# Mission Ship Suggestion Request **URL:** \ **Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\ **Created:** [July 14, 2018, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-ship-suggestion-request/89191 "2018-07-14T12:33:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![The\_Ridgeback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_ridgeback/32/423802_2.png) [@The\_Ridgeback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Ridgeback)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-ship-suggestion-request/89191/1 "2018-07-14T12:33:06Z")
Recently came back to Eve after a long break and looking to get back into mission running again but so much has changed it seems. I fly Minmatar (all V’s) and Caldari (all IV’s) with full T2 projectile / missile skills. What I am looking for is a mission running ship that can do level 4’s preferably with little management from myself so I can basically warp in, kill everything and not worry about managing my tank and such (if that’s possible these days). I have been looking at the Vargur Maurauder and the Caldari Navy Raven but don’t know which would be more suited. Also if you have any set-up’s that are reasonably priced that would be appreciated, I don’t mind spending money on a set-up but I am not willing to pimp out a ship to make it a gankers wet dream. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-ship-suggestion-request/89191/2 "2018-07-14T12:50:10Z")
Rattlesnake will serve you well ---
**Author:** ![Veine\_Miromme](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veine_miromme/32/269859_2.png) [@Veine\_Miromme](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veine_Miromme)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-ship-suggestion-request/89191/3 "2018-07-14T13:07:03Z")
> [@Dark\_Engraver](#): > > Rattlesnake will serve you well [Rattlesnake - EVE University Wiki](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Rattlesnake) , Guristas is Gallente Caldari . [https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Machariel](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Machariel) Machariel , Angel Cartel is Gallente Minmatar . Mordu’s Legion is Gallente Caldari. SOE is Gallente Amarr. Serpentis is Gallente Minmatar . Blood Raider is Minmatar Amarr. Sansha is Caldari Amarr. CONCORD is Gallente Minmatar Caldari Amarr ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-ship-suggestion-request/89191/4 "2018-07-14T14:38:51Z")
> [@The\_Ridgeback](#): > > I am not willing to pimp out a ship to make it a gankers wet dream. It’s not about the price. I have flown 2+B machs with no issue. Two things make you a target : you are not moving and you are in a mission hub. Plus of course, you stay in a corp with wardecs on. Then, the most important factor is the price. What is a correct price for you ? To me a ship that cost less than 1B is “cheap”. The efficiency improvement from pimped modules is IMO totally worth the increase in price, because a “bit more” tank from a pimped tank module means more apply/DPS rigs and mods ; and better propmod usually means bettter cap . So don’t be afraid to pimp your ship, as long as you are not a sitting duck in a mission hub it should be fine. So now, about the ship. Depending on your agents, ships are more or less efficient. eg mach is not that good vs sansha/blood, while NM is. If you just need to get back to basics, a temporary raven with MJD+AB should be enough to snipe any mission - though not very huge DPS. > **raven 500M** > > ``` > [Raven, *Simulated Raven] > Ballistic Control System II > Ballistic Control System II > Ballistic Control System II > Signal Amplifier II > Damage Control II > > Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery > Large Micro Jump Drive > 100MN Afterburner II > Republic Fleet Target Painter > Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster > Adaptive Invulnerability Field II > Caldari Navy Kinetic Deflection Field > > Cruise Missile Launcher II > Cruise Missile Launcher II > Cruise Missile Launcher II > Cruise Missile Launcher II > Cruise Missile Launcher II > Cruise Missile Launcher II > > Large Warhead Flare Catalyst II > Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II > Large Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II > > Hornet II x5 > > Inferno Fury Cruise Missile x162 > > ``` The pith gives the ability to survive big damage in case you just jumped in with your mjd on cooldown. You can swap it for a gist c-type large, and replace cap rig with a CCC II to be cap stable but at the price of lower shield boosting(more than twice less) - but then you have more fitting room to get a pith hardener. You need to switch the hardener according to mission (here it is vs mordu/guristas/angel). Other than that, you warp in, you mjd, then you paint and spread the pain. If you add a auto-targeting in high (don’t activate it), you have 11 targets (instead of base 7) . you can target at 140 km, at which range your painter will do less effect BUT you can use it to aggro frigates, which then will rush towards you with mwd , while you switch to precision cruise to have better apply DPS is 870 with cruise @140 km, 620 with precision @116 km alpha is 6k with cruise, 4k with precision. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ridgeback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_ridgeback/32/423802_2.png) [@The\_Ridgeback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Ridgeback)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-ship-suggestion-request/89191/5 "2018-07-14T18:04:12Z")
Thanks all for the replies, much appreciated. As for the Machariel & rattlesnake suggestions, I may train up the Gallente ship skills one day but I am not looking to go down that route for the foreseeable future as i am working on one skill-plan at a time and finishing the Caldari stuff has me going for another few months. @Anderson_Geten Thanks for the detailed response, regarding the ganking though I am always on the move, I will be in a mission hub due to the corp I am running missions for (is that really an issue?) and as for war dec’s, I’d be too busy camping people to be flying my PVE ships so that’s not a problem. As for correct price, my budget is around two billion which leaves me with funds for replacements and other stuff but then again if ganking is a problem in mission hubs then I want to minimise my losses. The missions are going to be for Minmatar faction so iirc the enemys are usually Angel Cartel. I’ll fit out a Raven shortly and have a few test runs plus I guess they will get me back up to speed with L4 missions. Thanks again for the response. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-ship-suggestion-request/89191/6 "2018-07-14T19:01:44Z")
I think you misunderstood me. When I say “mission hub”, I mean the few systems that have 10+ people in local doing missions. Some mission agents are way better than the other, the best mission agents have more people. eg the garoun agent in Aclan, I kow of friends who got their mtu killed there, so while this is one of the best L4 places with Gelfiven(thukker), Villore(fed), Teonusude(thukker), Myyhera(amarr), Vaajaita(cald), this is also a place where you need to be warry of your environment (and please avoid using mtu for “full clear” this is a call to be ganked as well as a loss in isk). Of course don’t go to lanngisi, there are even people on the undock to scan you… ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ridgeback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_ridgeback/32/423802_2.png) [@The\_Ridgeback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Ridgeback)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-ship-suggestion-request/89191/7 "2018-07-14T20:22:04Z")
Ahh gotchya, my mission running location is high - highsec and probably not the most profitable. Used to be really popular but not many people there now which must be down to the profitability. That’s fine with me though, I have a Noctis ready for clearing up the wrecks too so my main ship doesn’t have to hang around once the rats are dealt with. Thanks again. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-ship-suggestion-request/89191/8 "2018-07-14T21:14:19Z")
Don’t use a noctis, it’s useless. Unless you have an alt for this. For the most interesting missions, I gave you a few systems that have good agents. I can’t find an interesting minmatar agent today, the best one in Adrallezoen is less than half the worth of Aclan/Villore. If I may suggest, go for thukker agents, if you have high matari standing you should also have good thukker standing. Just don’t do storyline for them, it screws almost all other factions. Instead, do matari storyline here and there. thukker in Molden heath are 50% better than matar . ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-ship-suggestion-request/89191/9 "2018-07-14T21:16:02Z")
If you do the anti amarr thukker missions you’ll make quite a bit on amarr navy tags alone as long as you can suffer the standing loss ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-ship-suggestion-request/89191/10 "2018-07-14T21:19:29Z")
The one with several BS popping around the structure to destroy ? Or the one where you have to finish a BC ? ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-ship-suggestion-request/89191/11 "2018-07-14T21:20:20Z")
The first one with the waves of rats poping near a control tower.I used to always do it ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2018, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-ship-suggestion-request/89191/12 "2018-07-19T08:26:54Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Don’t use a noctis, it’s useless. Unless you have an alt for this. I’m gonna have to disagree with this. I use a Noctis all the time to salvage and loot Lv 4 missions, with high skills and T2 equipment, the Noctis will clear the field rather quickly. ---
**Author:** ![Anize\_Oramara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anize_oramara/32/206986_2.png) [@Anize\_Oramara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anize_Oramara)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2018, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-ship-suggestion-request/89191/13 "2018-07-19T08:35:04Z")
The Noctis is great for what it does. What it does isn’t really worth doing in many situations. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2018, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-ship-suggestion-request/89191/14 "2018-07-19T08:38:35Z")
I agree, the Noctis is a great Salvage ship. As for it not being worth using, that’s a matter of opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2018, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-ship-suggestion-request/89191/15 "2018-07-19T10:58:13Z")
Its a matter of definition. ---
**Author:** ![Veine\_Miromme](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veine_miromme/32/269859_2.png) [@Veine\_Miromme](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veine_Miromme)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2018, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-ship-suggestion-request/89191/16 "2018-07-19T12:41:46Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > I agree, the Noctis is a great Salvage ship. > > As for it not being worth using, that’s a matter of opinion. It has good insurance, but there can be more to consider for its worth. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-ship-suggestion-request/89191/17 "2018-07-23T14:41:39Z")
I agree as well. I fit 8 salvagers on it, and it clears the field rather quickly after setting an MTU up to pull everything in. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-ship-suggestion-request/89191/18 "2018-07-23T22:08:30Z")
I don’t use an MTU but it’s definitely something I’m considering on using. Anyway, with max skills this is my fit: Noctis High slots 5x Small Tractor Beam II (96km range) 3x Salvager II (6km range) Medium slots 1x Large Shield Extender II 1x 50MN Microwarpdrive II Low slots 3x Power Diagnostic System II (3x Expanded Cargohold II) Rig slots 1x Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II 2x Medium Salvage Tackle II Drone Bay 5x Salvage Drone I The Salvager modules are extremely quick and usually complete in one cycle. I rarely ever launch the Salvage Drones. Basically I’ll target lock 10 wrecks and activate the 5 tractors. They drag in wrecks real quick so when the wrecks get within looting range, I deselect the tractors and then reactivate them on the rest of the wrecks. Meanwhile I’ll loot all wrecks and then start salvaging. It’s a bit of a click fest but the whole process is done quickly with no time wasted on waiting. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-ship-suggestion-request/89191/19 "2018-07-23T22:37:45Z")
When I left fountain and came back to high, I started taking mtus with the raven and set them up soon as I enter a room, that way I can go back with the noctis and just vacuum everything up. Your fit is similar to mine. I think I have an AB on mine. It gets up to 600m/s I think ---
**Author:** ![Sarah\_Olson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sarah_olson/32/377582_2.png) [@Sarah\_Olson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sarah_Olson)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-ship-suggestion-request/89191/20 "2018-07-23T22:57:49Z")
Here is the Noctis I use. [Noctis, Noctis] Inertial Stabilizers II Inertial Stabilizers II Inertial Stabilizers II 50MN Microwarpdrive II Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Salvager II Salvager II Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Medium Cargohold Optimization II Medium Salvage Tackle II Salvage Drone I x5 I don’t usually carry a MTU in my mission ships, so the wrecks can be far apart when I come back to salvage/loot, hence the 6 tractor beams. I also find the Hyperspatial rig and Inertial stabs save a lot of align and travel time. My salvage process upon arriving where the wrecks are is to drop an MTU, launch Salvage drones, order the drones to salvage wrecks automatically, and start locking and tractoring in the wrecks farthest away first. I start with the farthest stuff first because the MTU will pull stuff closest, and I don’t want to compete with it. I find two salvagers to be sufficient along with salvage drones to clear wrecks faster than I can pull them, even with six tractors, especially when the wrecks are 50km+. The MTU also saves the trouble of having to open each wreck/can and loot them individually, which saves a lot of time. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mission-ship-suggestion-request/89191.md?page=2)