scooping the loot definitely cares. I.e. if those rats dropped blingier loot then they do, it would feel more like wrecking similar player ships. Here’s a HAC+combat recon picking a fight with 5 marauders and a 50+ cruiser and BC fleet, showing off what enough bling can do: [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/3/7/237087a6f319e8a6719c17397671f63728ca6d8c.jpeg "BESTLA Vol. 3") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CQGRXoz2t8) A small detail is that he was isk negative, because the whole fleet was less expensive then the HAC’s boosters alone. ---
**Author:** ![0ptimus\_Swine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/0ptimus_swine/32/385816_2.png) [@0ptimus\_Swine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/0ptimus_Swine)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-agent-offers-three-missions-to-choice-from-instead-of-one/429487/15 "2023-12-08T21:48:05Z")
What happens if you NOS an NPC? ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-agent-offers-three-missions-to-choice-from-instead-of-one/429487/16 "2023-12-08T22:09:18Z")
From some you get cap, from others you don’t. Depends on how they are programmed. What does it matter anyway, they are far from being unbeatable if you know what to do. In fact, they are pretty easy with a well-prepared ship and there are even guys who specialize in _just farming burners_ and ignore the standard missions. ---
**Author:** ![0ptimus\_Swine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/0ptimus_swine/32/385816_2.png) [@0ptimus\_Swine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/0ptimus_Swine)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2023, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-agent-offers-three-missions-to-choice-from-instead-of-one/429487/17 "2023-12-09T01:14:50Z")
So you’re saying NPCs are totally unpredicatable? And that it requires specialist information to beat them rather than just knowing what ship they are in? I’m totally ok with it taking a specific fit to kill them. I’m not ok with needing each of these fits in each of my mission hubs just to run missions. ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2023, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-agent-offers-three-missions-to-choice-from-instead-of-one/429487/18 "2023-12-09T01:41:52Z")
> [@0ptimus\_Swine](#): > > And that it requires specialist information to beat them rather than just knowing what ship they are in? its all about the informations ! some activities dont need that much and some activities need a lot of informations ! btw … still a L4 mission ( not a burner ) you are need some specific informations → damage types nothing ingame tells you how to fit your ship agtainst [insert your favorite pirate faction] and which resistanz holey they have or which dmg type they deal ! the first time you get this informations are in the missions ( or on 3rd party sites ) when you can look at their info and see the information you need but hey… before you start you didnt know that angles fires a lot ecplosive and have a lot of EM/THM resistance and now youre bring your abadon to this mission … wich wonder that this is not a good choice of ship oO as you see, almost everything needs specific informations ! the fact that after 20 years eve everybody knows that [insert your favorite pirate faction] deals damage type X and needs damage type Y ! badly marauders stop you from needing such informations 😕 they are to strong for L4 with their tank ability´s and their 2500+dps … ---
**Author:** ![0ptimus\_Swine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/0ptimus_swine/32/385816_2.png) [@0ptimus\_Swine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/0ptimus_Swine)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2023, 1:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-agent-offers-three-missions-to-choice-from-instead-of-one/429487/19 "2023-12-09T01:48:34Z")
Again, what happens if i NOS an NPC? ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2023, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-agent-offers-three-missions-to-choice-from-instead-of-one/429487/20 "2023-12-09T01:49:25Z")
> [@0ptimus\_Swine](#): > > Again, what happens if i NOS an NPC? > [@Syzygium](#): > > From some you get cap, from others you don’t. and where exactly is your problem with “NOS an NPC” ? ---
**Author:** ![0ptimus\_Swine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/0ptimus_swine/32/385816_2.png) [@0ptimus\_Swine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/0ptimus_Swine)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2023, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-agent-offers-three-missions-to-choice-from-instead-of-one/429487/21 "2023-12-09T01:50:06Z")
That sometimes a module does what it is supposed to do, and other times it does not. ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2023, 1:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-agent-offers-three-missions-to-choice-from-instead-of-one/429487/22 "2023-12-09T01:52:14Z")
you are talking against NPC`s … why you are needing any NOS for any NPC activity ? oO if you need a NOS then youre fit is ■■■■ and you need to rework it ! you also dont start to e-war NPC´s with jams or damps xD [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-agent-offers-three-missions-to-choice-from-instead-of-one/429487.md?page=2)