# Mission Love Where is it CCP **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 28, 2025, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-love-where-is-it-ccp/487785 "2025-05-28T19:40:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-love-where-is-it-ccp/487785/21 "2025-05-29T14:24:49Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > They said it was always a possibility, but I didn’t get the impression it would really be given more than a passing thought… CCP always says vague noncommittal stuff like this, to keep those players desperately hoping for a significant improvement hanging on and paying. It’s their way of saying “Gee if wishes were fishes we’d wish this fixed”. They even straight up said at Fanfest they weren’t interested in fixing Career agents and NPE anymore, so it’s unlikely any other missions will receive more attention. The best and smartest thing they could have done would have been to create an _actual_ mission editor/creator for Freelance jobs, and put the work in the hands of their players. Who apparently have a lot more creative energy than CCP does. Since @DeT_Resprox has single-handedly created a better content creator than CCP has, working with external interfaces: > [@Presenting EVE PANDORA](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/presenting-eve-pandora/339592): > > Good morning, Latest development post can be found [here - March 2024](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/presenting-eve-pandora/339592/100) The [PANDORA Agency](https://evepandora.com) system has gone live following almost 1 year in development and testing, with intense [public beta testing coming to an end after 3 months](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/evepandora-final-beta-phase-4-launched/326462). The PANDORA Agency has been around in one form or another since around 2006. In that time, it was more of a combat system for members of T.R.I.A.D only to recognise kills and allowing for the placement of bounties on players - all through a PHP driven website. Rewards w… I had hope for Freelance missions when it was announced but as usual, CCP has managed to take a conceptual EVE goldmine and turn it into Dust. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-love-where-is-it-ccp/487785/22 "2025-05-29T17:54:10Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > They even straight up said at Fanfest they weren’t interested in fixing Career agents and NPE anymore Imsorrywhat? ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-love-where-is-it-ccp/487785/23 "2025-05-29T18:01:40Z")
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**Author:** ![Skadoos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skadoos/32/409261_2.png) [@Skadoos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skadoos)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-love-where-is-it-ccp/487785/24 "2025-05-29T18:11:09Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > They even straight up said at Fanfest they weren’t interested in fixing Career agents and NPE anymore, so it’s unlikely any other missions will receive more attention. It’s not what I got from the Eve Keynote. > You are the champions we need. Our commitment is to improve the game from now on, not necessarily fix the new player experience. We want to add new experiences, opportunities for everyone, but no one does a better job of explaining Eve than you do. You mentor the new players better than we do. So instead of teaching ourselves, we develop tools for you and a safety net to keep the solo players treading water and building confidence. > But not only that, we have developed some new technology that we call the Goalsmith that empowers us to make more contribution methods better and faster than ever before, which means that we can focus more on the bread and butter, giving you guys more missions, epic arcs, and sites, things like that. Which are still intentions at best, see Omber mining jobs in Tama etc., but not straitght up dismissal. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-love-where-is-it-ccp/487785/25 "2025-05-29T18:14:13Z")
As a PvP player, I certainly hope CCP improves the PvE experience in EvE. What a lot of acronyms! Unfortunately, my opponents are often asleep. More engaging content would keep the miners awake at night. I for one want to see more BLOOD RAIDER roleplay in Lonetrek! > **[Mackinaw | Hans Ohloo | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/127464537/)** > > Hans Ohloo (Stringray Geotech Corp.) lost their Mackinaw in Ibura (Lonetrek). Final Blow by Uwu Jonestown (Servant Sisters of GRIEF) flying in a Coercer. Total Value: 324,199,932.95 ISK 🧛‍♀️ ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-love-where-is-it-ccp/487785/26 "2025-05-29T18:44:46Z")
**TL;DR** : CCP has mostly neglected standard agent missions. They’ve shifted focus to **Abyssals** , **FW PvE** , **events** , and **dynamic content** like **Homefront Operations** (2023), but those don’t overhaul the old mission system. Legacy missions remain mostly unchanged since the 2000s. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-love-where-is-it-ccp/487785/27 "2025-05-29T18:53:34Z")
* * * ![Missions](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/2/b/12b45023eba30bc2b5f7c3883cabd366a5781540.png) * * * ![Player Retention](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/d/f/fdf6062284757d79e5cbb17e41cb96f612a63abf.png) * * * ---
**Author:** ![Eternus8lux8lucis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eternus8lux8lucis/32/385152_2.png) [@Eternus8lux8lucis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternus8lux8lucis)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-love-where-is-it-ccp/487785/28 "2025-05-29T20:59:41Z")
I actually like this idea. Yet not a faction or deadspace escalation loot tables. You could have anti faction escalations. So Caldari escalations would take you into gallente space fighting gallente faction ships and so on. Even an option in the escalation message to choose where to go from 3 different areas. Think high, low, null with travel time and an engagement timer limit to accomplish the escalation, or even a wh/abyssal option to teleport you to a random location immediately with very “unknown” and potentially lethal but also lucrative loot drops. Im trying to think of what the loot table would be though… perhaps LP tokens that have to be turned into certain areas, much like ESS tokens, WH blue loot or DED lootboxes. Allowing for stealing and destruction through movement to different locations. And then possibly the very odd, 0.01%, DED escalation lootable suitable for the mission level. ---
**Author:** ![Skjer\_Artrald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skjer_artrald/32/462498_2.png) [@Skjer\_Artrald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skjer_Artrald)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-love-where-is-it-ccp/487785/30 "2025-05-29T23:31:18Z")
holy crisis, is this proof that eve is dying? i guess it does explain why the expansion doesn’t have new stuff (still worst management imaginable but apparently its how they think/operate) ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 4:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-love-where-is-it-ccp/487785/31 "2025-05-30T04:03:58Z")
> [@Skjer\_Artrald](#): > > “eve is dying” 22 years Quote and Counting ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-love-where-is-it-ccp/487785/32 "2025-05-30T06:28:12Z")
Freelance could’ve been such a game-changer. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-love-where-is-it-ccp/487785/33 "2025-05-30T06:28:50Z")
> [@Lydra\_Victor](#): > > > [@Skjer\_Artrald](#): > > > > “eve is dying” > > 22 years Quote and Counting I think it is dying since 1873. 🤔 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-love-where-is-it-ccp/487785/34 "2025-05-30T07:14:29Z")
Honestly the concept is just dumb as well as the execution. The tools already exist to do the stuff that people would actually do with it. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-love-where-is-it-ccp/487785/35 "2025-05-30T08:20:08Z")
> [@Lydra\_Victor](#): > > 22 years [https://evewho.com/character/2123299325](https://evewho.com/character/2123299325) ## Result: 63 days And you already know **EVERYTHING** … * * * ![giphy](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/f/8/9f85e8e74206d3ac771e19b889e96c7fcf17b9c0.gif) * * * ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-love-where-is-it-ccp/487785/36 "2025-05-30T08:45:12Z")
I can almost guarantee we won’t see any kind of NPC mission overhaul. In fact, I’d say less than zero chance. When CCP says “they’re not ruling it out” - it means they’ve already ruled it out. Old code, whatever the reason - there’s just no desire to revisit missions. That ship has unfortunately sailed and found months later adrift with the crew having mysteriously vanished… ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-love-where-is-it-ccp/487785/37 "2025-05-30T09:27:39Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > Result: 63 days you should have wait for the “69” ---
**Author:** ![xXTANDIXx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxtandixx/32/447928_2.png) [@xXTANDIXx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xXTANDIXx)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-love-where-is-it-ccp/487785/38 "2025-05-30T13:25:47Z")
I am not saying there isn’t plenty to do on EVE Anyone who has done Abyss knows how boring it is Scanning Same thing ESS so so many issues with Cloaked ships What else do we have solo Mining Sleepy time DEVS why not do more with missions The Corp Missions ha that one is funny I see more traps then a house infested with rats Fixing up Missions would give them solo players more chances to Get new drops Add more missions Instead you can setup 1 ship do every lvl 4 with ease When you can do 2 6 hour missions in 30 minutes you know it is boring Not saying take from the cash cow Null sec Saying expand to other players as well I see some things added in this update and you have to think WHY When they could have spent a little time changing a few things adding a few things to lvl 4 missions P.S I can’t even get CCP to respond to a open ticket I don’t expect then to respond to this. Unless we yell loud enough Hate missions or like them Missions deserve and so over due for upgrades ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-love-where-is-it-ccp/487785/39 "2025-05-30T14:02:45Z")
We need the EVE equivalent of the Kobayashi Maru. ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-love-where-is-it-ccp/487785/40 "2025-05-30T14:57:31Z")
When you go to Cinema you don’t do it to see other watchers (listen to them, smelling popcorn and such stuff). You go there to watch a movie. And other watchers are rather distraction. Think about it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-love-where-is-it-ccp/487785/41 "2025-05-30T15:12:28Z")
> [@March\_rabbit](#): > > you don’t do it to see other watchers A bit off: an unfortunate fact of these days that there are more and more people who tend to watch those obnoxious reaction channels where people act surprised (in clearly fake, forced, gross, etc. manner) and provide other such clownish behavior in response to a video or movie. Such channels appear to be quite popular for some reason. 🤔 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-love-where-is-it-ccp/487785.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-love-where-is-it-ccp/487785.md?page=3)