# Missions not updated for Ore redistribution! **URL:** \ **Category:** Missions\ **Tags:** bug-reporting\ **Created:** [October 30, 2020, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/missions-not-updated-for-ore-redistribution/276985 "2020-10-30T14:35:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/missions-not-updated-for-ore-redistribution/276985/21 "2020-10-30T18:20:25Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > Obviously, to fix the issue, they would have to go into this specific mission and change things, and that’s very difficult to do. No, it is not. There are already missions which only want Veldspar from you. All you have to do is change the Omber to Veldspar for a handful of missions. You said yourself earlier that it is just a few missions. It is not hard to do that. > [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > Second, you are making a massive assumption by claiming that they used the existing mission system to make new missions. It is not assumptions, it is proven. CCP talked about that when they introduced these new L2 missions. They talked about how they had to look deeply into their tools and figure them out again because they had abandoned them for years for no good reason, but in pursuit of garbage PVE attempts. > [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > I don’t believe it is. You don’t believe in many things, and your believes are always prove wrong. Please, for your own good, never again accuse me of “not having an idea”. > [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > This is an old mission, the examples you gave are of different, newer content made through different methods, as I understand it. To make my point clearer for you and update your “understanding” [emphasis by me]: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/fgbzvm/patch\_notes\_for\_march\_2020\_release/fk4an81/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/fgbzvm/patch_notes_for_march_2020_release/fk4an81/) > Hey! These three missions were actually created as part of a project to test our _ **existing content authoring tools** _ to see in which way we could potentially improve them in the future. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/missions-not-updated-for-ore-redistribution/276985/22 "2020-10-30T18:22:03Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > decline that mission A storyline mission? ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/3/93b6af4e455c42916f9016149422706697c67729.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/missions-not-updated-for-ore-redistribution/276985/23 "2020-10-30T18:24:37Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > A storyline mission? ■■■■, I missed that part. Well, I will still pass this on, but don’t get your hopes up that it gets fixed. ---
**Author:** ![Lis\_Torin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lis_torin/32/204820_2.png) [@Lis\_Torin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lis_Torin)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/missions-not-updated-for-ore-redistribution/276985/24 "2020-10-30T18:39:13Z")
Same goes for Kernite. bunch of storyline missions require it. But, nothing stops people from getting venture and jump to lowsec. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/missions-not-updated-for-ore-redistribution/276985/25 "2020-10-30T19:09:09Z")
say…wasn’t Hilmar the lead programmer guy or some such during EvE initial development back in the day? mmm purple donuts and spaghetti code! yum! ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/missions-not-updated-for-ore-redistribution/276985/26 "2020-10-30T19:11:27Z")
> [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#): > > No, it is not. There are already missions which only want Veldspar from you. All you have to do is change the Omber to Veldspar for a handful of missions. You said yourself earlier that it is just a few missions. It is not hard to do that. You have no idea whether it’s hard to do or not. You’re assuming it’s not hard to do. My understanding from talking to the team that does this stuff is that they do not want to touch missions in any way. > [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#): > > It is not assumptions, it is proven. CCP talked about that when they introduced these new L2 missions. They talked about how they had to look deeply into their tools and figure them out again because they had abandoned them for years for no good reason, but in pursuit of garbage PVE attempts. We have had multiple meetings with the team working on these issues and this is not my understanding based on what they told us. > [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#): > > Hey! These three missions were actually created as part of a project to test our _ **existing content authoring tools** _ to see in which way we could potentially improve them in the future. The original missions in the game were not created with the existing content authoring tools. That’s the point. The original missions were done by hand, not with the tools they use now to create things like incursions. As I said before, you are making assumptions and misreading things. You don’t know what you’re talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/missions-not-updated-for-ore-redistribution/276985/27 "2020-10-30T19:30:24Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > My understanding from talking to the team that does this stuff is that they do not want to touch missions in any way. Then maybe the team should be switched out with people who do not shy away from challenges and rediscovery of the old. After all, discovery is a big part of EVE. CCP said years ago that they wanted to do something to missions to bring them into the modern age. Nothing has happened since but we got this invasion crap instead. > [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > The original missions in the game were not created with the existing content authoring tools. Then someone should look into it. It cannot be that hard to find the id for Omber in lines of code and change it to the ID of Veldspar. All I hear are excuses for being lazy and afraid of old systems, all the while CCP expects _US_ to waste more and more of our time in their creations in unsatisfying and frustrating features. ---
**Author:** ![Lis\_Torin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lis_torin/32/204820_2.png) [@Lis\_Torin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lis_Torin)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/missions-not-updated-for-ore-redistribution/276985/28 "2020-10-30T19:46:05Z")
It was said before. The idea was to replace missions with new code (used in trig content for example). But they wanted to test everything first (in invasion). This was said at last vegas or other meeting. With old code being replaced all over EVE, time will also come for missions. But just because there are more important things to do (and with possible more revenue) doesn’t mean that they are forgotten. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/missions-not-updated-for-ore-redistribution/276985/29 "2020-10-30T19:46:21Z")
> [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#): > > Then maybe the team should be switched out with people who do not shy away from challenges and rediscovery of the old. /eyeroll > [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#): > > All I hear are excuses for being lazy and afraid of old systems, all the while CCP expects _US_ to waste more and more of our time in their creations in unsatisfying and frustrating features. I fully expect there will be solutions to this in the future, just not immediately. ---
**Author:** ![Buggs\_LeRoach](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buggs_leroach/32/376676_2.png) [@Buggs\_LeRoach](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buggs_LeRoach)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/missions-not-updated-for-ore-redistribution/276985/30 "2020-10-30T19:50:16Z")
what’s changed ? buy the ore off the market . haul it to the agent station . get the standings boost and sell the implant . profit . ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/missions-not-updated-for-ore-redistribution/276985/31 "2020-10-30T19:59:18Z")
but…I would really like to blame Hilmar for things…dang… ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/missions-not-updated-for-ore-redistribution/276985/32 "2020-10-30T20:08:17Z")
He is responsible for the Triglavian invasion. How much blame can one person carry? ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/missions-not-updated-for-ore-redistribution/276985/33 "2020-10-30T20:23:00Z")
> [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#): > > Then maybe the team should be switched out with people who do not shy away from challenges and rediscovery of the old. Seems like you have no idea what it would actually cost. “There is a issue with the subway : let’s just remove the team that is working on the busway and replace it with a team of people who would not mind exploding all the buildings just to test if they can do other things”. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/missions-not-updated-for-ore-redistribution/276985/34 "2020-10-30T20:25:45Z")
“Why do all my rocket scientists keep telling me that a manned trip to Mars would be so difficult? What we need is a new team - one that doesn’t shy away from challenges!” ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/missions-not-updated-for-ore-redistribution/276985/35 "2020-10-31T00:04:11Z")
When it comes to the kernite version of “materials for war” I’ve always just bought the kernite since the implant was worth m_ore_ than the kernite in terms of selling… and since those are basic or whatever the L4’s give out, I never used them anyway and just sold them… considering CCP wants people going into Low, they could also edit these missions to show that you’ll need to go to lowsec to mine the ore… ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/missions-not-updated-for-ore-redistribution/276985/36 "2020-10-31T01:39:00Z")
If @Brisc_Rubal can’t honor his promise to fix the red dots, what makes you think he’ll address missions? Though to be fair I think @Mike_Azariah said he’ll look into making drop-in replacements of the required ores with sec-appropriate ones and/or increasing standing gains to make the missions more worth the inconvenience/risk/higher cost of getting those ores? Always trust Mike to get done what Brisc won’t 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/missions-not-updated-for-ore-redistribution/276985/37 "2020-10-31T01:57:39Z")
Including publishing blue donut null manifestos? ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/missions-not-updated-for-ore-redistribution/276985/38 "2020-10-31T03:31:00Z")
We da best, the rest of you nubs suck. Give up while you still can or face our awesome wrath. there m ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 3:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/missions-not-updated-for-ore-redistribution/276985/39 "2020-10-31T03:37:03Z")
👍 It hardly matters though - CCP only wants CSM input on unimportant things. ---
**Author:** ![Giddy\_McFee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/giddy_mcfee/32/375711_2.png) [@Giddy\_McFee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Giddy_McFee)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/missions-not-updated-for-ore-redistribution/276985/40 "2020-10-31T07:43:35Z")
Could they not just replace the ore needed for one that does now appear in high sec, Surely that isnt beyond them? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/missions-not-updated-for-ore-redistribution/276985.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/missions-not-updated-for-ore-redistribution/276985.md?page=3)